What's new
By:
Filters
Christian Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Did Enoch die?

Kevin

Kevin

Member
It is frequently taught that Enoch never died, but is true? The Bible says,

Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Everyone will die and Enoch was no exception. In Hebrews 11 it lists the men of faith and their actions, one of these men was Enoch:

Heb 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

After listing Enoch, Isaac, Abraham, etc. it then says,

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith,

So according to this Enoch died. So my question is this: What does it mean that Enoch "should not see death"? I'm not asking because I think I have the answer and I'm waiting to spring it on you. I really want to know. Did he not see his death coming? Is death an entity (Grim Reaper type of angel)? I don't know.

Also, some of my other posts have received some mocking sarcasm. I can take a little scorn, but for your own sake be careful how you treat a brother in Christ.
 
This is a good question brother, which I have pondered before. A riddle first before i answer. :)

Who's the oldest man in the Bible?

Wrong. It's not Methuselah, it would be Enoch, lol. For he has not died that I know of. I and some others that I have read about lean to the theory that Enoch could be one of the two witnesses spoken of in revelation and so will see his earthly death then. It's possible I suppose.

Edited to Add; I just read Hebrews 11 and it does indeed seem to indicate that Enoch died in faith, but where and how is not given. Hmmm. You got me stumped now brother. I will watch this thread with interest for your theory on this. :)
 
Last edited:
Both Enoch and Elijah did not die, and are the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3 & 6, that are killed in v7.
Heb 9:27 will eventually take effect in their lives.
 
Hebrews 11:5...He was translated SO HE WOULD NOT SEE DEATH

Enoch was translated that he should not see death
Enoch was translated that he should not see death

No death for Enoch...He was translated...no confusion...simple straight forward...clear as a bell. Elijah also...caught up...no death for either of them (Edited and removed, ToS 2.4. Obadiah.)

In His love

brother Paul
 
Last edited by a moderator:
II Kings is one of my favorite books this piece gives me goosebumps..

II Kings 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.

tob
 
Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 1 Corinthians 15:51 KJV

But listen, I tell you this secret: We will not all die, but we will all be changed. 1 Corinthians 15:51 ERV
 
Genesis 5
21 Enoch lived sixty-five years, and begot Methuselah.
22 After he begot Methuselah, Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and had sons and daughters.
23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.

Hebrews 11
5 By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death,“and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

1 Corinthians 15
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.


Enoch didn't die nor is he ever going to die.
.
 
As this thread is less than 24 hours old and I have already had to remove an inflamatory comment, please keep ToS 2.4 in mind when posting. All of you agreed to follow the Terms Of Service when you signed up to be members here.


2.4: No Trolling. Do not make an inflammatory remark just to get a response. Address issues not personalities. Respect where people are in their spiritual walk, and respect all others in general. Respect where others are in their spiritual walk, do not disrupt the flow of discussion or act in a way that affects others negatively including when debating doctrinal issues, in the defense of the Christian faith, and in offering unwelcome spiritual advice.

It is a violation to misquote or misrepresent another member. Do not flood a forum or thread with similar posts, or many posts in succession. Allow others a chance to speak and be heard. If you are responding to multiple posts in the same thread, please consider using the multi-quote feature. Please refrain from taking a thread too far off topic. Slight tangents are ok, but we prefer to keep threads as they have been defined in the OP (Original Post).
 
Gary said:
Genesis 5
21 Enoch lived sixty-five years, and begot Methuselah.
22 After he begot Methuselah, Enoch walked with God three hundred years, and had sons and daughters.
23 So all the days of Enoch were three hundred and sixty-five years.
24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.

Hebrews 11
5 By faith Enoch was taken away so that he did not see death,“and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

1 Corinthians 15
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.


Enoch didn't die nor is he ever going to die.
.
Click to expand...

I'm on the fence on this one Gary. I was thinking exactly like you are about it for awhile, then the rest of the Hebrews 11 scripture, as well as a sermon I heard which indicated that Enoch would likely be one of the two witnesses (and we know they will be killed and lay in the street for 3 days) both made me wonder about it. A little confused on this is Edward, lol.

Could it be that Hebrews 11:5 is talking about when Enoch was translated...they were after him right then to kill him, remember? (That he should not see death from those guys...) So God took him, and perhaps he will die later? Speculation on my part brother...
 
Edward said:
I'm on the fence on this one Gary. I was thinking exactly like you are about it for awhile, then the rest of the Hebrews 11 scripture, as well as a sermon I heard which indicated that Enoch would likely be one of the two witnesses (and we know they will be killed and lay in the street for 3 days) both made me wonder about it. A little confused on this is Edward, lol.

Could it be that Hebrews 11:5 is talking about when Enoch was translated...they were after him right then to kill him, remember? (That he should not see death from those guys...) So God took him, and perhaps he will die later? Speculation on my part brother...
Click to expand...

Why does Enoch have to die?
.
 
When the Lord returns, an entire group of living people will be caught up into the clouds, and changed.

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 1 Thessalonians 4:17a NIV
 
Plus Lazarus was raised from the dead. He died twice, unless he is still alive today. Ditto for other mortals who were raised back to life.
 
Gary said:
Why does Enoch have to die?
.
Click to expand...

Ultimately he doesn't, however, my thought is the scripture which says it is appointed unto man to die once, so he may have too. Or may not, point well taken. God is God and will do as pleases Him and without argument from me, lol.
 
So has Enoch already inherited?

I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 NIV

You may be right. I never really thought about it. Enoch may have been changed en route.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top