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Dating a mormon?

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So i know a very nice girl who is very smart, fun, funny, attractive inside and out, and we are both very interested in eachother, but i have yet to do anything about it because she's a mormon. Is it wrong to date her? I'd like some feedback here, please don't just say yes or no because that gets me nowhere, i'd like to see whatever you have to say supported by logic and scripture. And if it means anything she's more or less mormon by association, not very active in it's practice and doubts much of the theology.
 
the boy i like and have liked for over a year is a mormon. my parents just accept this. we are all Gods kids!
 
sparksfly said:
the boy i like and have liked for over a year is a mormon. my parents just accept this. we are all Gods kids!

Woah, hold on just a minute. I have been carefully examining the mormon faith as of late and i can garuntee you that the god that they worship and are subject to is not by any stretch of the imagination the same God that you and i worship.

They believe that god was once a man, as human as any of us, who earned his way into being a god. They believe that god is one of many gods. They believe that we may become as god is. They believe that god has flesh and bones and is as tangible as you and i. They do not believe in the trinity. Make no mistake sister, that is not our God.

Our God is divine, was divine, and always will be divine, never once a mortal. Our God is the one and only, the Alpha and Omega the beginning and the end, the one who was, and is, and is to come. Our Father God is intangible. Our God is one entity that manifests itself in three equal forms, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Perhaps most importantly, our God is so much greater than you and i that we never have even the slightest of chance of earning equality with him.
 
prox., you are very right to realize that a mormon does not worship the same God you and I do. Just because the call themselves Christian doesn't mean they are. Sparks, I suggest you study their faith as well. Perhaps you can be light to this person, but I would not advise a relationship.
 
Proximity said:
So i know a very nice girl who is very smart, fun, funny, attractive inside and out, and we are both very interested in eachother, but i have yet to do anything about it because she's a mormon. Is it wrong to date her? I'd like some feedback here, please don't just say yes or no because that gets me nowhere, i'd like to see whatever you have to say supported by logic and scripture. And if it means anything she's more or less mormon by association, not very active in it's practice and doubts much of the theology.


YEAH,,,,,,,ONE PROBLEM WITH THAT.......

"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, 'I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate," says the Lord. 'and do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you. And I will be a Father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,' Says the Lord Almighty".(2 Cor 6:14-18).
 
I would not advise a relationship. God should be at the centre of the relationship - how can that be when she's Mormon?
 
Maybe you could lead her to Christ and then date her?
 
Hello,

I am a Mormon (LDS). I love Christ and know he is my savior and redeemer. I know god lives and he is almighty. You are right. Our view of Christ and god is VERY Different. But that does not mean we don't believe in Christ. Our entire religion resolves around Christ. Christ is our savior of our souls, the lamb of god, the prince of peace. He saves us all through his atonement on the conditions of repentance and following his commandments.

I am 18 years old about to go on a mission for the Mormons. I have seen much of the world, I have many friends not of my faith, we support and build each other. I never shove my beliefs down their throat. When they ask I will answer. Sometimes I am scared to share my beliefs because of rejection or being made fun of.
But in truth, I have prayed and I have gained a testimony that I know what you are about to read is true and i believe it. Please no negative comments because this is very close to me. As for dating a Mormon, ask all the questions you want many things will be cleared up, and you'll find that there is nothing terrible and evil in us. We are normal people who love normal things. We have strict laws (no drinking, sex before marriage, etc.) because we believe in modern day prophets.

We do respect and value many truths in other religions. If a mormon is rude or a hypocrite, is because they are sinning and not following what our gospel teaches. I am sorry if this ever happens to you. No man is ever perfect. That is why we come here to earth, to be tested and tried, to see if we can repent and come unto christ. As for your friend, If she doubts many of the beliefs, still ask her the questions, see how well she can answer them. If I am correct, she has been raised in the church? If she has she should be able to answer each question. (As long as she is honest in what she says) Don't make your friend feel embarrassed or bad, make it really cool and smooth, but to the point. It is really hard to say what your religion is sometimes to some people.

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Here is the spill by spill of what we believe feel free to ask any questions: (I have left references to some scriptures in the Book of Mormon of our teachings. Feel free to ask your friend if you need them, If she is your friend, she should be happy to give them to you, if she refuses, try to find them somewhere else.)(the scripture references I left are online. you need to scroll down and see the highlighted text to find the appropriate verse)

This is a sharing of our beliefs, I am not asking anyone here to believe. Just for some education. I personally know that this is true. I know it with all my heart.

Mormon doctrine is based on what we call the plan of salvation.

We are participants in Heavenly Father's plan, and our eternal experience can be divided into three main parts: premortal life, mortal life, and life after death. As we come to understand the plan, we find answers to questions asked by so many: Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go after this life?

Premortal Life

Before we were born on the earth, we lived in the presence of our Heavenly Father as one of His spirit children. In this premortal existence, we attended a council with Heavenly Father's other spirit children. At that council, Heavenly Father presented His great plan of happiness (see Abraham 3:22–26).

In harmony with the plan of happiness, the premortal Jesus Christ, the Firstborn Son of the Father in the spirit, covenanted to be the Savior (see Moses 4:2; Abraham 3:27). Those who followed Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ were permitted to come to the earth to experience mortality and progress toward eternal life. Lucifer, another spirit son of God, rebelled against the plan and "sought to destroy the agency of man" (Moses 4:3). He became Satan, and he and his followers were cast out of heaven and denied the privileges of receiving a physical body and experiencing mortality (see Moses 4:4; Abraham 3:27–28).

Throughout our premortal lives, we developed our identity and increased our spiritual capabilities. Blessed with the gift of agency, we made important decisions, such as the decision to follow Heavenly Father's plan. These decisions affected our life then and now. We grew in intelligence and learned to love the truth, and we prepared to come to the earth, where we could continue to progress.

Mortal Life

We are now experiencing mortal life. Our spirits are united with our bodies, giving us opportunities to grow and develop in ways that were not possible in premortal life. This part of our existence is a time of learning in which we can prove ourselves, choose to come unto Christ, and prepare to be worthy of eternal life. It is also a time when we can help others find the truth and gain a testimony of the plan of salvation.

Life after Death

When we die, our spirits will enter the spirit world and await the resurrection. At the time of the resurrection, our spirit and body will reunite, and we will be judged and received into a kingdom of glory. The glory we inherit will depend on the depth of our conversion and our obedience to the Lord's commandments (see Kingdoms of Glory). It will depend on the manner in which we have "received the testimony of Jesus" (D&C 76:51; see also D&C 76:74, 79, 101).

Blessings through Knowledge of the Plan

A testimony of the plan of salvation can give us hope and purpose as we wrestle with the challenges of life. We can find reassurance in the knowledge that we are children of God and that we lived in His presence before being born on the earth. We can find meaning in our present life, knowing that our actions during mortality influence our eternal destiny. With this knowledge, we can base important decisions on eternal truths rather than on the changing circumstances of life. We can continually improve our relationships with family members, rejoicing in the promise that our families can be eternal. We can find joy in our testimonies of the Atonement and the Lord's commandments, ordinances, covenants, and doctrines, knowing that "he who doeth the works of righteousness shall receive his reward, even peace in this world, and eternal life in the world to come" (D&C 59:23).

It is not pride or thinking man is high and mightly. It is a knowledge that all of mankind have a heritage. If god created us, aren't we his children? If we are his children, wouldn't he love us just like a father loves his children?

Anyways,
Thanks for your post and best of luck. Thanks everyone for your positive comments. I hope we can learn to share beliefs with each other.

John
 
I have dated a Mormon, and I in no way advise it.
Now, because I am aware of this threads age, I shall not go into any detail right now.
However, if anyone wants to know why I hold this stance against non-Mormons dating Mormons, feel free to ask.
 
JeffShott said:
I have dated a Mormon, and I in no way advise it.
Now, because I am aware of this threads age, I shall not go into any detail right now.
However, if anyone wants to know why I hold this stance against non-Mormons dating Mormons, feel free to ask.
Yes, the thread is old, but the issue is stil relevent today, to many people. Feel free to expand. :)
 
Nick said:
JeffShott said:
I have dated a Mormon, and I in no way advise it.
Now, because I am aware of this threads age, I shall not go into any detail right now.
However, if anyone wants to know why I hold this stance against non-Mormons dating Mormons, feel free to ask.
Yes, the thread is old, but the issue is still relevant today, to many people. Feel free to expand. :)

Any Mormon who is looking to be in a serious relationship with you will attempt to convert you, as will their family (from my experience). This experience can be very awkward, and obviously a major stress on the relationship. You shouldn't not date a Mormon unless you either plan on 1) not having a successful relationship or 2) converting. I know that it is not fair to use stereotypes in any situation, but this was my experience:

I started out having a great relationship with her, until her parents met me. Her parents (namely her father) grew to hate me. They saw me as nothing but a threat of their daughter's conversion and a threat to her well being. They claimed that I would only lead he on, and not would eventually break up with her and break her heart (which is ironic because they actually ended our relationship themselves). I was referred to by derogatory religious terms and was not allowed to meet with her outside of school for the last 5 months of our relationship.

Furthermore, Paul tells us not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers (which I'm sure has already been brought up in this thread). And, however much they will state that they are Christians -- they are not. In fact, one of their own Presidents is recorded in an interview saying that they do not believe in the same Jesus we do. Also, they are polytheists.

I would advise dating a Mormon about as quickly as I would advise dating a Pagan..
 
JeffShott said:
Nick said:
JeffShott said:
I have dated a Mormon, and I in no way advise it.
Now, because I am aware of this threads age, I shall not go into any detail right now.
However, if anyone wants to know why I hold this stance against non-Mormons dating Mormons, feel free to ask.
Yes, the thread is old, but the issue is still relevant today, to many people. Feel free to expand. :)

Any Mormon who is looking to be in a serious relationship with you will attempt to convert you, as will their family (from my experience). This experience can be very awkward, and obviously a major stress on the relationship. You shouldn't not date a Mormon unless you either plan on 1) not having a successful relationship or 2) converting. I know that it is not fair to use stereotypes in any situation, but this was my experience:

I started out having a great relationship with her, until her parents met me. Her parents (namely her father) grew to hate me. They saw me as nothing but a threat of their daughter's conversion and a threat to her well being. They claimed that I would only lead he on, and not would eventually break up with her and break her heart (which is ironic because they actually ended our relationship themselves). I was referred to by derogatory religious terms and was not allowed to meet with her outside of school for the last 5 months of our relationship.

Furthermore, Paul tells us not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers (which I'm sure has already been brought up in this thread). And, however much they will state that they are Christians -- they are not. In fact, one of their own Presidents is recorded in an interview saying that they do not believe in the same Jesus we do. Also, they are polytheists.

I would advise dating a Mormon about as quickly as I would advise dating a Pagan..
I completely agree.
Many mormons claim to be Christian, but after studying their beliefs for even a little bit, it is very soon apparant that they are not at all Christian.
Relationships like bf/gf and marraige need to be between two believers, not one believe and one un-believer, as Christ needs to be at the centre, and they need to be building each other up in their walk with God. This can only happen if both are Christians, as examples such as Jeff's and many others can testify to.

Thanks Jeff. :) And I agree, dating a mormon is just as dangerous (very) as dating a JW, athiest, muslim, or whatever.

But it is not to say that we can't be friends with them. I think some people go too far and think that Paul means we cannot have a friendship with them. We need to be wittnesses to them, but at a relationship level, it is too dangerous to our faith.
 
Yeah I am sort of in the same situation too unfortunatly :bigfrown


I just figuered out last night that my girlfriend has never been baptized, but she stills believes in God and everything. What do you guys think of that?
 
7ruth said:
Yeah I am sort of in the same situation too unfortunatly :bigfrown


I just figuered out last night that my girlfriend has never been baptized, but she stills believes in God and everything. What do you guys think of that?

Hey 7ruth, we are pretty much in the same boat.

My girlfriend has never been baptized (which may be the reason why she doesn't exactly have a zeal for Christ), and she has mixed-up religious veiws because of her family. :/

Good news though, she plans on getting baptized after she reads the bible cover-to-cover and finds a good Church (and actually wants me to be the one to baptize her ^.^).

Anyways, enough of me, back to you.

Well, when you say she still believes in God, to what extent? Is she a Christian, or just a Theist Agnostic?

And, not being baptized is a problem that you can help her solve. Do you know why she hasn't? Does she have anything against it? Do your religious veiws differ?
 
JeffShott said:
7ruth said:
Well, when you say she still believes in God, to what extent? Is she a Christian, or just a Theist Agnostic?

Yeah she is a christian.

And, not being baptized is a problem that you can help her solve. Do you know why she hasn't? Does she have anything against it? Do your religious veiws differ?

Well, she definently isn't against it, her parents just aren't thats religiose I guess, and she tells me that her Dad's views are a little bizzare. Also they rarely go to church.

How do you baptize someone? Because said she would love it if I baptized her :)
 
See Jeff....thanks for bumping the thread! :)

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I see the issue of being baptised has come up - how interesting considering we were talking about this in bible study yesterday.

I assume we're talking about water baptisms?

The act of being baptised does not make you any more of a Christian than someone who has not been baptised. If it did, then it would take away of the whole gospel message of God's free Grace.

Being baptised with water/oil etc or being confimred if you're in the Anglican church) is usually done after one becmes a Christian - that is, after one is baptised with the Holy Spirit. It is usually done so that person can publically decleare their allegience for Christ and their committment to their faith.

So it's not essential to be saved at all, but the symbolism of doing it may help one be more 'fired up' for Christ ,but the act itself does absolutely nothing.

I'm not sure if someone can just go an baptise someone or if a pastor has to do it. That's a good question. I know in some churches this could become a legalistic question, but as mentioned above, it's more of a public thing, so it would probably be better if a pastor did it. (there's no reason why you couldn't be baptised with her!). Actually that's a good idea - get baptised together. You can get baptised an unlimited amount of times. It may spur both of you on in living for Christ.

ABout her father/family having some weired ideas, are they Christian, but just obscure, or are they mormons, JW's etc?
 
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