Could Hurricane Katrina be the beginning stages of the One W

[von]

Hi, I have never posted anything on this subject before but I am a person who does alot of thinking. I notice that alot of countries, even countries who our not necessarily our friends are offering to help us. I am just wondering if this could possibly be the beginning of the one world gov. You know, people of all nations coming together, seeing that we "need one another"? Seriously, does anyone ever wonder how these things will fall in place? I doubt if anyone really everthought that we would see the Gaza strip being given away. I know we never thought that we would see Russia and China join forces and train together, but they are now. These are the two countries that the Bible say are going to come down against Israel. Everyting is falling in place isn't it? Just a thought. Any opinions?

 

[Jake99]

You are waiting for the man who has been hidden, to challenge the global system, and to unite the world under one simple system. It is the only way that we can handle the rise in population and the protection of resources. For those of you who think the US is the way you are wrong, they are very wasteful and inefficient. They are also the key to success but they too must change their ways. I was born and live in the US and I have seen it all both the good and the bad. We just need to get rid of the bad and improve upon the good and share our wealth with the world. All other countries must do the same. Are you ready to take the lines off the map?

 

[von]

No, I'm not waiting for the Anti-christ. I'm waiting for Jesus to come in the clouds and take me out of here.

 

[Vic C.]

Re: Could Hurricane Katrina be the beginning stages of the O

... I am just wondering if this could possibly be the beginning of the one world gov....

I'm not too concerned about this "one world government". Neither God nor Satan is interested in global political power. Study End Times and you will see that antichrist's goal is to establish a sort of "one world religion', with him being the object of worship.

People will be 'drawn' to him due to supernatural signs and wonders, not political prowess. The real battle is spiritual, not political. Remember, he only alligns himself with 10 'kingdoms' and really only subdues three of those ten. That's hardly a "one world" political power.

 

[von]

Yeah Vic, but what about the common church, what about the common money system? These things really are political because when the one world religion takes place it is not going to be of our choosing. You know what? Now that I think about it I'm not worried I'm sure Jesus will come and take His people out before then. Thanks for your imput.

Remember, he only alligns himself with 10 'kingdoms' and really only subdues three of those ten. That's hardly a "one world" political power.

What do you mean by this? I don't understand.

 

[Vic C.]

Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

... and of course their accompanying verses.

 

[PHIL121]

I just see Katrina as a general sign that God is getting tired with America's idolotry and arrogance.

And then there's this quote from Patrick Buchanan's column in today's paper:

"The damage done by Katrina to an area as large as Britian must bring home the truth: We are a self-indulgent nation and an overextended empire."

 

[von]

Vic- I'm not very good with Revelations. The churches don't seem to teach it much any more and I haven't heard it taught since I was a child. Go ahead and tell me a little bit. What are the ten nations? I know pople talk about the EU. Is that what this is talking about?

Phil- Yeah, we are sinful and need a wake up call. I'm sure we will have many more.

 

[PHIL121]

Today's quote is from Robert Novak's column (you gotta the wily ol' press veteran, even if he does look like Simon Bar Sinister : )

Republican Connecticut Congressman Christopher Shays, chairman of the national security subcommitee of the Government Reform Committee, commenting on the Katrina disaster, says the administration has "a real sense of arrongance. Loyality and never admitting a mistake are more important than the truth".

Of course, based on personal experience, I've found that applies the Pennsylvania Court system as well.

 

[Jake99]

Von,

Are you implying that the anti christ wants to take the lines off the map? The lines on the map are our global problem that needs to be destroyed. Ever since man has owned this earth instead of using it we have fought wars over who owns what. One electronic monetary system and one language and combined ownership would simplify matters to the point where we just might survive this mess and live in peace and prosperity.

 

[Vic C.]

Sorry if I sound pessimistic, but Man will never achieve peace and prosperity on 'his' own.

On the other hand...

Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Rev 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

:angel:

 

[Jake99]

Man needs to be led to live as the religious books imply. Peace, prosperity and long life is not as difficult to achieve as you think it is. I have accomplished that feat everywhere I have ever managed. Its about solving problems, working smart, not hard and treating manpower and materials with respect. Man seems to have no respect for anything including themselves. Do the words liers, cheaters and thieves mean anything?

 

[reznwerks]

yea

I just see Katrina as a general sign that God is getting tired with America's idolotry and arrogance.
Do you really think God is upset with Americas idolotry and Katrina is an example? New Orleans is built below sea level and has been inundated before. New Orleans government ignored warnings to evacuate and did not use resources at hand to lessen the impact. Hurricanes happen every year and the more man builds along the coast the more monetary damage will occur as well as life lost.

And then there's this quote from Patrick Buchanan's column in today's paper:

"The damage done by Katrina to an area as large as Britian must bring home the truth: We are a self-indulgent nation and an overextended empire."
What Pat was referring too was the insistance on the US population to live close to the shore and recognized the failure of the US to respond to the calamity because we are stretched to thin on many fronts politcally ,socially and militarily. A God is not sitting up there getting all P/O because the US is not doing this or that.

 

[PHIL121]

Re: yea

Do you really think God is upset with Americas idolotry and Katrina is an example?

Yes.

"The damage done by Katrina to an area as large as Britian must bring home the truth: We are a self-indulgent nation and an overextended empire."

What Pat was referring too was the insistance on the US population to live close to the shore and recognized the failure of the US to respond to the calamity because we are stretched to thin on many fronts politcally ,socially and militarily.

I think Mr. Buchanan's words speak for themselves.

A God is not sitting up there getting all P/O because the US is not doing this or that.

And you know this ....because????? :roll:

 

[PHIL121]

Thene there's this quote from Sister Angelica on EWTN (The 'Catholic" Channel)..

"I believe America is in big trouble with God. We peddle deception"

And I'm sure that show was recorded loooonnnggg before Katrina.

 

[kerravon]

We are a self-indulgent nation and an overextended empire."

The US doesn't have an empire. What it has is an excellent foreign policy/ideology/religion that doesn't require forcing anyone to do anything. The US gets allies NATURALLY, because other countries share the US's goals (or vice-versa). Those goals are spreading rational, humanist, non-subjugating government. It's the solution to all the problems, and is documented in http://www.moatazilla.org.

 

[Jake99]

Vic,

I am not a bible reader but Rev 21:4,5 as you state it is right on the money. Let me know when you are ready for that type of leadership.

There are many great things about the US but they are also the most wasteful country on the planet. We cannot afford to be wasteful and in my opinion it is a crime against god and humanity that the US tries to spread their operating system globally. What worked in the past is not what will work in the future, things have changed for the better technologically and yet we still use the same old operating system. Population is rising quickly and so are the problems we face which get worse by the moment.

And tell Pat Buchanan that America got into this mess on his watch. He has had great influence on this country and this is where we are. He is either too dumb or too stuck in his ways to consider change. Lets see the war on terror for the rest of time and one city after another destroyed by the forces of nature and 70- 90 % ( Dr Don Colbert) of all US doctor visits are stress related. I guess Pat never read the childrens story of the 3 pigs and peace and prosperity is hardly what we are creating in the US. Just what is the Christian divorce rate?

 

[Vic C.]

things have changed for the better technologically and yet we still use the same old operating system.

Hahaha, I chuckled when I read this. I heard this recently:

"To err is human; to really screw up, you need a computer."

:

Also, don't be too hard on Pat. It's not all his fault and he is not as influential as some may think. Sure, he says some off the wall things sometimes, but many people don't like what he says because sometimes hir words are like a mirror. We don't always like what we see in the mirror, do we?

I also wouldn't worry about what one Catholic nun says about America being deceptive. Consider the source. :o Plus, consider the deceptiveness of some of our Islamic states. For instance, how much do you think it costs OPEC to produce one barrell of crude oil. Now, compare that to the overinflated price we see in the Stock Exchange.

 

[von]

Vic- you never responded to me about the ten nations. I was serious when I said I am not very good with Revelations and I wanted you to explain that to me. Maybe it's too much fr on here. If it is that's okay. But try and just give me a brief summary. Thanks!

 

[Vic C.]

Vic- you never responded to me about the ten nations. I was serious when I said I am not very good with Revelations and I wanted you to explain that to me. Maybe it's too much fr on here. If it is that's okay. But try and just give me a brief summary. Thanks!

Sorry about that. It slipped my mind. I don't want to sidetrack this thread. There are several threads in the End Times Forum that address this. If you get some time, take a look around. You might want to read this too: http://www.solagroup.org/articles/endtimes/ep_0005.html

Maybe one day this week, I will start a thread consisting of what I know about the ten nations. I do beleive though that some of the ten may not be European.