[_ Old Earth _] Creation Powered School?

[John]

Hello.

Me and few other started a Q&A session on creation/evolution a few years back in my school, we now have over 150 members involved, we started a campaign and got a petition to eliminate evolution teachings in bio class, we got over 2000 names form the town, and the school got rid of the old textbooks with all the lies, and with funding from the campaign bought new text books, before you go all nuts these books, don't use evolution for teaching but to make everyone happy they don't teach creation either , they tech basic bio, without the evolution crap.

Chalk one up for the good guys !

 

[Deep Thought]

Which school was this?

What's the campaign name?

What's the name of the books?

 

[John]

YCMHS

Truth Matters

Biology 11 Nelson Thomson learning

the word evolution is not even in the index. not once.

Contents:
Unit 1
Cellular Functions
Unit 2
Genetic Continuity
Unit 3
Internal systems and regulation
Unit 4
Diversity Of living things
Unit 5
Plants: Anatomy, Growth and functions

So you can teach bio with out the magic of evolution :P

 

[Deep Thought]

I looked up that book on the Nelson Education website http://science.nelson.com/0176265252/studweblinks.html and Unit 4 is listed as

Unit 4 - Plant Structure and Physiology

rather than

Unit 4 - Diversity Of living things

Where did you get your contents list from? I'd love to see how the diversity of living things can be explained without evolution OR creationism.

 

[John]

I got the book on my lap the unit list is in the order i said,

Diversity of living things breaks down to this:

Taxonomy and the world of microorganisms and viruses

Fungi and Plants

Invertebrates

Chordates

Bio Diversity

 

[Deep Thought]

So the book just talks about the classification of living things?

Teaching biology without evolution is a bit like studying history by only looking at modern day events.

 

[John]

The book, is great it talks about Bio without the BS of evolution, it talks about only proven things.

You don't need to know evolution to study Bio in school.

 

[Deep Thought]

Taking the history analogy again, how poor would our knowledge of the political system in the US be if we didn't know anything at all about the white settlement of the US and the formation of the states.

 

[John]

My Claim still stands, we don't need evolution is school.

 

[Deep Thought]

You could take the same view on all subjects. We don't need maths, English, Arts etc, but we would be a lot more ignorant and intellectually poorer for it.

 

[John]

You could take the same view on all subjects. We don't need maths, English, Arts etc, but we would be a lot more ignorant and intellectually poorer for it.

We need basic math and English and maybe arts to take a crack at the creative side. but evolution gives us nothing, it might make and interesting topic in mythology class though.

 

[Dunzo]

Yeah, OK, stop teaching evolution in schools and see people die of the common cold in 50 years.

 

[Deep Thought]

We need basic math and English and maybe arts to take a crack at the creative side. but evolution gives us nothing, it might make and interesting topic in mythology class though.

So we should throw out modern medicine (which is underpinned by the understanding of evolution) and go back to the level of health care in the dark ages?

 

[Ignatz]

This is the most ignorant, Idiotic post i have ever read. The poster is PROUD that they managed to get legitimate science taken out of a science class? Bravo!

Without an understanding of evolution, we could not develop vaccines, you imbecile. it is the only scientific theory that describes the variation we see in the natural world, and it is backed-up by mountains of evidence from different discilplines. It doesn't matter how you feel about the ToE, it is the state of our understanding of biology at present, and should therefore be taught in all biology classes.

The USA is falling way behind the rest of the world in the sciences, and idiotic moves like this are destroying this country's ability to compete with the rest of the world.

 

[John]

This is the most ignorant, Idiotic post i have ever read. The poster is PROUD that they managed to get legitimate science taken out of a science class? Bravo!

Without an understanding of evolution, we could not develop vaccines, you imbecile. it is the only scientific theory that describes the variation we see in the natural world, and it is backed-up by mountains of evidence from different discilplines. It doesn't matter how you feel about the ToE, it is the state of our understanding of biology at present, and should therefore be taught in all biology classes.

The USA is falling way behind the rest of the world in the sciences, and idiotic moves like this are destroying this country's ability to compete with the rest of the world.

 

[John]

O HAHAHA another thing to burst your bubble.

this book is not just for Grade 11, its 10 and 12 simular books are for 9,8,7,6,5,4 etc etc

And its not just my school thats switching get this EVERY school in my area has already switched before my group was created, my school was just the last one to switch, they said they were planning on it for a while, but the extra funding helped.

so over 2000 students are now free from false propaganda.

And its spreading outside of my town, to near by towns.

Tell me, if evolution was so necessary and true, why are schools here so easy to remove it ?

BTW my teacher is an evolutionists, he says "i am not mad, evolution is unproved, and until it is i see no reason why my students should have the need to learn it" there is no protesting from anyone, i am glad to be raised here, god has his hand over this town, and we prosper

I think the reason is mostly due to the fact that of all the creation seminars around here, i do some of them myself in fact i am going to the city to do one in front of 300-400 peopel (i will post pics when i do it)
We have had many a great star down here.. even kent hovind, lol

so step one is complete, now for step two, ridding the collages and universities from evolutions vise like grip, so in about 4 weeks my group is having a speech at the local collage with members of the board, pray it goes well.

 

[Jayls5]

Hello.

Me and few other started a Q&A session on creation/evolution a few years back in my school, we now have over 150 members involved, we started a campaign and got a petition to eliminate evolution teachings in bio class, we got over 2000 names form the town, and the school got rid of the old textbooks with all the lies, and with funding from the campaign bought new text books, before you go all nuts these books, don't use evolution for teaching but to make everyone happy they don't teach creation either , they tech basic bio, without the evolution crap.

Chalk one up for the good guys !

Sweet, I want to ruin the credibility of my school too!

Where do I sign up?

This is the most ignorant, Idiotic post i have ever read. The poster is PROUD that they managed to get legitimate science taken out of a science class? Bravo!

Without an understanding of evolution, we could not develop vaccines, you imbecile. it is the only scientific theory that describes the variation we see in the natural world, and it is backed-up by mountains of evidence from different discilplines. It doesn't matter how you feel about the ToE, it is the state of our understanding of biology at present, and should therefore be taught in all biology classes.

The USA is falling way behind the rest of the world in the sciences, and idiotic moves like this are destroying this country's ability to compete with the rest of the world.

Ya rly.

 

[John]

Lying to kids does not progress anything, get a brain.

 

[Jayls5]

Lying to kids does not progress anything, get a brain.

I like the way you simplify a complex issue into absolutes. Sounds a bit... religious in your vigor. Not very scientific.

 

[John]

so you condone teaching kids proven false items in an educational center ?