[_ Old Earth _] Creationist vs evolutionist, whos the fool?

[Asimov]

[quote="The Tuatha'an":75df2]Marck, just some cross-exmaninatory questions.

1)How old do you think the earth is?

2)Do you not believe anything that can't be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt?

3)Do you accept the Theory of Relativities explanation for how gravity works?

4)What religion are you?

I won't answer anything now. I want to know your motives first, and then maybe I will answer your questions.[/quote:75df2]

My motives are to understand your thinking. You seem not to accept TOE because it's not proven 100%...I ask these questions to see why.

 

[Featherbop]

[quote="Darck Marck":77398][quote="The Tuatha'an":77398]Marck, just some cross-exmaninatory questions.

1)How old do you think the earth is?

2)Do you not believe anything that can't be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt?

3)Do you accept the Theory of Relativities explanation for how gravity works?

4)What religion are you?

I won't answer anything now. I want to know your motives first, and then maybe I will answer your questions.[/quote:77398]

My motives are to understand your thinking. You seem not to accept TOE because it's not proven 100%...I ask these questions to see why.[/quote:77398]

I beleive in many things that are not 100% proven, and some that are. That really isn't my beef with evolutionary theorys. Something doesn't need to be 100% proven, or be proven to everyone in order for me to beleive it.

 

[Guest]

Where was keebs wrong?[/b]

:P Oh' you didn't just go there? Look at his work here.
Look at what he says. Oh',but you agree with his thinking.
ooops',I must have forgotten for a sec.

 

[keebs]

Yes, where was I wrong? The only thing that was wrong with what I posted is that you weren't able to understand it...

 

[Guest]

How does evolution refute itself?

8-) 1. No evidence
2. No logic
3. No science
4. huge gaps
5. pagan religious roots
6. Hoax's
7. No evidence

 

[Guest]

Yes, where was I wrong? The only thing that was wrong with what I posted is that you weren't able to understand it...

8-) Just because I don't agree with your religion or understand
your peculiar language is no reason to judge me.
You make no appeal to logic,and nothing you have claimed has
ever been documented.
I wish one of you would answer my questions finally.
Where is your evidence that any christians said the world
was flat,and who were they?

 

[keebs]

1. Plenty of evidence: Fossils, observations, genetic comparisons...
2. Completely logical. What part isn't?
3. Science by definition.
4. Where?
5. I thought you would've gotten over this already. Modern evolutionary theory has nothing to do with paganism.
6. Everything has a hoax of one kind or another. An example of a hoax in evolutionary theory are Haekel's embryos. But, a hoax does not mean that a theory is wrong, because the hoax is wrong.
7. Once again, plenty of evidence.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Keebs, do you realize that most of Evolutions evidence has been miscalculated or proven wrong. In truth, there are as many holes in evolution as there are in creation. Except we Christians have faith, what you guys call "God in the Gaps", to complete our method. You can refute that as much as you want, when Jesus returns you'll see how wrong you are.

 

[Guest]

1. Plenty of evidence: Fossils, observations, genetic comparisons...
2. Completely logical. What part isn't?
3. Science by definition.
4. Where?
5. I thought you would've gotten over this already. Modern evolutionary theory has nothing to do with paganism.
6. Everything has a hoax of one kind or another. An example of a hoax in evolutionary theory are Haekel's embryos. But, a hoax does not mean that a theory is wrong, because the hoax is wrong.
7. Once again, plenty of evidence.

:roll: Once again,lets do this right.
1. Fossils support the bible. fabricated observations by evolutionists have
not been proven to occur. Fossils show that we still have the same species.
2. DNA supports a creator and matches scripture. DNA is very useful to us.
DNA proves evolution is a fairytale,a mere fable.
3. modern evolution ideas came from ancient pagans,and it's a modern new age tale that came from ancient ages.
4.DNA helps free innocent people of crimes they were accused of doing,and it helps put the real criminals in jail or prison.
5. DNA proves that we are all one of a kind.
6. Jesus Christ has so many witnesses that they cannot all be counted.
Jesus's witnesses are past,present and future,evolution has no witnesses.
7. The bible explains creation,but evolution cannot.
8. Creation testifies that there is a God,evolution cannot be tested or
repeated. Creation repeats itself as it always has done by God's design.
God has the evidence,and TOE has none.
God is logic,TOE is fictious and childish.,and totally irresponsible.
God believes in order and righteousness,TOE believes in none of that.
The Bible says man is in a fallen condition,TOE doesn't admit that.
The Bible say we are made fearfully and wonderfully,TOE will have none
of that either.
The Bible says that life has a devine purpose,not true of TOE.
The bible teaches us to be careful,TOE is careless.

 

[Guest]

Keebs, do you realize that most of Evolutions evidence has been miscalculated or proven wrong. In truth, there are as many holes in evolution as there are in creation. Except we Christians have faith, what you guys call "God in the Gaps", to complete our method. You can refute that as much as you want, when Jesus returns you'll see how wrong you are.

8-) Not only do we have faith,we have an explanation,unlike TOE.
God tells us how the world was made and all the living. Toe cannot.
God says man sins willing,TOE says man cannot help his/her animal
urges. God says that man is seperate from the animals and he let man
name all the animals. Animals did not name themselves.
Toe believes that we all came from the animal kingdom.
God makes a clear distinction between right and wrong. Toe cannot.
In a nut shell,TOE believes that man is not responsible for what he/she
does whether those who claim to believe in it admit to it or not.
many who claim that there is no God do not accept what the bible says
about the fool. It is the "FOOL" that says in his heart that there is no God.

 

[Blazin Bones]

Very true Blueeyeliner, I was just being simple for the sake of discussion.

 

[Guest]

Very true Blueeyeliner, I was just being simple for the sake of discussion.

:D I know that. You have a very good handle on the truth.
You are very patient and understanding. Those are good traits
to have. You have great style.

 

[Asimov]

Keebs, do you realize that most of Evolutions evidence has been miscalculated or proven wrong. In truth, there are as many holes in evolution as there are in creation. Except we Christians have faith, what you guys call "God in the Gaps", to complete our method. You can refute that as much as you want, when Jesus returns you'll see how wrong you are.

Hahaha...Brutus, I love how you make statements without backing them up.

 

[Asimov]

Very true Blueeyeliner, I was just being simple for the sake of discussion.

:D I know that. You have a very good handle on the truth.
You are very patient and understanding. Those are good traits
to have. You have great style.

It's interesting how anyone who agrees with you is such an awesome person, and anyone who disagrees is a bad person.

Hypocracy, fallacy, assumptions.

You are a joke.

 

[Asimov]

[quote="The Tuatha'an":41a74][quote="Darck Marck":41a74][quote="The Tuatha'an":41a74]Marck, just some cross-exmaninatory questions.

1)How old do you think the earth is?

2)Do you not believe anything that can't be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt?

3)Do you accept the Theory of Relativities explanation for how gravity works?

4)What religion are you?

I won't answer anything now. I want to know your motives first, and then maybe I will answer your questions.[/quote:41a74]

My motives are to understand your thinking. You seem not to accept TOE because it's not proven 100%...I ask these questions to see why.[/quote:41a74]

I beleive in many things that are not 100% proven, and some that are. That really isn't my beef with evolutionary theorys. Something doesn't need to be 100% proven, or be proven to everyone in order for me to beleive it.[/quote:41a74]

That was just one question, can you answer the others please?

 

[Asimov]

Not only do we have faith,we have an explanation,unlike TOE.

Made up explanations.

God tells us how the world was made and all the living. Toe cannot.

Wrong. TOE does not, because it's biology.

God says man sins willing,TOE says man cannot help his/her animal
urges.

TOE has nothing to do with mans "sins" or "urges".

God makes a clear distinction between right and wrong. Toe cannot.
In a nut shell,TOE believes that man is not responsible for what he/she
does whether those who claim to believe in it admit to it or not.

No it doesn't, it makes no mention of responsibilities.

many who claim that there is no God do not accept what the bible says
about the fool. It is the "FOOL" that says in his heart that there is no God

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Good job, using the bible to prove the bible... :roll:

 

[Guest]

[quote="Brutus/HisCatalyst":cc313]Keebs, do you realize that most of Evolutions evidence has been miscalculated or proven wrong. In truth, there are as many holes in evolution as there are in creation. Except we Christians have faith, what you guys call "God in the Gaps", to complete our method. You can refute that as much as you want, when Jesus returns you'll see how wrong you are.

Hahaha...Brutus, I love how you make statements without backing them up.[/quote:cc313]

:roll: He does an excellent job of backing himself up,unlike you.
His patience just drives you mad doesn't it?

 

[Guest]

[quote="Brutus/HisCatalyst":476f2]Very true Blueeyeliner, I was just being simple for the sake of discussion.

:D I know that. You have a very good handle on the truth.
You are very patient and understanding. Those are good traits
to have. You have great style.

It's interesting how anyone who agrees with you is such an awesome person, and anyone who disagrees is a bad person.

Hypocracy, fallacy, assumptions.

You are a joke.[/quote:476f2]

8-) When did I say that? Brutus really knows God,and he is much
sweeter to you and the others who don't agree with him.
He has patience with all of you. His maturity is alot like destiny's is.
They have the christian attitude of gentleness and they don't let you
get them into heated arguments that go no where.
Their style is to be appreciated here.
The only reason I pay any attention to you all at all the way I do is
because I feel sorry for you,but none of the christians really have to
do that given the bible's description of the godless mind.
Brutus is a very good person.

 

[Guest]

Wrong. TOE does not, because it's biology.

:wink: So now it's biology again,huh?
Don't you ever learn?
First you claim TOE is this,then you claim it's that.
You just can't stick to any one story can you?
You try to use TOE to back up TOE but you can't
so you add more stuff to it that make just as much
non-sense if not more than the tales you told before.
TOE cannot even back itself up with TOE,much less
anything else.

 

[Blazin Bones]

http://www.answersingenesis.org[/url]. There's a book I borrowed from the campus library which will also provided you with yet another source, unfortunately I can't remember it's exact title so I'll post that tommorrow.