Did God create sin?

[xounstaer]

another item:

the sin was inside what eva ate and gace adam to, right or not.
if so then there was sin before even eating.
the snake/snal/serpent was just telling truth and the desire of eve for fairness and equality. made it to let her do as the snake said.
but i really believe it is more a form of filosofy when it comes to the trees.
filosofy as in vison upon.

 

[childeye]

i believe sin in some way is a partical required for progress, this has been said in different ways before though.

for the rest you surely know the reasoning good need bad and the other way around otherwise neither would be. and no matter how perfect the world in the future might get. certainly to each person itself new sins will pop in mind even if first you didnt consider them or so sas sin.

god is all right?
so any action or any being is part of god and/or created by god.
but never loose the eye or focus on whatfor..

Well said except for one point. I am sure we need bad to define good but once being defined, I do believe it is possible to have only good without bad, In the New heavens and Earth there will be no darkness and no sin as I understand it.

 

[childeye]

another item:

the sin was inside what eva ate and gace adam to, right or not.
if so then there was sin before even eating.
the snake/snal/serpent was just telling truth and the desire of eve for fairness and equality. made it to let her do as the snake said.
but i really believe it is more a form of filosofy when it comes to the trees.
filosofy as in vison upon.

Scripture says sin began in Satan because he became vain and this vanity became sin. Adam and Eve were already equal though they were tricked into believing they were not.

 

[xounstaer]

so they started thinking and got confused while there was actually no reason?
i meant equal to god but i supose you got that, sry

i actually see no sin in there concretaly. so maybe it's just the thought of having commited a sin that got it going.
so the only reason why a sin was commited is then because god forbidden it, right?

i listend once to the evengelic tv station here/program. and if i remember right they said who is it to say which you cant touch or eat because one says so.
pual leaves a few words to it too.

 

[xounstaer]

Well said except for one point. I am sure we need bad to define good but once being defined, I do believe it is possible to have only good without bad, In the New heavens and Earth there will be no darkness and no sin as I understand it.

u mean a utopy.

if it then is the sin that finally led us to that through by and through.
then the question remains who is gonna bare the sin that caused that.
the sin of disobedience then it would be.

to me i think i would have my conscience going over that before simply just accepting the utopy..hm

to me i thin i would erase or have many black history pages to reminice over in the back of my conscience then.
and truly if all is good then to me pages and happenings must or be forgotten or to be taken the exact correct right and FULLY way.
x

 

[childeye]

so they started thinking and got confused while there was actually no reason?
i meant equal to god but i supose you got that, sry

i actually see no sin in there concretaly. so maybe it's just the thought of having commited a sin that got it going.
so the only reason why a sin was commited is then because god forbidden it, right?

i listend once to the evengelic tv station here/program. and if i remember right they said who is it to say which you cant touch or eat because one says so.
pual leaves a few words to it too.

Sin is walking in hypocrisy because one does not esteem God as God. The vanity is taking God's attributes unto yourself in pride thinking you are better or less than others according to what attributes one possesses. Sin is a direction away from God who is Love. The reason I say hypocrisy above is because when you do to others what you would not want done to you, you are a hypocrit. Eve wanted to better herself because the Serpent convinced her that she could, when in fact she was already perfect as God had made her. The carnal mind is all about being better than others in competition which is hypocritical at the outset.

 

[Bonairos]

Back to topic please.

Again, forgive me for straying. I pondered the Subject to be God.

I thought, "What a cool foundation to begin dialog with? What's better than knowing . . . He's God?!" He's God all by Himself. Was. Is. Forever will be.

Then I thought, "If we can't agree on point A, Why get ahead of ourselves and entangle ourselves with point B?"

Again, my apologies. I have my answer.



Be blessed, Stay blessed, and be Bold!

 

[childeye]

u mean a utopy.

if it then is the sin that finally led us to that through by and through.
then the question remains who is gonna bare the sin that caused that.
the sin of disobedience then it would be.

to me i think i would have my conscience going over that before simply just accepting the utopy..hm

to me i thin i would erase or have many black history pages to reminice over in the back of my conscience then.
and truly if all is good then to me pages and happenings must or be forgotten or to be taken the exact correct right and FULLY way.
x

Since sin was initiated by the serpent fooling the woman we need not be condemned if in fact we don't condemn others. The real fault of man was that he distrusted God. The serpent was cunning and said that God did not want mankind to have the knowledge because then their eyes would be open and they would know good and evil and be like God. This paints an image of God in the mind of the gullible of a God that is selfserving and keeping others down so that He alone is knowledgable. Everything the Serpent said was technically true but he failed to mention that God was looking out for us and keeping us safe in our innocence. Hence a false image of god was implanted in the minds of men. A satanic image. And because we trusted in this false image it justified in our minds disobedience and we ate. We are all guilty of this yet most people don't know it. They think we have free wills according to the way most people define freewill. In realiy our wills were compromised by this false image coupled with the knowledge of good and evil.

 

[xounstaer]

comprimised in what way?
get to point B?

i gues thats low and i want to go to C..

 

[childeye]

comprimised in what way?
get to point B?

i gues thats low and i want to go to C..

That's pretty funny.

There are many ways we were compromised. We judge what is right and wrong according to what we think God would say. A corrupt and impure image of God impairs that outlook and we become morally the same as the image we believe in. The image of a selfserving god who creates slaves out of his creatures causes us to become exactly that. We want to be the boss rather than the servant. We want to be rich and this is in comparison to others in a carnal competition.

The knowledge of good and evil brings forth judgment. We see faults in others but are blind to our own, hypocrisy. And we think others are busy finding our faults also, distrust. Hence we sought coverings and hid from God. When I was a kid my older brother played a game with me and beat me badly. I got so mad I never played the game again because I never wanted to feel that black rage again. Cain killed Abel in this same spirit of darkness.

In truth discerning all the ways we have been compromised would be exhaustive. There is jealousy or envy, desire to steal, to hate, despair, selfloathing, pride, boasting, blame, condemnation, over zealous prosecution,self righteousness, glee at seeing others fail or hurt themselves. As the bible says, all is vanity.

I would rather get to the Christ, the True Image of God that washes away the corrupt image. Here God comes down to become sin for us that we might be the rightousness of God. It is like becoming the loser so we can be winners. Looking upon him on the cross does not make winning feel as great as we had imagined. Seeing that God is not selfserving as Satan had implied changes everything. Since we have a True and incorruptible Image of God we become like Him just as we had become like the false image. This is the difference between the children of Satan and the children of God. Of course we must walk in the Spirit of Christ and for that we have the Holy Spirit that convicts us of sin and turns us in the right direction. Pride is the enemy for it is not right to boast over the righteousness that was bought for us by the Lamb of God. Oh that prescious Lamb. Blessed be His name upon our ears forever. Jesus.