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[God Is My Judge]

Well, you did say that you "believe that holiness is the cure." But that isn't found in Scripture, so that makes it bad theology.

No, it is in scripture.
The Cause and the effects and the Christ who came to reverse the curse.

The origin of plagues​

The things that we may face today such as sin, sickness, diseases, natural disasters, and more were never part of God’s original plan for humanity. Plagues are one of the effects of the original sin (Adam’s sin of disobedience).

1. Romans 8:19-21 “For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.”

Hi! child of God here! Thank you Jesus!

Jesus is and always will be -the good physician. Amid bad ancient medicine then and now, His holy scriptures give sight to His purpose for His people. According to Christian scripture, Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples were popularly acclaimed healers within a highly competitive medical services market since the Male Child has come forth in His Elect by way of devotion to His Mother, the birth of Christ in the Elect souls is taking place. It happens at the same time the dragon's beast system rears its ugly head. Throughout Christian history my Lord is called the Good Physician. A Syriac Christian text, probably from no later than the early fifth century, addressed Jesus as “Jesus, the Good Physician.” That is just one example.
Deuteronomy 7:
The Promises of God
…14You will be blessed above all peoples; among you there will be no barren man or woman or livestock. 15And the LORD will remove from you all sickness. He will not lay upon you any of the terrible diseases you knew in Egypt, but He will inflict them on all who hate you. 16You must destroy all the peoples the LORD your God will deliver to you. Do not look on them with pity. Do not worship their gods, for that will be a snare to you.…

Understanding Deuteronomy through the Light of the New Covenant, the Elect are to utterly destroy all false doctrine with no pity for its wielders. Their false doctrine is evidence of their worship of false god's. Science is not my god, God is. I am, like my sister Judith, I am to cut off the head of any general who seek to desecrate the temple of God. Though they have conquered all the surrounding lands and camps, God's people will be protected by my service. I am here to cut off the heads of false knowledge and doctrines. If I save one, I have succeeded. However, I take no prisoners. I am not like king Saul, when God says kill all His enemies- WITH THE SWORD OF HIS MOUTH=a sharp tongue, I do not flinch! In the light of the NC it does NOT mean physically kill with a sword but with the sword of truth put to death the lie!

 

[Free]

No, it is in scripture.
The Cause and the effects and the Christ who came to reverse the curse.

The origin of plagues​

The things that we may face today such as sin, sickness, diseases, natural disasters, and more were never part of God’s original plan for humanity. Plagues are one of the effects of the original sin (Adam’s sin of disobedience).

1. Romans 8:19-21 “For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.”

Hi! child of God here! Thank you Jesus!

Jesus is and always will be -the good physician. Amid bad ancient medicine then and now, His holy scriptures give sight to His purpose for His people. According to Christian scripture, Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples were popularly acclaimed healers within a highly competitive medical services market since the Male Child has come forth in His Elect by way of devotion to His Mother, the birth of Christ in the Elect souls is taking place. It happens at the same time the dragon's beast system rears its ugly head. Throughout Christian history my Lord is called the Good Physician. A Syriac Christian text, probably from no later than the early fifth century, addressed Jesus as “Jesus, the Good Physician.” That is just one example.
Deuteronomy 7:
The Promises of God
…14You will be blessed above all peoples; among you there will be no barren man or woman or livestock. 15And the LORD will remove from you all sickness. He will not lay upon you any of the terrible diseases you knew in Egypt, but He will inflict them on all who hate you. 16You must destroy all the peoples the LORD your God will deliver to you. Do not look on them with pity. Do not worship their gods, for that will be a snare to you.…

Understanding Deuteronomy through the Light of the New Covenant, the Elect are to utterly destroy all false doctrine with no pity for its wielders. Their false doctrine is evidence of their worship of false god's. Science is not my god, God is. I am, like my sister Judith, I am to cut off the head of any general who seek to desecrate the temple of God. Though they have conquered all the surrounding lands and camps, God's people will be protected by my service. I am here to cut off the heads of false knowledge and doctrines. If I save one, I have succeeded. However, I take no prisoners. I am not like king Saul, when God says kill all His enemies- WITH THE SWORD OF HIS MOUTH=a sharp tongue, I do not flinch! In the light of the NC it does NOT mean physically kill with a sword but with the sword of truth put to death the lie!

Sorry, but none of that supports your claim.

 

[God Is My Judge]

What's coming for the end time Elect....First I want to thank the first church who art in heaven for your labor and leaving to the End time Elect a glorious inheritance! May your names be glorified in our Christ who came to you first to leave us the most beautiful gift- THE HOLY WRITTEN WORD! Much love!
Isaiah 65: this is all in process right now.
This is what the LORD says:

“As the new wine is found in a cluster of grapes,

and men say, ‘Do not destroy it, for it contains a blessing,’

so I will act on behalf of My servants; (This has to do with the narrative of the wedding Feast of Canaan= the wine served at the end of the wedding feast.)

I will not destroy them all. ( Because of the Elect servant's prayers and supplications he will not destroy all the inhabitants of the earth nor all the house of Jacob. He will spare a remnant.)

9And I will bring forth descendants from Jacob,

and heirs from Judah; (The heirs are those in Praise of God which Judah means)
( The following verses are yet to happen)
My elect will possess My mountains,

and My servants will dwell there.

10Sharon will become a pasture for flocks,

and the Valley of Achor a resting place for herds,

for My people who seek Me.

11But you who forsake the LORD,

who forget My holy mountain,

who set a table for Fortune

and fill bowls of mixed wine for Destiny, ( If you know nothing about Kabbalah and Blood Libel then this will elude you. )

12I will destine you for the sword,

and you will all kneel down to be slaughtered, ( Isaiah 18 is to be paired with this it has yet to happen)

because I called and you did not answer,

I spoke and you did not listen;

you did evil in My sight

and chose that in which I did not delight.”

13Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says:

“My servants will eat,

but you will go hungry;

My servants will drink,

but you will go thirsty;

My servants will rejoice,

but you will be put to shame.

14My servants will shout for joy with a glad heart,

but you will cry out with a heavy heart

and wail with a broken spirit.

15You will leave behind your name

as a curse for My chosen ones,

and the Lord GOD will slay you;

but to His servants He will give another name.

16Whoever invokes a blessing in the land

will do so by the God of truth,

and whoever takes an oath in the land

will swear by the God of truth.

For the former troubles will be forgotten

and hidden from My sight.

The following verses have been attributed to a New Heaven and a New Earth, however, it is not the resurrection but a time the Mother of Christ revealed to the little ones. When Christ begins the process of creating a new earth it will not begin after the resurrection but while the survivors of what is coming are still here. It will be completely finished at His second coming but will begin before that. Read and listen to the words carefully.

17For behold, I will create

new heavens and a new earth.

The former things will not be remembered,

nor will they come to mind. ( this is concerning His Elect people.)

18But be glad and rejoice forever

in what I create;

for I will create Jerusalem to be a joy

and its people to be a delight.

19I will rejoice in Jerusalem

and take delight in My people.

The sounds of weeping and crying

will no longer be heard in her.

20No longer will a nursing infant live but a few days,

or an old man fail to live out his years.

For the youth will die at a hundred years, ( This is interesting, because after the resurrection no one dies. So, what's going on? The youth here that will die at 100 is concerning the Elects final offspring and the final battle of Armageddon. To long to explain now, but clearly not the resurrection right?)

and he who fails to reach a hundred

will be considered accursed.

21They will build houses and dwell in them;

they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.

22No longer will they build houses for others to inhabit,

nor plant for others to eat.

For as is the lifetime of a tree,

so will be the days of My people,

and My chosen ones will fully enjoy

the work of their hands. ( Build? work of their hands? definitely not the resurrection.)

23They will not labor in vain

or bear children doomed to disaster; ( bear children? At the resurrection we are like the angels neither taken or given in marriage! Things that make you go hmmm.....

for they will be a people blessed by the LORD—

they and their descendants with them. ( Oh yes the final offspring I spoke of, of which some will be a YOUNG 100 when the final battle occurs.)

24Even before they call, I will answer,

and while they are still speaking, I will hear.

25The wolf and the lamb will feed together,

and the lion will eat straw like the ox,

but the food of the serpent will be dust. ( this harkens back to Genesis, the brood of vipers will be confined in the bunkers in the earth for this period of time granted to the Elect. When they rise out of the earth, the will then once again attack the Holy people of God in Jerusalem. For now, a partial tribulation has been unfolding.)

They will neither harm nor destroy

on all My holy mountain,” ( True Zion which means the Zenith or Pinnacle of the faith on earth).

 

[God Is My Judge]

Sorry, but none of that supports your claim.

Teh heee heeee. Yes, it does as do the following verses I just posted. And I don't care a flip what you think. Consider yourself told. I am simply slaying the day! Lol! I know what the Lord has in store for me and the fam! I also know what He has in store for the fam's enemies. I am simply doing what the Watcher is to do.
Ezekiel 3:

A Watchman for Israel
…17“Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel. Whenever you hear a word from My mouth, give them a warning from Me. 18If I say to the wicked man, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him or speak out to warn him from his wicked way to save his life, that wicked man will die in his iniquity, and I will hold you responsible for his blood. 19But if you warn a wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness and his wicked way, he will die in his iniquity, but you will have saved yourself.…

I'm simply doing my job!

 

[Free]

Teh heee heeee. Yes, it does as do the following verses I just posted. And I don't care a flip what you think. Consider yourself told. I am simply slaying the day! Lol! I know what the Lord has in store for me and the fam! I also know what He has in store for the fam's enemies. I am simply doing what the Watcher is to do.
Ezekiel 3:

A Watchman for Israel
…17“Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel. Whenever you hear a word from My mouth, give them a warning from Me. 18If I say to the wicked man, ‘You will surely die,’ but you do not warn him or speak out to warn him from his wicked way to save his life, that wicked man will die in his iniquity, and I will hold you responsible for his blood. 19But if you warn a wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness and his wicked way, he will die in his iniquity, but you will have saved yourself.…

I'm simply doing my job!

Like I said, none of that supports your claim "that holiness is the cure." That idea isn't found in Scripture (apart from being in heaven, of course), so that makes it bad theology. And be careful of your lack of humility since "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."

 

[God Is My Judge]

Like I said, none of that supports your claim "that holiness is the cure." That idea isn't found in Scripture (apart from being in heaven, of course), so that makes it bad theology. And be careful of your lack of humility since "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."

No, no , no you misunderstand, I know I am not humbled before sin , before God yes, I don't bow to sin. The only fall I'm going to see is the fall of Babylon

 

[God Is My Judge]

Can you all say Covid, variants, monkeypox, polio oh my! It just keeps growing! Nothing going on people, nothing to see here, just keeps going....

How Polio Crept Back Into the U.S. — ProPublica

U.S. public health agencies generally don’t test wastewater for signs of polio. That may have given the virus time to circulate silently before it paralyzed a New York man.

apple.news

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I have had an immediate family member die from COVID and their spouse would have died if it wasn't for treatment in hospital. I've had an uncle die of COVID and his wife and one of his sons would have died if it wasn't for treatment in hospital. All were unvaxxed. A young woman from our church has had long COVID for 2.5 years, unvaxxed only because she started her first job as a nurse on a COVID unit.

I know a lot of people that have been fully vaccinated with boosters and not a single vaccine injury. I find it interesting that my experience lines up very well with the data. Vaccine injuries where I live are below 0.03% of vaccinations.

Anyone, vaccinated or unvaccinated, can get COVID and get it more than once. What the data shows though, is that being vaccinated significantly reduces severe outcomes, hospitalizations, and deaths.


Yes, they are.


A lot of well-meaning, but seriously mislead people, have died believing the same, when a vaccine would most likely have saved their lives.


This is simply very bad theology.

Germany has now set-up a clinic specializing in covid “vaccine”-related illness or injuries. The whole country knows there are serious to life-threatening injuries from those shots. People suffering from those jabs are doubly hurt by people who deny they happen at all.

 

[Corn Pop]

I'm still wondering what lockdowns long term achieved.

I know it destroyed societies mental health and busted small family business's and many people lost jobs and it's just been a complete mess.


Stay home save lives?. Im not sure how many lives were saved, I mean 19 is still running rampant after lockdown and many people are dying.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I'm still wondering what lockdowns long term achieved.

I know it destroyed societies mental health and busted small family business's and many people lost jobs and it's just been a complete mess.


Stay home save lives?. Im not sure how many lives were saved, I mean 19 is still running rampant after lockdown and many people are dying.

The general cost to gain analysis by unbiased sources say the gain was much less than the loss, much of which remains to be seen. In other words, it was a very bad choice. Sweden didn’t lock down and their general outcome isn’t worse although they had the benefit of no lockdown loss.

 

[Corn Pop]

The State government built a quarinrine camp on lease land and it cost tax payers 220 million. Now like a couple years after its been built only about 700 people ever used it, it's about to be baron and full of mothballs in the middle of no where. The last few people will be leaving soon. Just a 220 million dollar moth ball. Not like it's hard times and could have been spent else where, I guess that's what happens when people spend money that's not there's. May as well just give France another 800 million dollars just to not hurt there feelings again in the future why citizens are suffering and struggling been through and going through rough times. Its only a billion dollars, a wasted camp for 200 million and 800 million not to hurt someone's feelings.

 

[Corn Pop]

The tax payer funded facility works out to like over $300,000 per person who used it. Lol. You would expect Japanese wagyu steak and lobster being spoon fed while bathed in milk and being massaged with luxury fragrant oils for that. Lol.

220 million to build and just over 700 people used it then it's baron. That's alot of money per person housed there from the cost to time used and people.

 

[Free]

Germany has now set-up a clinic specializing in covid “vaccine”-related illness or injuries. The whole country knows there are serious to life-threatening injuries from those shots. People suffering from those jabs are doubly hurt by people who deny they happen at all.

Of course there are serious to life-threatening injuries from the vaccines, that is to be expected. It is unfortunate but I doubt there is a vaccine out there that doesn't negatively affect a small percentage of the population. Common sense suggests that it is impossible for it to be otherwise. But these two facts remain: 1) the vaccines significantly reduces severe outcomes, hospitalizations, and deaths, and 2) getting COVID can result in the same injuries that vaccines cause but to a much more significant likelihood and degree.

Some people deny vaccine injuries and some deny COVID is a thing. Both are wrong.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Of course there are serious to life-threatening injuries from the vaccines, that is to be expected. It is unfortunate but I doubt there is a vaccine out there that doesn't negatively affect a small percentage of the population. Common sense suggests that it is impossible for it to be otherwise. But these two facts remain: 1) the vaccines significantly reduces severe outcomes, hospitalizations, and deaths, and 2) getting COVID can result in the same injuries that vaccines cause but to a much more significant likelihood and degree.

Some people deny vaccine injuries and some deny COVID is a thing. Both are wrong.

No clinic for the “vaccinated”
existed before the covid injections.

 

[Free]

I'm still wondering what lockdowns long term achieved.

I know it destroyed societies mental health and busted small family business's and many people lost jobs and it's just been a complete mess.

The lockdowns very likely reduced deaths and hospitalizations. People's mental health has been affected by COVID, both in getting it, not wanting to get it, and losing loved ones, so arguing that lockdowns have hurt people's mental health doesn't get us anywhere. Of course things are a mess, it's a pandemic that has killed over 6 million and left many with long COVID and many of those people can no longer work either.

You can't just blame lockdowns and ignore the fact that we've been in a pandemic for 2 years.

Stay home save lives?. Im not sure how many lives were saved, I mean 19 is still running rampant after lockdown and many people are dying.

Yes, because people will be people. It's the attitude of people like several in this thread that is the problem--denying the legitimacy of vaccines, not wanting to follow mandates, etc. Human behaviour is probably the biggest problem.

 

[Free]

No clinic for the “vaccinated”
existed before the covid injections.

And why should that be surprising? It shouldn't. When was the last time Germany handed out 184 million doses of a vaccine? When was the last time that well over 63 million people were vaccinated in Germany in a year-and-a-half or so? If I was a betting man, I would bet everything I own that no other vaccine in history has come close.

 

[Corn Pop]

The lockdowns very likely reduced deaths and hospitalizations. People's mental health has been affected by COVID, both in getting it, not wanting to get it, and losing loved ones, so arguing that lockdowns have hurt people's mental health doesn't get us anywhere. Of course things are a mess, it's a pandemic that has killed over 6 million and left many with long COVID and many of those people can no longer work either.

You can't just blame lockdowns and ignore the fact that we've been in a pandemic for 2 years.


Yes, because people will be people. It's the attitude of people like several in this thread that is the problem--denying the legitimacy of vaccines, not wanting to follow mandates, etc. Human behaviour is probably the biggest problem.

Everyone did follow mandates. I think everyone did quite well there was only a handful who didn't comply yet most it was like someone isolated fishing or something so not like they spread 19. I mean even I'm not of lockdowns I still followed the rules and I follow mandates. Now there is no mandates and I see people taking responsibility for themselves and wearing masks, maybe they are the vulnerable so taking extra precautions. Everyone else is just getting on with there daily lives as normal.

Sure lockdowns may have limited the spread for a time but you can't just lock everyone down forever. So once everything re opened nothing changes 19 still runs rampant. I think the government's intentions were good but I don't think it's possible to eliminate the virus. I'm more a long-term thinker so I think what is the long term outcome and what would it achieve and I just seen miserable people. Jobs lost, business bust, mental health issues and so on.

As for the vaccine most people who were eligible got it. The Vax rate is high and you can't expext veryone to get it and people still get sick with it. After lockdown I know a triple jabbed who passed away with 19. I mean he was like 97.

 

[Corn Pop]

No one can be blamed for anything. Its a invisible virus. If people are sick they should stay home and isolate until they are well . That health practice has been around for centuries. Most sick people wear a mask if they have to go out for some reason to contain what they have like if they cough or sneeze its contained.. That practice has been around for a long time. Someone wearing a mask you know they probably sick. And the other way as well, sometimes people with conditions and a vulnerable immune system will wear a mask when they go out to take extra precaution. That practice has been around a long time.

Doctors always wore masks. I mean sick people going to the doctors. That something people should always do, wear a mask if they going into a doctor's practice if they sick. You don't know who is vulnerable there no one wants to catch someone else's germs.