Common Figure of Speech/Colloquial Language?

[rstrats]

The Messiah said that He would be three days and three nights in the "heart of the earth".

There are some who think that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

And of those, there are some who think that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb or at the earliest to the moment when His spirit left His body).

However, a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection allows for only 2 nights to be involved.

To account for the lack of a 3rd night, there may be some of those mentioned above who try to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language.

I'm simply curious if anyone who may fall in the above group of believers might provide examples to support the belief of commonality; i.e., instances where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred. That is the only issue with which this queston is concerned.

 

[Who Me]

Take a hard look at the rein of the kings of Israel and you'll discover they ruled while there Father was still king.
This is accounted for by the Hebrew custom of count part of a year as a whole year.
This same practise occurs in the time Jesus was in the tomb. The part of the third day is counted as a whole day.

 

[rstrats]

Take a hard look at the rein of the kings of Israel and you'll discover they ruled while there Father was still king.
This is accounted for by the Hebrew custom of count part of a year as a whole year.
This same practise occurs in the time Jesus was in the tomb. The part of the third day is counted as a whole day.

That would be an issue for a different topic.

 

[Who Me]

That would be an issue for a different topic.

No it is answering your post explaining why the biblesays Jesus was in the tomb for three days.

 

[Vinny37]

Please excuse a quote on this from Revisiting the Pilgrim’s Progress (Hakes, 2021).

[Did Bunyan think that Jesus died on a Wednesday? He ‘buried’ his pilgrims in Doubting Castle on a Wednesday, and ‘resurrected’ them on a Sunday morning. I have adjusted the chronology, to fit what I suspect Bunyan linked to Jesus’ death/‌resurrection, to majority opinion.

Briefly, it seems to me that all four Gospels fully agree (Norval Geldenhuys) as to Jesus having partaken on Thursday evening (Nisan 15), of the Passover Lambs (slain Thursday afternoon, Nisan 14)—days ended/began at sunset. On Friday afternoon, his body was entombed (Nisan 15), remaining over the special Sabbath (Nisan 16), and the early part of Sunday morning (Nisan 17). All in all, perhaps 40 hours. Hence it was on the ‘third day’, that he arose the victor from the dark domain.

In rabbinical talk, a daytime and a nighttime made an onah, and even a part-onah could be treated as a whole-onah. (We use ‘day’ similarly.) “Three days and three nights”, can range from three full 24-hour days, to two part-days (eg before dark, Nisan 15; before dawn, Nisan 17) sandwiching a full day (Nisan 16).

Yes, the expression, “three days and three nights”, had wiggle room for interpretation, and could poetically double for ‘three days’ (two night times). We might say that “after three days” could sometimes mean “on the third day” (2 Chr.10:5,12), as well as sometimes mean, on the fourth: imprecision, wiggle. But even taking a part-onah to be spoken of as seemingly a full onah, we can see how part of Nisan 17 could end the “three days/‌nights”, and also allow for a further event—resurrection—after/‌on that same third day.

So, 4 hours on Nisan 15, 24 on Nisan 16, and 12 on Nisan 17, could equal “three days”. Jesus rose on Nisan 17 (Sunday morning), after ‘resting’ on two nights, in full or in part. Mt.12:40 allows that wiggle. Arguably a Wednesday crucifixion theory runs against resurrection “on the third day”, though some claim a Sabbath resurrection—or a Thursday crucifixion.]

 

[rstrats]

Please excuse a quote on this from Revisiting the Pilgrim’s Progress (Hakes, 2021).

[Did Bunyan think that Jesus died on a Wednesday? He ‘buried’ his pilgrims in Doubting Castle on a Wednesday, and ‘resurrected’ them on a Sunday morning. I have adjusted the chronology, to fit what I suspect Bunyan linked to Jesus’ death/‌resurrection, to majority opinion.

Briefly, it seems to me that all four Gospels fully agree (Norval Geldenhuys) as to Jesus having partaken on Thursday evening (Nisan 15), of the Passover Lambs (slain Thursday afternoon, Nisan 14)—days ended/began at sunset. On Friday afternoon, his body was entombed (Nisan 15), remaining over the special Sabbath (Nisan 16), and the early part of Sunday morning (Nisan 17). All in all, perhaps 40 hours. Hence it was on the ‘third day’, that he arose the victor from the dark domain.

In rabbinical talk, a daytime and a nighttime made an onah, and even a part-onah could be treated as a whole-onah. (We use ‘day’ similarly.) “Three days and three nights”, can range from three full 24-hour days, to two part-days (eg before dark, Nisan 15; before dawn, Nisan 17) sandwiching a full day (Nisan 16).

Yes, the expression, “three days and three nights”, had wiggle room for interpretation, and could poetically double for ‘three days’ (two night times). We might say that “after three days” could sometimes mean “on the third day” (2 Chr.10:5,12), as well as sometimes mean, on the fourth: imprecision, wiggle. But even taking a part-onah to be spoken of as seemingly a full onah, we can see how part of Nisan 17 could end the “three days/‌nights”, and also allow for a further event—resurrection—after/‌on that same third day.

So, 4 hours on Nisan 15, 24 on Nisan 16, and 12 on Nisan 17, could equal “three days”. Jesus rose on Nisan 17 (Sunday morning), after ‘resting’ on two nights, in full or in part. Mt.12:40 allows that wiggle. Arguably a Wednesday crucifixion theory runs against resurrection “on the third day”, though some claim a Sabbath resurrection—or a Thursday crucifixion.]

Your comments deal with issues for a different topic. Perhaps you might start one.

 

[rstrats]

No it is answering your post explaining why the biblesays Jesus was in the tomb for three days.

That is not the question of this topic.

 

[Prycejosh1987]

Take a hard look at the rein of the kings of Israel and you'll discover they ruled while there Father was still king.

Perfectly said. God is eternally reigning over everything even though His will governs things that others control like governments and leaders.

 

[rstrats]

Perfectly said. God is eternally reigning over everything even though His will governs things that others control like governments and leaders.

Are you a believer in a 6th day of the week crucifixion/1st day of the week resurrection?