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Christian Science

Is Christian Science a

  • Legitimate Christian denomination

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  • Another Gospel

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Want so good information on Christian Science check out the link below:

Christian Science

The link above is to carm.org and there exploration into Christian Science.
 
Nocturnal_Principal_X said:
Want so good information on Christian Science check out the link below:

Christian Science

The link above is to carm.org and there exploration into Christian Science.
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I wanted to post that link, but the page wouldn't load for me. So I assumed the server was down. :-?
 
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Founder and false prophetess of Christian Science.
 
Ok, that's a start. Lets look at Mary Baker Eddy from the Christian Science website...

Mary Baker Eddy

Mary Baker Eddy is Discoverer and Founder of Christian Science and author of its foundational text, Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures.

Throughout her youth and early adulthood, Mary Baker Eddy faced poor health and financial and emotional hardship. She overcame these challenges to become one of the most prominent individuals of her day. Toward the end of her life, Human Life magazine described her as “the most famous, interesting and powerful woman in America, if not in the world, today.â€Â

She continues to be regarded as one of history’s more remarkable figures. Today, her primary work, Science and Health, engages readers around the world.

• Discoverer and Founder of Christian Science
• Healer and pioneer of a reliable, widely practiced system of prayer-based healing
• Author of a groundbreaking book on spirituality and healing, Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures, which has sold over 10 million copies to date
• President and founder of a teaching college, the Massachusetts Metaphysical College, which continues to prepare teachers of Christian Science
• Founder of a publishing house whose products include numerous books, weekly and monthly magazines, a foreign language magazine, and a Bible daily self-study guide
• Founder and publisher of a Pulitzer Prize-winning newspaper, The Christian Science Monitor
• Leader of a worldwide church, The First Church of Christ, Scientist, and its branches in 80 countries

Significant Milestones

1866
Mary Baker Eddy discovered Christian Science

1875: Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures
first published by Eddy

1879
Eddy established The First Church of Christ, Scientist. As the number of readers of Science and Health grew, Eddy established a Church organization to communicate the ideas in Science and Health for humanity’s benefit.

1908
Eddy founded The Christian Science Monitor, a renowned international daily newspaper available in print and on the Internet

Recent Recognitions Include

• 1995: Eddy was elected to the National Women’s Hall of Fame for leaving “an indelible mark on society, religion and journalism.â€Â
• 1998: Eddy was named by Religion & Ethics Newsweekly one of the 25 “most significant religious figures for Americans in the 20th Century.â€Â
• 2002: the Congress of the United States recognized both Eddy for her outstanding achievements and contributions, and The Mary Baker Eddy Library for the Betterment of Humanity.

©2004 The First Church of Christ, Scientist
 
An excerpt from..."Christian Science
Christian or Cult?"
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/science.htm

The movement known as Christian Science is a religion "emphasizing divine healing as practiced by Jesus Christ." It is officially known as The Church of Christ, Scientist (CCS) (with headquarters in Boston, Massachusetts), founded in 1879 by the much married Mary Baker Glover Patterson Eddy (1821-1910). It is one of the more sophisticated modern cults, attracting many intellectuals. Estimated membership was about 350,000 in the 1930s with approximately 2,500 branch churches, societies, and college organizations in more than 50 countries worldwide. Estimates suggest that membership has fallen to well under 100,000 at the present time. While the branches are democratic in government, they all conform to the rules laid down in Mary Baker Eddy's Manual of The Mother Church (1895); church affairs are now overseen by a self-perpetuating board of five people....

...Mrs. Eddy was chronically sick growing up, with many ailments including paralysis, hysteria, seizures and convulsions. At 22, she married her first of three husbands, George Glover, who died within 6 months from yellow fever. Following Glover's death, she began to be involved in mesmerism (hypnosis) and the occult practices of spiritualism and clairvoyance (Ruth Tucker, Another Gospel, p. 152). Still ill, she married Daniel Patterson in 1853, a dentist and homeopathic practitioner. It was during this time she met mental healer Phineas P. Quimby (1802-1866), whose influence would shape her belief of Christian Science. Quimby believed that illness and disease could be cured through positive thoughts and healthy attitudes, by changing one's beliefs about the illness. She claimed that Quimby cured her; she suddenly improved, but later the symptoms returned (Another Gospel, p. 155)...

(note from me..the book, "Another Gospel", is a good book to read. Rather unbiased, it deals mainly with facts that are readily available and mostly indisputable)

...After Quimby's death in 1866, Mrs. Eddy determined to carry on his work. She had developed a "psychic dependence" on Quimby, drawing on his spiritual presence, claiming even visitations by his apparition. Eddy "reached the scientific certainty that all causation rests with the Mind, and that every effect is a mental phenomena." Eddy took Quimby's teachings one step further, claiming that sickness, death, and even our physical bodies do not exist, but are only imagined. Based on this absurdity, Mary Baker Eddy formulated her unique interpretations of Scripture upon which Christian Science was founded (and recorded in Eddy's 1875 book, Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures....

...The event that Mrs. Eddy claimed as the inauguration of Christian Science occurred in February of 1866. She claimed to have had a near fatal fall on icy pavement, but was instantly healed when "the healing Truth dawned upon my senses," and the divine healing ministry was born (Miscellaneous Writings, p. 24; Science and Health, p. 107). Testimony from her attending physician as well as other correspondence from Mrs. Eddy at the time strongly dispute Mrs. Eddy's "official" version of those events (Anthony Hoekema, Christian Science, pp. 12-13).

Healing became a major distinctive of Christian Science. According to Eddy Baker, the central fact of the Bible is the superiority of spiritual over physical power. The spiritual superiority is evident in other ways than healing. Telepathy is practiced in Christian Science treatment, and may be considered a form of psychic healing. Christian Science claims to prove through the healing of disease and other difficulties that the understanding of God and his spiritual creation is as effective now as it was in Jesus' time. Its adherents, therefore, rely on "divine law" in times of sickness instead of resorting to medical and other material means. Christian Scientists do not use doctors, medicine, or immunizations. Christian Science Practitioners are used to " help people through the false reality of illness." Instead, proper prayer and training are employed to battle the "non-reality" of illness. (The right of Christian Science parents to withhold medical treatment from their children has many times been challenged in court.)
more at link above.


Which brings us back to Quath's thread here...
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=11543
 
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PHINEAS P. QUIMBY

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PHINEAS T BARNUM

"There is one born every minute!"
 
The correct quote would be, "There's a sucker born every minute." But it wasn't P.T. Barnum that said it; It was a banker by the name of David Hannum.

Anyway...is anybody bothered or even interested in this Christian Science stuff? :-?
 
Nah that was me. I figure if you say you follow Jesus Christ, I consider you a Christian. I do consider it far from mainstream Christianity, but not far enough to say it is not legitimate Christianity.

I usually draw my line in the same for being a legit Christian denomination when someone tries to link Jesus to other pagan figures.

Quath
 
Quath said:
Nah that was me. I figure if you say you follow Jesus Christ, I consider you a Christian. I do consider it far from mainstream Christianity, but not far enough to say it is not legitimate Christianity....
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Telepathy is practiced in Christian Science treatment, and may be considered a form of psychic healing.
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Is this something that Jesus taught?
 
Quath said:
Nah that was me. I figure if you say you follow Jesus Christ, I consider you a Christian. I do consider it far from mainstream Christianity, but not far enough to say it is not legitimate Christianity.

I usually draw my line in the same for being a legit Christian denomination when someone tries to link Jesus to other pagan figures.

Quath
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Interesting...do you think the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons are Christian?
 
Well... but I think the crux of the issue has to be on what saves us. There are a lot of Christians, who believe Jesus saves us, that also believe some stuff that is kinda out there. I may not agree with those beliefs, but if they see Jesus as Saviour, I'd say they were still Christian, however weird or misguided they may be.

But, and its a weird phenomenon, but some people who follow Jesus' teachings also believe we are 'saved' by something else. That's where I draw line.

When Paul accused the Galatians of following 'another gospel that was really no gospel at all' it was because they had a problematic view of who or what 'saves'. If it had been a different, and more minor issue, I don't think Paul would have been so harsh. The true 'gospel' is that Jesus saves. They were following a 'false gospel' by saying that keeping the OT law saves. Gnosticism followed a 'false gospel' by saying that knowledge saves. The list could go on. These things may have their place. But they are not, in and of themselves, 'Saviour'. That's Jesus. He saves. That's the gospel.
 
It is neither Christian, nor Science!

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
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Vic said:
Telepathy is practiced in Christian Science treatment, and may be considered a form of psychic healing.
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Is this something that Jesus taught?
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Well, that may look at it as Jesus didn't mention everything possible.

Nocturnal_Principal_X said:
Interesting...do you think the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons are Christian?
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Yeah. They follow the New Testament. They may have some interesting additions, but they basically believe in the same Jesus as the Christians here. They just believe in a slightly different personality or dogma.

Quath
 
Nocturnal_Principal_X wrote:
Interesting...do you think the Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons are Christian?

Yeah. They follow the New Testament. They may have some interesting additions, but they basically believe in the same Jesus as the Christians here. They just believe in a slightly different personality or dogma.
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The Jesus I believe in was not born of an Eternal virgin that never sinned.
The jesus I believe in was God Incarnate, not a crated being that god used to create everything else.
The Jesus I believe in was not the brother of Lucifer who came from some planet out in the cosmos.
If people don't believe in the Jesus that I believe in they believe in another Jesus!
 
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