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Earlier today I was talking with someone and we were lamenting that there are some many people out there using pc's who have never known the joy of using a mac. How tragic we thought.

It led me to wonder will there be pc's in heaven? I mean certainly there will be apples in heaven looking back on how we ended up as we have I do not know whether or not it would be prudent to use them..., but the real question is can the windows os computer be saved?
 
How could an apple have an eternal soul and a pc not? I think if you accept one you HAVE to accept the either. Granted, pc's could just be all be condemned to Hell, but I believe God loves all computers regardless of make.
 
A good question is if there are actually any true Linux computers.

Is Linux a tenable operating system for a computer?
 
I think the Linux system therefore must be pure spirit without a physical body. Unlike a Mac or a PC consisting of both spirit and matter.
 
This is actually a great subject, Coin. Maybe it could spin into a separate topic.

On a secular forum dealing with the FOX series, "Terminator: the Sarah Conner Chronicles", the topic of "Cameron and Christianity" dealt with the possibility of whether or not a machine (a cyborg in this case) could have a soul. The actual show deals a lot with Biblical prophecies and redemption itself. How could you not in all fairness when dealing with the subject of the end of the world as we know it?

There are actually some good theological discussions going on and I will post the link if anyone is interested.


So, that is my spinoff question; would God grant a soul to an AI (artificial intelligence) and if yes, why? :robot:


BTW, I am a Linux user. ;-)
 
Well since someone brought the topic up, I will post something I was pondering the other day while reading about AI. (Beware, you may get the opinion that I have too much time to think on my hands.....)

The article (I will try to find it again at some point to cite it) was stating that at the current rate of computer technological advancement, it is possible that at some point, we will have the capability to download the human brain into a computer simulator and recreate you as an AI.

This program will think it is you, act like you, have all of the sum of your expeiriences in life (up to that point of course). Basically, for all practical purposes, you would have just been re-created into a computer.

Of course all of this is theory, so its not entirely clear if it would be possible, but no known boundary exists yet.

The article went on to postulate that it may become the new cryogenic eternal life. At death, or before your body completely wears out, people could pay to be downloaded.

If this were possible, what does it have to say about the soul? From the AI point of view, you did not die. It would just like you went to sleep and woke up inside a computer. It may even be possible at that point to create an android that is human like, and store yourself into that machine. You could walk, talk, feel, etc. just like you were human.

Now, would that version of you contain your original soul, create a new soul just as if a baby had been born, contain no soul, or any other possibility.

Obviously from my posts people realize I do not believe in the concept of a soul, but it is an interesting thing to think about.
 
Obviously from my posts people realize I do not believe in the concept of a soul, but it is an interesting thing to think about.
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I never got that impression. I assumed you just didn't believe in the traditional Christian concept of a soul.

For those of you who don't already know, there has been for many years now, a growing group of researchers trying to prove the existence of human engrams and somehow incorporate them into AI. :o I'm not talking Dianetics here either. ;-)

The original Star Trek series had an episode written around this idea.
 
transfering yourself to a computer.... wow. That would mean your soul would have to be bound tightly with your mind...very tightly. That's difficult to think about. You'd have a copy. You could copy yourself alot of times.

Ever see "The Prestige"? That was really wierd to think about.

I'm guessing the good Lord won't allow these things.
 
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transfering yourself to a computer.... wow. That would mean your soul would have to be bound tightly with your mind...very tightly. That's difficult to think about. You'd have a copy. You could copy yourself alot of times.

Ever see "The Prestige"? That was really wierd to think about.

I'm guessing the good Lord won't allow these things.
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Yeah I saw that, and it was a great movie. Works on your brain at the end.
 
You know that's weird cause the other day was my first time to watch the Bicentennial Man with Robin Williams, and my mind really started wondering myself on the subject.

Kudos HIM,
Carol <><
 
Heh, I forgot that movie even existed. I also forgot what it was about. :oops:
 
It about an android that was given such human emotions that he wanted to grow old, to love, to cry and to marry and be a citizen, and after much effort got his wish.
 
All machine's go to silicon heaven when they die don't they? (Doesn't anyone here ever watch "Red Dwarf"?) Apparently it says in the electronic bible "and the iron shall lie down with the lamp".
 
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