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Creation Questions...

jasonc said:
the sheep cloned didn't live long. and well what is stem cells? they are cloned and then forced to become what cell is need and returned to the donor for the repair.
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That's interesting that the sheep didn't live long and the Liger is partly dysfunctional in its natural habitat. It looks like when man tries to create something that's not natural it doesn't work very well. I don't know about stem cells though?
 
jeff77 said:
That's interesting that the sheep didn't live long and the Liger is partly dysfunctional in its natural habitat. It looks like when man tries to create something that's not natural it doesn't work very well. I don't know about stem cells though?
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adult stem cell works and that sheep lived only four years shorter then they normal do. she was cloned from an adult. her telomers were longer then they should be if she was younger.
 
jasonc said:
adult stem cell works and that sheep lived only four years shorter then they normal do. she was cloned from an adult. her telomers were longer then they should be if she was younger.
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Interesting? So the cloned sheep had the appearance of age?
 
jeff77 said:
Interesting? So the cloned sheep had the appearance of age?
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yes, she was cloned from the host , and started at that age. not physically, but the telomers were longer and she died at younger age.
 
Gary said:
For what purpose?
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Polluting Yahweh's Creation, bringing disorder, interupting the lineage of Jesus ( futile of course) are some possibilities maybe. Also I'm guessing norty Angels just fancy women because Yahweh made them for man.

:bricks
 
agua. said:
Polluting Yahweh's Creation, bringing disorder, interupting the lineage of Jesus ( futile of course) are some possibilities maybe. Also I'm guessing norty Angels just fancy women because Yahweh made them for man.

:bricks
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Fallen angels are spiritual beings. Are they able to materialize at will?
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Gary said:
Fallen angels are spiritual beings. Are they able to materialize at will?
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I don't know about at will but we're told some have. Also Jude said some Angels left their own habitation ( oiketerion ) and this was sinful. Oiketerion is only used one other time when Paul talked about our spiritual body after resurrection.
 
Fallen angels or Demons can appear if they want.They can appear as Grandma or Grandpa in a seance.They can appear as ghosts.
 
Kathi said:
Fallen angels or Demons can appear if they want.They can appear as Grandma or Grandpa in a seance.They can appear as ghosts.
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I have seen ghosts. any demonic form that I recall, wansnt anything that I would say human. the spirit that roamed the church I worked in didn't have flesh and had eyes all over its body.
 
Kathi said:
Fallen angels or Demons can appear if they want.They can appear as Grandma or Grandpa in a seance.They can appear as ghosts.
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Maybe even appear as Samuel ? Oh boy Ed has started somethin' here. :D
 
jasonc said:
I have seen ghosts. any demonic form that I recall, wansnt anything that I would say human. the spirit that roamed the church I worked in didn't have flesh and had eyes all over its body.
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My son was in the restroom once in a big department store.There was no one in there but him he was sure.He was washing his hands and a hand came over the stall door and waved at him.He then went to look in that stall.No one was there.
 
the most recent event of demonic activity was at the base I was at just two years ago and still go to. my chaplain and I were walking and talking about our faith. these crows followed us while crowing. unusual for them to to crow like they did let alone for 30 plus minutes and to follow us. I was telling the chaplain this area is haunted and men dressed in german uniforms have been seen near that place. we then focused on how ministers act and how the body acts at times that isn't so faithful. these crows were letting us the demons are aware of what we are doing. we stopped doing what we did for a sec, they stopped. ie the chaplain stopped to talk to a sgm. it wasn't about faith, they got quite. when we started walking then they got noisy again and when we called it a day . they left.View attachment 4576
 
Gary said:
For what purpose?
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Well it is said that they wanted to have children (and perhaps stop Christ from being born.)
Eugene said:
Brother Edward, this has all the pitfalls in my opinion of the scientists coming to God claiming they can create life just as God did. Really? Yeah, we’ll just take some dirt . . . Hold on there; you’ve got to make your own dirt first.

This story has been around and I’m probably telling it wrong, but it expresses my thinking on new dog breeds being considered creation. :)
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I think you're right brother Eugene and we now get to the meat of the matter. Man is not God that he can make a new creation, for his wisdom is but a foolishness unto God, but he can do some things and even crossbreed. It was said of man at the tower of babel that if left alone, that men could do anything he imagined. So with the minds of many we get clarity.

jasonc said:
the sheep cloned didn't live long. and well what is stem cells? they are cloned and then forced to become what cell is need and returned to the donor for the repair.
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Really. I hadn't heard that. it does sort've make sense though. Even if their structure was good, they eat too much. They would throw off the balance of the ecological system. Here we see God winning again with perfect design and balance, lol.

Why are they doing all of this hybridization lately? Do they think they can improve on God?
 
Kathi said:
My son was in the restroom once in a big department store.There was no one in there but him he was sure.He was washing his hands and a hand came over the stall door and waved at him.He then went to look in that stall.No one was there.
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What the? While he was on the can? Perv spirits, lol. Did it frighten him? Evil spirits don't frighten me, I know I have authority over them in the name of Jesus. Geez, spirits are easier to deal with than man, lol.

How'd we veer into spirits?
 
I don't know, but man has done that to animals for years. dogs come to mind.
 
So our reasonable conclusion is that, no, no one except God can actually create life. But we can madify it though, through cross breeding and genetic engineering. Mankind has done it for a long time...perhaps the fallen angels did too. Cross breeding.
 
Edward said:
So our reasonable conclusion is that, no, no one except God can actually create life. But we can madify it though, through cross breeding and genetic engineering. Mankind has done it for a long time...perhaps the fallen angels did too. Cross breeding.
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no, let say that I was involved with an usual soul tie. it was a long time ago. I remember a probe of my mind from a woman, random at times. years later I met her. she existed and we well dated. it wasn't until I knew she was gifted that she had done that. if there was a chance of that happening many woman and men would be subjected in this manner as we often delve into that junk.
 
jasonc said:
no, let say that I was involved with an usual soul tie. it was a long time ago. I remember a probe of my mind from a woman, random at times. years later I met her. she existed and we well dated. it wasn't until I knew she was gifted that she had done that. if there was a chance of that happening many woman and men would be subjected in this manner as we often delve into that junk.
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You lost me brother. I have no idea what that has to do with the subject at hand.
 
Edward said:
You lost me brother. I have no idea what that has to do with the subject at hand.
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you mentioned fallen angels and human hybrids. i said that i was into the occult. there ya go. what i have talked about wasn't uncommon in the circles i was into. of course that is if one believes that was the case.
 
jasonc said:
you mentioned fallen angels and human hybrids. i said that i was into the occult. there ya go. what i have talked about wasn't uncommon in the circles i was into. of course that is if one believes that was the case.
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Oh yeah. Wow you were into some serious stuff. Glad to hear you made it out brother. :)
So you could feel the mind probe, or you just learned of it later when she told you?
 
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