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Did Jesus go to hell after he died on the cross

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I am unsure of what happened to Jesus during the three days he was dead. I am sure he didn't just float around in the cosmos waiting to be brought back to life. Did he preach in hell.
 
Jesus did go to hell for 3 days, which is where all were until He set captivity free. Until Jesus died to take away sin, sin was merely covered and man could still not abide in the presence of God in heaven. Those who were accounted righteous in the O.T. were in the center of the earth in a chamber of saftey called Abraham's Bosom, or paradise.

Mat.12:40
40For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Eph.4:8-10
8Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

Ps.16:10
10For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Ps.68:18
18Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.

Lk.16:19-31
19There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
 
conchoreb said:
So what are we to make of Luke 23:43?

XTruth said:
Jesus did go to hell for 3 days, which is where all were until He set captivity free. Until Jesus died to take away sin, sin was merely covered and man could still not abide in the presence of God in heaven. Those who were accounted righteous in the O.T. were in the center of the earth in a chamber of saftey called Abraham's Bosom, or paradise.

Paradise is 4 things in Scripture.
1-2) Eden is generally referred to as paradise by scholars b/c the Hebrew "pardace" is translated "orchard" (Song of Sol.4:13; Eccl.2:5) and "forest" (Neh.2:8), and seems to describe the garden (Gen.2:8-17). There were 2 Eden's: Lucifer's (Eze.28:11-17) and Adam's.
3) Paradise is the 3rd heaven (2 Cor.12:1-4; Rev.2:7).
4) Paradise was under the earth where the righteous were held against their wills (Lk.16:25; 23:43; Mt.12:40; Eph.4:8-10; Heb.2:14-15).
 
conchoreb said:
So what are we to make of Luke 23:43?

Luke 23:43 (King James Version) "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."

If one accepts the doctrine that when one dies, one falls asleep and doesn't go anywhere, but is actually dead, as the Seventh Day Adventists and others believe, then the idea that one goes to heaven or hell is mute.

So what could Luke 23:43 mean, then?

When you fall asleep at night and wake up in the morning how aware of time are you. The night can seem long, and sometimes it seems as if you just went to bed. Similarly, when one falls asleep in the grave, to wake up at a later date (the first or second resurrection) time is irrevelant. So from the thief on the cross' perspective, he wakes up in Paradise and it seems to him that no passage of time has occurred. And the "Today" that Jesus is referring to could easily be the day of the Lord (one of several - another topic) pointing to the pre-tribulational rapture.

PS Hell is a pagan doctrine introduced into the church around the time of the Council of Nicea, and does not exist.
 
Hello, jsbdpmc

Well replied about Hell, I wrote an article in one of the Forums about hell, it does exist but as a verb meaning to bury.
Jesus was in a state of death sleep whilst in Hydes or Shoel, so had no conscience of being there.
 
jne1991 said:
I am unsure of what happened to Jesus during the three days he was dead. I am sure he didn't just float around in the cosmos waiting to be brought back to life. Did he preach in hell.


It is certainly a mystery. These verses are commonly used to infer that Jesus indeed preached in hades.

1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Pet 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;1 Pet 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
 
jsbdpmc said:
conchoreb said:
So what are we to make of Luke 23:43?

Luke 23:43 (King James Version) "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."

If one accepts the doctrine that when one dies, one falls asleep and doesn't go anywhere, but is actually dead, as the Seventh Day Adventists and others believe, then the idea that one goes to heaven or hell is mute.

So what could Luke 23:43 mean, then?

When you fall asleep at night and wake up in the morning how aware of time are you. The night can seem long, and sometimes it seems as if you just went to bed. Similarly, when one falls asleep in the grave, to wake up at a later date (the first or second resurrection) time is irrevelant. So from the thief on the cross' perspective, he wakes up in Paradise and it seems to him that no passage of time has occurred. And the "Today" that Jesus is referring to could easily be the day of the Lord (one of several - another topic) pointing to the pre-tribulational rapture.

PS Hell is a pagan doctrine introduced into the church around the time of the Council of Nicea, and does not exist.

Gee Whillickers, and all these centuries of worry for nothing?!
 
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