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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join Hidden in Him and For His Glory for discussions on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/become-a-vessel-of-honor-part-2.112306/
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Lots but one of the biggest is the RCCs claim to be the only true church. Add in a host of extra biblical doctrines, Assumption of Mary, purgatory, etc and you have problems.
jasoncran
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i think i will move to the the proper forum the end time or the other but i ask that this be civil as the catholics here will post.
and so did the jewish faith and that doenst mean they are right.
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I suggest you ask yourself which best adheres to the scriptures and when you've settled that your decision is made.
Fair warning: Catholics will say that strict reliance on the scriptures is unneccessary, even contrary to Gods' will.
jasoncran
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per forum rules, these catholic debate get just as ugly as the gay right debates so it was decided before i came here where they could be discussed.
yes they are some other threads that have rcc doctrines discussed but that is because of the orthodox here posting, since this is a stand alone rcc debate i moved it here.
orthodox and the rcc dont beleive in solo fide or solo scriptura that is why i let those be.
jasoncran
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romans 10:9-10
in the kjv(solo fide)
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
solo scriptura is the idea that i believe paul spoke of when he wrote this to timothy.
2 timothy 3:16
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
we look to the bible alone for what the lord wants and also correct ourselves by it and also look from verse to verse ie if its in the nt and ot says something else we must examine the bible and look at context
the catholic does this but they also look at the councils and so on.
we do this sometimes as we look at certain concepts that the bible doesnt really adress or never said dont do ,or condemns openly
slavery is one of those
in the kjv(solo fide)
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
solo scriptura is the idea that i believe paul spoke of when he wrote this to timothy.
2 timothy 3:16
16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
we look to the bible alone for what the lord wants and also correct ourselves by it and also look from verse to verse ie if its in the nt and ot says something else we must examine the bible and look at context
the catholic does this but they also look at the councils and so on.
we do this sometimes as we look at certain concepts that the bible doesnt really adress or never said dont do ,or condemns openly
slavery is one of those
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Alabaster
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What is bold about that? I don't mince words, which is a strength to some.
If you think I make religion attractive, good. I don't have a religion. I have Jesus. He is attractive, and He approves of me.
Some people need blatant. I was answering your question simply. You can discover what is right and wrong my the measuring stick of the word of God.
jasoncran
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can i ask you a favor?
tell me which bible you use and where it came from and the earlier versions of the protestant bible?
when you are done and look hard at the books in our protestant bible tell me the the man who put it to together and along with the duay-reims that also is a 'descendant' from another person with councils that looked at the books and such like.
book these men that lead theses very different bibles called their faith a what?
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Why?
jasoncran
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you will learn who put it together and also what the truth of the group that did it. and then you can see why protestants for your self are right or wrong, thus strengthening your arguments
both bibles are acceptable to the rcc btw , as if didnt notice francis seldom uses the extra books in his bible.
the bible fyi wasnt put together till centuries after johns death.
three centuries in fact, this isnt a so simple bash the rcc and walk away and think they always had it wrong or still do.
i had to look at my faith a lot closer and what i was taught and why.
since we are both on this side of the atlantic we recieved our faith by the h.s but through protestant groups who through many generations from the original calvinists or others that were most anti-catholic. we often forget what they did get right and forget that we also owe them and why we had the schizm with them.
both bibles are acceptable to the rcc btw , as if didnt notice francis seldom uses the extra books in his bible.
the bible fyi wasnt put together till centuries after johns death.
three centuries in fact, this isnt a so simple bash the rcc and walk away and think they always had it wrong or still do.
i had to look at my faith a lot closer and what i was taught and why.
since we are both on this side of the atlantic we recieved our faith by the h.s but through protestant groups who through many generations from the original calvinists or others that were most anti-catholic. we often forget what they did get right and forget that we also owe them and why we had the schizm with them.
