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Did God ever have a beginning!!

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Mosesjoel

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This is a mystery only God knows and one we can only dwell on.
I have one theory which has not any flaws at the moment and it is my own beleif to understand the enormity of such a challange.
I found this out by looking at a Ying-Yang symbol.[attachment=0:229hzjt1]80px-Yin_and_Yang_svg.png[/attachment:229hzjt1]

It meant when I looked at it 'Creation of Everything'
The Black and white are the two eternal neverending voids of nothings, Black Void and White Void.
The White Dot represented the Universe in the Black Void
The Black Dot represented the Spiritual realm or Heaven in the White Void.
The silver streak in between and all around the black and white 'tadpoles' is God.

Now did God have a beginning, there is a most probable yes now.
These voids could of existed side by side for all eternity, as time and space did not exist, their existance before god must of been 10X-∞ of a second, basically a pause.
Within that eternal pause of time not existing, free radical energy must of existed
The Black void had negative energy
The White Void had positive energy both unaffected of an existance without time.
How I dont now they can exist, but this is unexplainable but not disproven
Both opposites of static energy in both opposite voids,
in that pause a rift happened and both voids connected causing both energies to connect.
When positive and negative become in unity a new energy or entity came into existance, Time (but not space) started. That Energy/Entity grew and developed a conscienceness understanding what He is and how He became and an Intelligence formed and over time became powerful over these two voids of black and white.
But with grewing intelligance this Being found He was alone.
Out of all the abundant energy He newly existed from created a lesser entity.
After learning from all the Parent Entity knew, they become one, but seperate beings.
The Two Entity's mastered their energetic powers and took hold into the White Void and set to work creating their Realm from static energy existing in negative form from the Black Void to Create the Heavenly Realm, and a family of billions of other energy based entities called Angels.
The black void was still vast and empty of nothing.
Using white matter and taking it into the Black void, Galaxies and stars where formed.
This matter formed pure hydrogen, the mother of all eliments and stars shone brightly into the new universe introducing helium as a waste product.
God did not create the Earth till much later.
Stars were given a short lifespan at the time, approx. 7 billion years, but to God it was a short period, when the star ran out of it's hydrogen and began to collapse in on itself and exploded littering the surrounding space with debry new to the Universe, Iron, Metals, Nitrogen, Carbons etc.
These would be the material God and Jesus wanted for his next step in creation to recycle the star waste into new stars and mould planets with the left over waste.
God created the Earth as stated in Genesis, when The Beginning was referring to the Earth's beginning in 6 'eon' periods, which have been coomonly mistaken as days as the hebrew meaning for day was also the same for eon meaning an unknown period of time.

This is my own understanding of Life the Universe and Everything, but science is pushing forward new discovers on anti-matter and dark matter, which may of been the original static energy before the universe was created.... Who knows
:) :)
 
So what is your religion exactly? Because I can tell from this and your other topic it's not biblical Christianity.
 
I am definately Christian,
I have a questioning mind, and 'nothing' cannot make something, only through God.
It is a logical explaination of how anything came to be, but only a theory and not to be taken as blasphormus
:) :)
 
I am unbaptized Jehovah's Witness and I am still learning about God.
thank you for your view points, :)
 
Mosesjoel said:
I am unbaptized Jehovah's Witness and I am still learning about God.
thank you for your view points, :)

Unbaptized? I knew there was something odd about your post, no offence, I just could not place it. I hope you come to know the one true GOD, sorry if I crossed a line I meant no harm.
 
Mosesjoel said:
This is a mystery only God knows and one we can only dwell on.
I have one theory which has not any flaws at the moment and it is my own beleif to understand the enormity of such a challange.
I found this out by looking at a Ying-Yang symbol.[attachment=0:2dzo081u]80px-Yin_and_Yang_svg.png[/attachment:2dzo081u]

It meant when I looked at it 'Creation of Everything'
The Black and white are the two eternal neverending voids of nothings, Black Void and White Void.
The White Dot represented the Universe in the Black Void
The Black Dot represented the Spiritual realm or Heaven in the White Void.
The silver streak in between and all around the black and white 'tadpoles' is God.

Now did God have a beginning, there is a most probable yes now.
These voids could of existed side by side for all eternity, as time and space did not exist, their existance before god must of been 10X-∞ of a second, basically a pause.
Within that eternal pause of time not existing, free radical energy must of existed
The Black void had negative energy
The White Void had positive energy both unaffected of an existance without time.
How I dont now they can exist, but this is unexplainable but not disproven
Both opposites of static energy in both opposite voids,
in that pause a rift happened and both voids connected causing both energies to connect.
When positive and negative become in unity a new energy or entity came into existance, Time (but not space) started. That Energy/Entity grew and developed a conscienceness understanding what He is and how He became and an Intelligence formed and over time became powerful over these two voids of black and white.
But with grewing intelligance this Being found He was alone.
Out of all the abundant energy He newly existed from created a lesser entity.
After learning from all the Parent Entity knew, they become one, but seperate beings.
The Two Entity's mastered their energetic powers and took hold into the White Void and set to work creating their Realm from static energy existing in negative form from the Black Void to Create the Heavenly Realm, and a family of billions of other energy based entities called Angels.
The black void was still vast and empty of nothing.
Using white matter and taking it into the Black void, Galaxies and stars where formed.
This matter formed pure hydrogen, the mother of all eliments and stars shone brightly into the new universe introducing helium as a waste product.
God did not create the Earth till much later.
Stars were given a short lifespan at the time, approx. 7 billion years, but to God it was a short period, when the star ran out of it's hydrogen and began to collapse in on itself and exploded littering the surrounding space with debry new to the Universe, Iron, Metals, Nitrogen, Carbons etc.
These would be the material God and Jesus wanted for his next step in creation to recycle the star waste into new stars and mould planets with the left over waste.
God created the Earth as stated in Genesis, when The Beginning was referring to the Earth's beginning in 6 'eon' periods, which have been coomonly mistaken as days as the hebrew meaning for day was also the same for eon meaning an unknown period of time.

This is my own understanding of Life the Universe and Everything, but science is pushing forward new discovers on anti-matter and dark matter, which may of been the original static energy before the universe was created.... Who knows
:) :)

It's an interesting idea but...
For one thing, as a Christian shouldn't you get your ideas from the Bible?
And
if you believe God is basically a conscious that formed out of the voids, then what is stopping you from believing that we are consciouses that formed out of the void and that it creation simply skipped the whole God aspect?
 
Reido said:
It's an interesting idea but...
For one thing, as a Christian shouldn't you get your ideas from the Bible?
And
if you believe God is basically a conscious that formed out of the voids, then what is stopping you from believing that we are consciouses that formed out of the void and that it creation simply skipped the whole God aspect?

Which is exactly why I wondered just what this persons religion is.
 
God was, is, and always will be.

Ex:3:14: And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

God say's "I AM", period. No beginning, he just is.

:amen
 
The God I serve NEVER had a beginning and has ALWAYS existed. If He suddenly popped into existence at some time, then other gods could do the same thing. There have been and probably still are people who believe in many gods. However, there is only ONE God, and He is from everlasting to everlasting. "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hast formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." Psalm 90:2
 
Jon-Marc said:
The God I serve NEVER had a beginning and has ALWAYS existed. If He suddenly popped into existence at some time, then other gods could do the same thing. There have been and probably still are people who believe in many gods. However, there is only ONE God, and He is from everlasting to everlasting. "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hast formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." Psalm 90:2
:amen
 
B.A.C. gave the answer to the question. God tells us in Exous 3: 14 that he simply is. Nobody made him. He has no beginning. He alone is self aware. Our awareness comes from him. He exists and because of him everything else exists.
 
Mosesjoel said:
This is a mystery only God knows and one we can only dwell on.
I have one theory which has not any flaws at the moment and it is my own beleif to understand the enormity of such a challange.
I found this out by looking at a Ying-Yang symbol.[attachment=0:274un02v]80px-Yin_and_Yang_svg.png[/attachment:274un02v]

It meant when I looked at it 'Creation of Everything'
The Black and white are the two eternal neverending voids of nothings, Black Void and White Void.
The White Dot represented the Universe in the Black Void
The Black Dot represented the Spiritual realm or Heaven in the White Void.
The silver streak in between and all around the black and white 'tadpoles' is God.

Now did God have a beginning, there is a most probable yes now.
These voids could of existed side by side for all eternity, as time and space did not exist, their existance before god must of been 10X-∞ of a second, basically a pause.
Within that eternal pause of time not existing, free radical energy must of existed
The Black void had negative energy
The White Void had positive energy both unaffected of an existance without time.
How I dont now they can exist, but this is unexplainable but not disproven
Both opposites of static energy in both opposite voids,
in that pause a rift happened and both voids connected causing both energies to connect.
When positive and negative become in unity a new energy or entity came into existance, Time (but not space) started. That Energy/Entity grew and developed a conscienceness understanding what He is and how He became and an Intelligence formed and over time became powerful over these two voids of black and white.
But with grewing intelligance this Being found He was alone.
Out of all the abundant energy He newly existed from created a lesser entity.
After learning from all the Parent Entity knew, they become one, but seperate beings.
The Two Entity's mastered their energetic powers and took hold into the White Void and set to work creating their Realm from static energy existing in negative form from the Black Void to Create the Heavenly Realm, and a family of billions of other energy based entities called Angels.
The black void was still vast and empty of nothing.
Using white matter and taking it into the Black void, Galaxies and stars where formed.
This matter formed pure hydrogen, the mother of all eliments and stars shone brightly into the new universe introducing helium as a waste product.
God did not create the Earth till much later.
Stars were given a short lifespan at the time, approx. 7 billion years, but to God it was a short period, when the star ran out of it's hydrogen and began to collapse in on itself and exploded littering the surrounding space with debry new to the Universe, Iron, Metals, Nitrogen, Carbons etc.
These would be the material God and Jesus wanted for his next step in creation to recycle the star waste into new stars and mould planets with the left over waste.
God created the Earth as stated in Genesis, when The Beginning was referring to the Earth's beginning in 6 'eon' periods, which have been coomonly mistaken as days as the hebrew meaning for day was also the same for eon meaning an unknown period of time.

This is my own understanding of Life the Universe and Everything, but science is pushing forward new discovers on anti-matter and dark matter, which may of been the original static energy before the universe was created.... Who knows
:) :)


God is intention of nothing, and we are the intention of God through Christ Jesus.
Dark matter is the clay for the potter as componds turn to elements with the increasing power of God from N to H (NoaH) acid to water from black to white with the rainbow in between.
 
Mosesjoel said:
This is a mystery only God knows and one we can only dwell on.
I have one theory which has not any flaws at the moment ......... Who knows
:) :)
:twocents Your theory is not biblical, it's science fiction through which you are not actually looking for truth, but trying to justify a belief you already have. The pot calling The Potter 'finite'.
 
Hello Mosesjoel,
The Bible is clear as to God, Jehovah, not having a beginning, for, as has been already quoted, Psalms 90:2 says that "before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting (Hebrew ‛oh·lam´, carries the thought of indefinite or uncertain time, hidden time) thou art God."(King James Bible) Psalms 93:2 says that God's "throne was established long ago; you are from all eternity."(Hebrew ‛oh·lam´, New International Version) Isaiah 40:28 speaks of "the everlasting God (Hebrew ’Elo·him´ ‛oh·lam´), Jehovah, the Creator of the ends of the earth."(American Standard Version)

Just as time and space is not bound, extending in either direction indefinitely, without end, so likewise is God, Jehovah. He is the One who established time as a framework for man to have, with the stars, sun and moon serving "as signs and for seasons and for days and years."(Gen 1:14) If we take a mind's journey back in time (or forward), trying to grasp that Jehovah God had no beginning (or end), our head may begin to hurt, for this "trip" will never end. We, as humans, recognizes that all things, with the exception of Jehovah God, had a beginning, including Jesus Christ. (Col 1:15; Rev 3:14) Only Jehovah is without a beginning nor ending, for he does "not die."(Hab 1:12)

After concluding a covenant with Abimelech concerning a "well of water" at Beersheba, Abraham then "planted a tamarisk tree in Beer-sheba, and called there on the name of Jehovah, the Everlasting God." [Hebrew ‛oh·lam´, literally "indefinitely lasting God"](Gen 21:33, American Standard Version)
 
MISFIT said:
So what is your religion exactly? Because I can tell from this and your other topic it's not biblical Christianity.

I have a lot of the space-y thinking, like God came (from who knows where) and made the earth, 7 days-who knows how long he considers a day? and the translation thing too probably did it.
I believe God made evolution, we are not a perfect species and there is evidence to show of it all threw out time (not just with humans but for example-a Mammoth, not around anymore, but we have Elephants...)
 
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