Church sucks!!!

[His reflection]

Really really sucks, I'm talking about the Church I go to and also a few I have visited and some I heard of. And i'm really sick of the crazy stuff that gose on in the church..... I hope this dont happen to Me.
:microwave:

 

[Lyric's Dad]

The modern creed church's don't know what to teach from one day to the next. It is difficult to wade through the problems. There are options though to find stability and adherence to ALL of the teachings of what the Church is supposed to be and how it was meant to be organised.

If you want any advice, shoot me a p.m.

Otherwise, good luck.

 

[Judy]

Really really sucks, I'm talking about the Church I go to and also a few I have visited and some I heard of. And i'm really sick of the crazy stuff that gose on in the church..... I hope this dont happen to Me.
:microwave:

Could you please give us an example of what you are talking about? :wink:

 

[His reflection]

The modern creed church's don't know what to teach from one day to the next. It is difficult to wade through the problems. There are options though to find stability and adherence to ALL of the teachings of what the Church is supposed to be and how it was meant to be organised.

If you want any advice, shoot me a p.m.

Otherwise, good luck.

Whats a p.m?

 

[His reflection]

Really really sucks, I'm talking about the Church I go to and also a few I have visited and some I heard of. And i'm really sick of the crazy stuff that gose on in the church..... I hope this dont happen to Me.
:microwave:

Could you please give us an example of what you are talking about? :wink:

We have no structure, we have no worship team, we have one proper organised group that is the Men's Fellowship, we have no set time for service to begin on Sundays (it use to be 11am now its 11:15, 11:20, 11:30 or 11:whenever), Our night service is practically the same, there is much much more unplaned unstructured thing that gose on and it drives me crazy and to top it of we have not had a memders in about a year and a half, then when we finally have one it is to talk about fixing the church yard and to get a church sign and have a crusade. but when someone brings up the real facts that we should be dealing with the pastor just laugh it off and down play the idea.
I hope you can understand my stress level. :-?

 

[Lyric's Dad]

waitinontheLamb@hotmail.com[/email]

 

[Relic]

[quote="His reflection":8a8b8]Really really sucks, I'm talking about the Church I go to and also a few I have visited and some I heard of. And i'm really sick of the crazy stuff that gose on in the church..... I hope this dont happen to Me.
:microwave:

Could you please give us an example of what you are talking about? :wink:

We have no structure, we have no worship team, we have one proper organised group that is the Men's Fellowship, we have no set time for service to begin on Sundays (it use to be 11am now its 11:15, 11:20, 11:30 or 11:whenever), Our night service is practically the same, there is much much more unplaned unstructured thing that gose on and it drives me crazy and to top it of we have not had a memders in about a year and a half, then when we finally have one it is to talk about fixing the church yard and to get a church sign and have a crusade. but when someone brings up the real facts that we should be dealing with the pastor just laugh it off and down play the idea.
I hope you can understand my stress level. :-?[/quote:8a8b8]


It may be time to find another church if no one else within the congregation will be willing to have such a meeting concerning your concerns. If you don't want to leave the church you might consider drawing up an outline , to present someone who can help you get it started, or present it to the board members, for a group you would like to start or be involved in.


However, if you are under 18 years old and/or if you are from a very small town and can't find another church, it might serve you well to speak to your parents or counselor at school.


Hope this helps.

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[Lyric's Dad]

[quote="His reflection":27b3c]Really really sucks, I'm talking about the Church I go to and also a few I have visited and some I heard of. And i'm really sick of the crazy stuff that gose on in the church..... I hope this dont happen to Me.
:microwave:

Could you please give us an example of what you are talking about? :wink:

We have no structure, we have no worship team, we have one proper organised group that is the Men's Fellowship, we have no set time for service to begin on Sundays (it use to be 11am now its 11:15, 11:20, 11:30 or 11:whenever), Our night service is practically the same, there is much much more unplaned unstructured thing that gose on and it drives me crazy and to top it of we have not had a memders in about a year and a half, then when we finally have one it is to talk about fixing the church yard and to get a church sign and have a crusade. but when someone brings up the real facts that we should be dealing with the pastor just laugh it off and down play the idea.
I hope you can understand my stress level. :-?

It may be time to find another church if no one else within the congregation will be willing to have such a meeting concerning your concerns. If you don't want to leave the church you might consider drawing up an outline , to present someone who can help you get it started, or present it to the board members, for a group you would like to start or be involved in.


However, if you are under 18 years old and/or if you are from a very small town and can't find another church, it might serve you well to speak to your parents or counselor at school.


Hope this helps.

.[/quote:27b3c]And herein lies the problem with the modern day creed congregation. There is no continuity. If you don't like one church, bounce to another. That is not how it was designed by Christ.

 

[Relic]

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If the church is clearly, without a doubt, NOT operating IN The Truth and IN The Name of Christ, FOR HIS PURPOSE then yes, a person should leave it without hesitation if no one is willing to come to an agreement.

Where does it say in the bible to stay in a church that is a false Church?

When the word "If" is used in a sentence it is not word that hooks one to come to a conclusion in the whole matter, neither is it a conclusive statement when the Phrase " It may be" is used in the sentence.


I would hope that "His reflection" would know to take such things as a conjunctive words and phrases into consideration.


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[His reflection]

It may be time to find another church if no one else within the congregation will be willing to have such a meeting concerning your concerns. If you don't want to leave the church you might consider drawing up an outline , to present someone who can help you get it started, or present it to the board members, for a group you would like to start or be involved in.

Hope this helps.

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This is one of my biggest problems there have not being any functioning board memders, so everthing gose to the pastor and its what ever pastor says.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

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If the church is clearly, without a doubt, NOT operating IN The Truth and IN The Name of Christ, FOR HIS PURPOSE then yes, a person should leave it without hesitation if no one is willing to come to an agreement.

Where does it say in the bible to stay in a church that is a false Church?

When the word "If" is used in a sentence it is not word that hooks one to come to a conclusion in the whole matter, neither is it a conclusive statement when the Phrase " It may be" is used in the sentence.


I would hope that "His reflection" would know to take such things as a conjunctive words and phrases into consideration.


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Exactly. False church being the key words here.

 

[Lyric's Dad]

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If the church is clearly, without a doubt, NOT operating IN The Truth and IN The Name of Christ, FOR HIS PURPOSE then yes, a person should leave it without hesitation if no one is willing to come to an agreement.

Where does it say in the bible to stay in a church that is a false Church?

When the word "If" is used in a sentence it is not word that hooks one to come to a conclusion in the whole matter, neither is it a conclusive statement when the Phrase " It may be" is used in the sentence.


I would hope that "His reflection" would know to take such things as a conjunctive words and phrases into consideration.


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Exactly. False church being the key words here.

 

[destiny]

First pray and ask God to give you the right heart and the right words to confront your pastor with a love and concern for building up Gods people.
Second, don't tear the pastor down behind his back, take your concerns directly to him.
Third, listen carefully to what he says in relation to your concerns. See if he is frustrated with the way things are, If he is, try to figure out what can be done to help with the situation.
If the pastor doesn't seem to care about the way things are, you need to prayerfully seek God concerning where He would have you go.
You don't need to stay in a place that doesn't want to change, take it from someone who knows....you will become lukewarm and quit caring if you stay too long.
Theres a spiritual law...you become what you put yourself under. (the trickle down effect)

 

[His reflection]

First pray and ask God to give you the right heart and the right words to confront your pastor with a love and concern for building up Gods people.
Second, don't tear the pastor down behind his back, take your concerns directly to him.
Third, listen carefully to what he says in relation to your concerns. See if he is frustrated with the way things are, If he is, try to figure out what can be done to help with the situation.
If the pastor doesn't seem to care about the way things are, you need to prayerfully seek God concerning where He would have you go.
You don't need to stay in a place that doesn't want to change, take it from someone who knows....you will become lukewarm and quit caring if you stay too long.
Theres a spiritual law...you become what you put yourself under. (the trickle down effect)

I went to my pastor already nothings changed.

 

[soma]

It sounds like you have the strength, fortitude and spiritual insight to become Christ like. He is guiding you in your present dilema. He only gives you what you can handle so enjoy the lessorn

 

[Free]

If I were you His reflection, I would look for another church if at all possible. At least where I am from, it is required by law that a church has an annual meeting in which members vote on certain issues pertaining to the church's constitution, governance and finances. The minutes are to be kept and all that kind of stuff. I am not all that familiar with the legal aspects, and I do reserve the right to be wrong, but it can get a church into trouble as far as I know.

Of course, that really is the least of your church's worries which is why you should leave. Pray about it first, of course, but biblically your church and it's leader are on a dangerous path from what you have told us.

 

[rover]

Ahh your church sounds like it needs a major change. I dont advice you moving churches cause im sure you've grown to the one your in now...but i do advise (like many of the people here) that you talk about it to your pastor or your parents or whoever you feel comfortable. Seek Gods council first and pray about it. See how things work out, if it stays the same...then i suppose you gotta make a decision for yourself, stay or leave?

 

[going4god]

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If the church is clearly, without a doubt, NOT operating IN The Truth and IN The Name of Christ, FOR HIS PURPOSE then yes, a person should leave it without hesitation if no one is willing to come to an agreement.

Where does it say in the bible to stay in a church that is a false Church?

When the word "If" is used in a sentence it is not word that hooks one to come to a conclusion in the whole matter, neither is it a conclusive statement when the Phrase " It may be" is used in the sentence.


I would hope that "His reflection" would know to take such things as a conjunctive words and phrases into consideration.


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I agree with what relic said. I think you should pray about it first and see what God says. It might take a while for an answer but it will come. My first thought would honestly be to leave the church. if you can't leave (family, friends, etc.) then try having a meeting and express ur feelings. most importantly listen to God. If you have any questions or anything just pm me and i'll be glad to help in any way I can!!!