Call me an illegal guest!

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Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests.


Let's say I'm a nice man (from somewhere else) who breaks into your house. Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've mowed your lawn and washed the windows and cleaned up after your dog and swept the basement; I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).


According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add me to your family's insurance plan, educate my kids, and provide other
benefits to me and to my family (my wife will do the work because she too is hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).
If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.


It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest, um, Except for well---- you know.


And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being an anti-housebreaker. Oh yeah, and I want you to learn my language so you can communicate with me.


Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! Only in America....
 
It's not about being an illegal guest!

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It's not about being an illegal guest!

Greed is at the root of it all.

Much of it stems from the manufacturing industry. They leave the USA, go into other countries and pay slave labor wages.

It's about Rich people paying less wages for hard working people.

On the microscopic view of this matter, well.... If you can afford to pay a maid or a gardener full time.... well, I say you are rich! but the huge problem really stems from a corporate level!

Why can't the Mexican's build up their own country? It's obvious, the Industry has total control over the blue collar worker. As long as people are dependant on big business, they are going to be at their mercy! I go to the department stores around town and see clothing made in mexico, plenty of American companies have moved to Mexico taking jobs away from America. Not to forget there are plenty of items made in India, Pakistan, Japan, China. All jobs that Americans used to do. The textile industry has pretty much left America! Factories closing by the thousands to leave to other countries. Now it's the Auto industry closings all across the United States! America is selling itself out!

The economy is just too screwed up. If it keeps going the way it has been, plenty enough Americans will be just as poor and job hungry as the Mexicans that are leaving Mexico looking for work over here in America.

It's all about the greedy Manufacturing Companies robbing the poor to get richer and don't think the government isn't backing them up! :x

The Mexicans come over here to only find themselves in a different class of poverty, compared to what they had in Mexico. They may be better off in some perspectives, but they still find themselves in a state of poverty by having to work under the table.

Every country has it's poverty. It's just that the American type poverty is still better than the poverty people have to face in Mexico, or India, or China, or Africa and other countries being oppressed by their own governments!

Is America selling itself out?

Read comments made on the capoliticalnews.com forum about Ford outsourcing from Mexico. post # 10737 - Posted by Melissa on 2006-09-01 07:53:36
http://www.capoliticalnews.com/discuss.php?id=622


Read this article August 5, 2005 by Pastor Chuck Baldwin about
CAFTA: HOW ELECTED OFFICIALS BETRAYED AMERICA

  • August 5, 2005 by Pastor Chuck Baldwin about
    CAFTA: HOW ELECTED OFFICIALS BETRAYED AMERICA

    Most of us are aware that Congress has passed and President Bush has signed the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) into law. CAFTA is the latest in a series of international trade agreements to which the United States has committed itself.

    Sold to Congress as promoting "free trade," international agreements such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) and now CAFTA are actually huge compromises of American sovereignty and independence for the benefit of wealthy international corporations.

    Consider that since President Bill Clinton and Senate Majority Leader Bob Dole collaborated to pass NAFTA, nearly 400 manufacturing plants have been closed, tens of thousands of American jobs have been exported overseas, and the American people are now strapped with a gargantuan federal trade deficit. But that is just the beginning!

    NAFTA and CAFTA are precursors for an even more egregious "trade agreement" called The Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). FTAA would, in effect, all but erase our national borders, establish a European Union (EU)-style international government, and even pave the way for a multinational currency.

    Adding insult to injury is the fact that many of the mostly Republican members of the House of Representatives who voted for CAFTA knew they were defying the will of the majority of their constituents and were passing legislation dangerous to America's very security. ...

    ... a sellout of American control over our own trade regulations."

    There you have it. President Bush, Republican Congressional leaders, and lobbyists for multinational corporations harangued, coerced, and bullied members of Congress into passing a trade bill that compromises American independence and punishes American workers and farmers. Beyond that, they used 50 billion taxpayer dollars to do it! This isn't representative government; it is politics at its worst! ...

    Read the rest of the article here:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin250.htm


Read this article on the Selling out of America.

  • THE "SELLING OUT" OF AMERICA

    Deanna Spingola
    August 5, 2005
    NewsWithViews.com

    Building a north American Community

    While our sons, daughters, sisters, brothers, mothers and fathers having been spilling their blood in the sands of Iraq under the guise of restoring the country to the Iraqi citizens, our president is in the process of giving our country to the elite One World Order insiders. While our president is requiring protected borders in Iraq, he is obliterating, not only our southern, but our northern borders.

    The leaders of three countries met at Baylor University in Waco, Texas on 23 March 2005. This meeting included George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin. There were no security cameras or media coverage on this event, so-called conservative or liberal. These three “wanna be†dictators established the “Security and Prosperity Partnership of North Americaâ€Â.

    See the announcement of the results of this “three amigos†meeting. So, who notified the Council for their expert socialistic input. Some of our senators have also jumped on the “Give America Away†bandwagon by writing surreptitious supportive bills. It appears that the only people left out of the loop are the American people.

    Read the rest of this article here:
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna9.htm

Related Articles:

The Official CAFTA Vote Story
http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/update07.29.05.htm

Dear Congressman, About Your CAFTA Vote...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spivey/phyllis7.htm

CAFTA: How Elected Officials Betrayed America
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin250.htm


Personal Responsibility & Conscience
http://www.newswithviews.com/public_comm/public_commentary21.htm

Welcome to America, All Trespassers Will be Rewarded
http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deanna3.htm


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If things keep going the way they are... It's the americans who will be the one's wanting to leave America in search of jobs in other countries!
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By the way LittleNipper,

There is nothing humorous about your OP. :cry:

I don't know why you would even think of placing a topic such as this in the Humor Forum. :-?




Read about the things we need deem as worthy and extremely important.
Not to be looked upon as humorous sarcasm.

Yes, I do see your point! But it is in no way humorous. :(

America is in a crisis situation, at the brink of demise if people don't get off of their lazy do nothing about it attitudes. People need to be woken up to the stark reality of what is going on at the root of the matter!


Also, read from thread:
"When Wisdom Becomes Worthless"
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24697


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Relic said:
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By the way LittleNipper,

There is nothing humorous about your OP. :cry:

I don't know why you would even think of placing a topic such as this in the Humor Forum. :-?




Read about the things we need deem as worthy and extremely important.
Not to be looked upon as humorous sarcasm.

Yes, I do see your point! But it is in no way humorous. :(

America is in a crisis situation, at the brink of demise if people don't get off of their lazy do nothing about it attitudes. People need to be woken up to the stark reality of what is going on at the root of the matter!


Also, read from thread:
"When Wisdom Becomes Worthless"
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=24697


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Most jokes are a way of sighing at society's ills. As for you, you might be simply a "relic" of the past... The world isn't held together by America nor your opinions, but by the hand of GOD. These are clearly the last days (or at least a lot later then they were). If you are prepared then you have nothing to worry about with concern for yourself.. If you are fearful, then likely you may have something to worry about.... As for my sarcasm, lighten up, you'll live longer.... The truth is never a pleasant pill to swallow, especially, when one is the butt of the joke.....
 
Still not funny! This is no joking matter ;-(

LittleNipper said:
Most jokes are a way of sighing at society's ills. As for you, you might be simply a "relic" of the past... The world isn't held together by America nor your opinions, but by the hand of GOD. These are clearly the last days (or at least a lot later then they were). If you are prepared then you have nothing to worry about with concern for yourself.. If you are fearful, then likely you may have something to worry about.... As for my sarcasm, lighten up, you'll live longer.... The truth is never a pleasant pill to swallow, especially, when one is the butt of the joke.....

Don't tell me to lighten up! You need to gain some empathy for those poor desperate people who are a part of this horrible situation. You are wrong, No, most jokes are NOT a way of sighing at society's ills. And you need to apologize to those people who are so desperate they have no other recourse but to leave their families behind for months at a time in order to send money back home so they can feed them! Yes, some are not so honorable, and some are so despondent they have fallen into addiction to drugs and alcohol. That is no laughing matter! It is a very very sad state of affairs.

Your personal attack on me serves you no good. And the world isn't held together by your sick jokes either. That kind of sick sarcasm is never funny. And your self justification doesn't make it okay to make sick jokes about a people who are so desperate and poor that they have search in another country for work! :( There is nothing funny about the types of jobs they do for others and the living situations many of them are in! Many of them are living in one room filthy shacks because they don't get enough money to survive or to send back home to feed their children! Many of them come here and get stuck in some catch 22 that doesn't allow them to progress in any way but only keeps them as a slave laborer! :cry: And you dare make fun of these people and compare them to someone who breaks into a house and takes up residence? :o :( Sick, that's just too sick! :-?

Also, Being prepared on a personal level does not mean doing nothing when it comes to helping those who are not prepared to know the salvation of Christ Jesus. Being prepared does not mean doing nothing for the betterment of mankind. Being prepared means to pitch in and help make the world a better place to live in, by spreading the goodnews gospel ( a gospel that teaches people how to be freed from bondage, how to be freed from sin and how to become a people who are committed to obeying the Holy Word which leads them OUT OF SIN into a prosperous way of life here on earth by way of the HOLY Spirit indwelling in them. That Holy Spirit being of that Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus. Just what do you think it's all about? some imaginary magical mystical fairy tale? :-? It's a real way of life! The harvest is plenty the laborers are few! Sad, you didn't get that point yet. Maybe you will soon, I hope so. We are missianaries for Christ, are we not? :-? So then, why do you mock such poor desperate people? Yes, it angers me that they are bringing diseases here and no one is taking precautions to stop it! Yes it angers me that they are living here illegally and no one is doing much about it. But there is HOPE and we must all work and lobby to get something done about it! So don't make sick jokes about them.

Making sick crude jokes does not serve as a good example for Christ. One can be funny without having to make sick sarcastic jokes about people who are suffering because of rich greedy people and corporations oppressing them by using them as slave laborers.

No if's, I am not living in fear. I have no fear of what man can do to me. However, I do have respect and fear of the Lord God. The fear of the Lord also means to respect Him. Making sick jokes so as to compare people who are desperate to make a living to a criminal who breaks into your house is not funny. Are you one of those spoiled brats who is so young and/or immature born with a silver spoon in their mouth who has no idea what it's like be so poor and desperate in life? Mock not the poor! How twisted and sick is that? :-?


There is a solution to help those people. The Mexican government needs to get it's act together and Americans need to stop putting down those people. Yes, many of them come here harboring diseases like tuberculosis and many of them are living here working under the table while they are taking advantage of our emergency room services while hospitals are being closed because of having to go bankrupt. Yes something needs to be done about that desperate situation! No doubt about it! But there is HOPE and there is a way to make it better. Whether you know it or not, All Christians are to not just sit back and watch all hell break loose! Faith without works is dead! We all need to get involved more closely with what's going on in the government. We all need to be more active in keeping up with and protestings against bills that are outrageous in their content. Our government has become corrupt because of the lack of citizens being alert to what is going on. In other words there are far too many slackard people out there, who do nothing to make any changes in our society! Making sick sarcasm about a desperate poor people is NOT FUNNY!

You need to apologize to all the people who are involved with helping thes people and who understand the nature of the problem and stop comparing these desperate poor people to someone who breaks into a house and acts like a servant who expects something in return. You have no idea of what humility these people are going through, having to leave their own country in search of a means of supporting their families!



Your carefree attitude serves no one well! We believe, yes and we have faith, but don't you realize, faith is the substance of the things hoped for and that faith without works is dead! You can't expect a harvest if you don't labor in the field! Being prepared doesn't mean we don't do anything!

James 2: 14-26

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.



This is no joking matter! Stop making sick jokes and get involved for a good cause about the matter. What good can be done for the betterment of all? Instead of making sick jokes about these people, be a participant in helping to cure the problem, and work towards it! Sick jokes just don't cut it on a Christian web site. Christians don't make fun of desperate poor people who are heart torn to leave their families for months so they can send money home to feed their children! :cry:

You have no excuse for making those twisted remarks as if it was just a joke. If you refuse to apologize well, then what does that say about your recklessness and disregard for the conditions people find themselves in.
You had better pray you never have a situation in which you are so desperate you must leave all that you love behind and venture to some strange land where they only pay you slave labor wages and not enough to send back home to your starving family! :cry: You are better off to pray for the welfare of those poor people instead of acting as if they are your enemy! Yes, not all of them are good for our society, but hey are desperate people who need help! And what do the Americans do to them? They take advantage of them and treat them like slaves! How sad is that? :-? There is nothing to joke about! Nothing!

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Proverbs 6:16-19 Has the following to say.

These six doth the LORD hate: yea, seven an abomination of HIS soul:
Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, an heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that are swift in running to mischief, a false witness speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among the brethern.

It would seem that the point or moral of my original levity was, that people who feel that illegal immigrants have the right to come into any country (for that matter) because it suits them, should be just as willing to allow such to move into their OWN HOMES and not expect other's to foot the bill. What I see are a few offended people who might be offended because the truth hurts sometimes. It is easy to allow OTHERS to deal with problems, but when they become one's own-----oh, well that's quite a different matter..... I find that the one thing that LIBERALS hate the most are MIRRORS, especially, in bright light.
Not at all flattering to their causes.
 
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