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Christian Rap? Is there such thing?

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Within my church choir we often disuss secular music and its effects on the world etc. I enjoy listening to christian rap music my artist like Canton Jones, but is it good or ad to listen to christian rap. I understand if u take a beat from a jay z song and add a bible verse to it--of course it wouldnt seem kosher! but if an artist like canton jones writes his music based on places God has taken him, is it necessarily bad to listen to that type of music? Isnt God still being glorified?
 
I believe God can be glorified through any type of music, just as man can be glorified through any type of music. It's the lyrics and intent that should matter.

I'm personally not a big fan of rap, but I LOVE Lecrae. Such awesome and bold Christian lyrics in a genre that desperatly needs them. :thumb
 
Yeah, im not really a big fan of rap music but i realy enjoy how these young men use their experiences with God to write nice music, and glorify God at the same time. My sister made me listen to Canton Jones Kingdom Buisness 2 album, one time and i fell in love with it.


Nick said:
I believe God can be glorified through any type of music, just as man can be glorified through any type of music. It's the lyrics and intent that should matter.

I'm personally not a big fan of rap, but I LOVE Lecrae. Such awesome and bold Christian lyrics in a genre that desperatly needs them. :thumb
 
Rap is given a bad name, but it is not in of itself bad. Christian rap is no different than Christian rock or any other music with Christian themes.
 
I reckon. Check out these Lecrae lyrics to Don't Waste Your Life:


[Hook: Cam]
Don't wanna waste my life

[Verse 1: LeCrae]
I know a lot of people out there scared they gone die
Couple of em thinking they'll be livin in the sky
But while I'm here livin man I gotta ask why, what am here fo I gotta figure out
Waste my life
No I gotta make it count
If Christ is real then what am I gone do about
All of the things in Luke 12:15 down to 21
You really oughta go and check it out
Paul said if Christ ain't resurrect then we wasted our lives
Well that implies that our life's built around Jesus being alive
Everyday I'm living tryin show the world why
Christ is more than everything you'll ever try
Better than pretty women and sinning and living to get a minute of any women and men that you admire
Ain't no lie

We created for Him
Outta the dust he made us for Him
Elects us and he saves us for Him
Jesus comes and raises for Him
Magnify the Father why bother with something lesser
He made us so we could bless Him and to the world we confess him
Resurrects him
So I know I got life
Matter fact better man I know I got Christ
If you don't' see His ways in my days and nights
You can hit my brakes you can stop my lights
Man I lost my rights
I lost my life
Forget the money cars and toss that ice
The cost is Christ
And they could never offer me anything on the planet that'll cost that price.

[Verse 2: Dwayne Tryumph]
Armed and dangerous
So the devil jus can't handle us
Christian youth them a stand wid us
Livin' n driven
Given a vision
Fullfillin the commission he handed us
London to Los Angeles
Da rap evangelist
Ma daddy wouldn't abandon us
"I gotta back pack fulla tracts plus I keep a Johnny Mac"
So are you ready to jam with us
So let's go, gimme the word an let's go
Persecution let's go
Tribulation let's go
Across the nation let's go
Procrastination bes go
Hung on the cross in the cold
Died for da young and the old
Can't say you never know
Heaven knows
How many souls are going to hell or to heaven so we gotta go in and get em
Whaaaaat!

[Verse 3: LeCrae]
Suffer
Yeah do it for Christ if you trying to figure what to do with your life
If you making money hope you doing it right because the money is Gods you better steward it right
Stay focused if you ain't got no ride
Your life ain't wrapped up in what you drive
The clothes you wear the job you work
The color your skin naw we Christian first
People living life for a job
Make a lil money start living for a car
Get em a house a wife kids and a dog
When they retire they living high on the hog
But guess what they didn't ever really live at all
To live is Christ yeah that's Paul I recall
To die is gain so for Christ we give it all
He's the treasure you'll find in the mall
Your money your singleness marriage talent and time
They were loaned to you to show the world that Christ is Divine
That's why it's Christ in my rhymes
That's why it's Christ all the time
My whole world is built around him He's the life in my lines
I refused to waste my life
He's too true ta chase
That ice
Heres my gifts and time cause I'm constantly trying to be used to praise the Christ
If he's truly raised to life
Then this news should change your life
And by his grace you can put your faith in place that rules your days and nights.
 
Within my church choir we often disuss secular music and its effects on the world etc. I enjoy listening to christian rap music my artist like Canton Jones, but is it good or ad to listen to christian rap. I understand if u take a beat from a jay z song and add a bible verse to it--of course it wouldnt seem kosher! but if an artist like canton jones writes his music based on places God has taken him, is it necessarily bad to listen to that type of music? Isnt God still being glorified?




Who decided or why would rap, let alone Christian rap, be considered 'bad' - as in the worst above all other musical forms - in the first place?

Oh - I can think of one reason ... :bigfrown ...
 
Some people here have mentioned "rap music" and others have compared rap to "other types of music". I hate to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but rap isn't music. Here's the dictionary definition of "music"
  1. an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color.
  2. the tones or sounds employed, occurring in single line (melody) or multiple lines (harmony), and sounded or to be sounded by one or more voices or instruments, or both.
  3. musical work or compositions for singing or playing.
  4. the written or printed score of a musical composition.
  5. such scores collectively.
  6. any sweet, pleasing, or harmonious sounds or sound: the music of the waves.
  7. appreciation of or responsiveness to musical sounds or harmonies: Music was in his very soul.
Sorry, but rap doesn't fit any of those, (espically definition 6). :shrug

That being said, rap doesn't have to be bad. If the words glorify the Lord, then I can't see that it's any worse than any other Christian poetry (which is what rap is - a type of poetry that is read in a specific way). If you enjoy listening to it (which I don't, as you might already have guessed), then go ahead and listen and don't let anyone tell you that rap is somehow in and of itself bad.
 
rap IS music ... never found myself dancing to just words or poetry before ...
 
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Some people here have mentioned "rap music" and others have compared rap to "other types of music". I hate to sound like an old fuddy-duddy, but rap isn't music. Here's the dictionary definition of "music"
  1. an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color.
  2. the tones or sounds employed, occurring in single line (melody) or multiple lines (harmony), and sounded or to be sounded by one or more voices or instruments, or both.
  3. musical work or compositions for singing or playing.
  4. the written or printed score of a musical composition.
  5. such scores collectively.
  6. any sweet, pleasing, or harmonious sounds or sound: the music of the waves.
  7. appreciation of or responsiveness to musical sounds or harmonies: Music was in his very soul.
Sorry, but rap doesn't fit any of those, (espically definition 6). :shrug

That being said, rap doesn't have to be bad. If the words glorify the Lord, then I can't see that it's any worse than any other Christian poetry (which is what rap is - a type of poetry that is read in a specific way). If you enjoy listening to it (which I don't, as you might already have guessed), then go ahead and listen and don't let anyone tell you that rap is somehow in and of itself bad.


Rap is music...you seem to be a hater...

My music fits definitions 1&2...so there...you fail
 
Sure there is. We had a Local "Rap Group" (42nd Generation) at our last Block party down at DeSoto AoG. It was a guy and a gal, and they blended beautifully with a canned rhythm track, and gave STRONG testimony and Bible witness for about 45 minutes.

VERY impressive.
 
[video=youtube;cEPFdhvDpsI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEPFdhvDpsI[/video]

Lyrics to Oh Wretched Man :
[Chorus]
Oh wretched man- the problem ain't that we rock Timbs
That I am- the problem is we've got sin
Who shall deliver me?- even with a new start
From this body of death?- we need to be freed, we need a new heart

Oh wretched man- the problem is not just behavior
That I am- the problem is there's rot in your nature
Who will deliver me- even with a new start
Our Lord- we need to be freed, we need a new heart

[Verse One]
We're in a hip-hop era full of hip-hop errors
Not just the block but the heart's what hip-hop mirrors
Somebody told me that we're not naughty
I objected and directed their attention to the Top 40
We stopped at the top ten; looked how we propped sin
The case was closed when the videos were dropped in
From naked females to dirty sex in emails
It affects from retail down to the street sales- every detail
You can leave the heart unsupervised
Watch the heart ask for sin and ask the cashier to please super-size
Read Romans and peep your corners for bonus
Were gonna be wrong as long as were breathing- we need a Jonah

[Chorus]

[Verse Two]
I serve word cause it's what the suburbs and the hood needs
Wreckin' the thought that heaven's earned by your goods deeds
I'm mad precise when it's the after-life
You bank on good deeds but you can't think this "dis-counts" like half the price
Sin is genetic it's
The reason your appetite for it is husky like that school up in Connecticut
Check the Bible for a honest diagnosis
Or just smell cause you can tell like chronic halitosis
We all sin- you know we each are prone
If only humans were affected then to each his own
But God sees it and it's reached his throne
In him there's no sin
Like there's no such thing as pizza bones
The spiritual truth- we have no spiritual loot
We're bankrupt and we have bad spiritual root
Every day we grow bad spiritual fruit
We need God to hold back that spiritual boot

[Chorus]

[Verse Three]
Whenever God is ready he can break down a sinner
Take down a sinner, like I take a steak down for dinner
The job of God the Spirit is to pull
A person to Christ
It's like it's irresistible
He makes Christ known
Your eyes light up like when the break light's on
There's a change- "I've grown"
I know it happened to me; I met the Surgeon
He changed my heart, there went the blunts and the cursin'
Kept on workin', for certain He keeps purgin'
Now instead bourbon, I'm fervently reading Spurgeon
That blow God handed me
Put me on hand and knee
Brought a kid that's caramel low like Anthony
Now can it be? Got me in His family
Reppin' the kingdom of God, droppin' Him on the industry
This is the truth, I pray you can catch it fam'
Jesus Christ can give life to a wretched man

[Chorus]
 
good christian rap groups are:
the crossmovment
falme
grits
john rebuen
kj fivet two
dc talk older stuff
toby mac
la symphney
pigeon john
da turth
goespl gangtazs
know da verbs or know as verbs
lecare
pettdee
Palydoug
deep space five just found out aboutthem.


rock / rap bands;
thosuandfoot krutch
manafest
p.o.d.
Pax 217
Pillar fire proof
 

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