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Do you believe in Baptism ????

dan p

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Hi to all , and have not met anyone who did not , and some hold too it harder than others , especially those that hold to Baptismal Salvation ( Mark 16:15-16 )

1) Who were the Baptizers in the gospels and who gave them that Authority ????

2) We see one Baptizer in Matt 3:2 , And saying , Repent ye , for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand . The only ones I hear preaching this , are the Pentecostal theology .

3) The we see in Matt 28:19 , and the Context is Jews ONLY as referenced in verse 16 . And they ARE told to , Go ye therefore , and teach ALL NATIONS , Baptizing them .

#1 , You have to notice that all these Baptizers ALL DEAD .

#2 , Unless , you ALL believe in APOSTOLIC SECCESSION ???????????

#3 , By what Authority , do Pastor , Baptize ??????

#4 , Where is the verse where Gentile Pastors are given the Authority to Baptize ???????

#5 , This Baptism is under the Preaching of the Kingdom , Matt 3:2 , period !!!

#6 , BUT they is only ONE BAPTISM for the Body of Christ and is found in Eph 4:5 .

#7, And to enter the Body of Christ is referenced in 1 Cor 12:13 !!!

#8 , The problem with the Greek BAPTIZO , it has more than one definition , INDENIFICATION , in 1 Cor 10:2 ; PLACED in 1 Cor 12:13 ; WASHING in Heb 9:10 ; SPRINKLING in Ezek 36:25 .

# 9 , That means that today , there is ONLY ONE Baptism and that is by the Holy Spirit INTO the Body of Christ , because the Apostles NEVER heard about the Body of Christ and is not found in the Gospels .
 
dan p said:
Hi to all , and have not met anyone who did not , and some hold too it harder than others , especially those that hold to Baptismal Salvation ( Mark 16:15-16 )

1) Who were the Baptizers in the gospels and who gave them that Authority ????

2) We see one Baptizer in Matt 3:2 , And saying , Repent ye , for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand . The only ones I hear preaching this , are the Pentecostal theology .

3) The we see in Matt 28:19 , and the Context is Jews ONLY as referenced in verse 16 . And they ARE told to , Go ye therefore , and teach ALL NATIONS , Baptizing them .

#1 , You have to notice that all these Baptizers ALL DEAD .

#2 , Unless , you ALL believe in APOSTOLIC SECCESSION ???????????

#3 , By what Authority , do Pastor , Baptize ??????

#4 , Where is the verse where Gentile Pastors are given the Authority to Baptize ???????

#5 , This Baptism is under the Preaching of the Kingdom , Matt 3:2 , period !!!

#6 , BUT they is only ONE BAPTISM for the Body of Christ and is found in Eph 4:5 .

#7, And to enter the Body of Christ is referenced in 1 Cor 12:13 !!!

#8 , The problem with the Greek BAPTIZO , it has more than one definition , INDENIFICATION , in 1 Cor 10:2 ; PLACED in 1 Cor 12:13 ; WASHING in Heb 9:10 ; SPRINKLING in Ezek 36:25 .

# 9 , That means that today , there is ONLY ONE Baptism and that is by the Holy Spirit INTO the Body of Christ , because the Apostles NEVER heard about the Body of Christ and is not found in the Gospels .

Hi Dan. I agree. As members of the body of Christ, we were identified with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection, this being accomplished by the Holy Spirit.

The keys of the Kingdom given to Peter and the other apostles, was repentence and baptism (in water), just as John the Baptizer first preached, and then Jesus. The "Great Commission" given to Christ's Jewish believers (Matt. 28:19) to "go into all the world and make disciples of all nations..." wasn't even carried out by them them. But, IMO, it will be during the Messianic Kingdom on earth.
 
Bick said:
dan p said:
Hi to all , and have not met anyone who did not , and some hold too it harder than others , especially those that hold to Baptismal Salvation ( Mark 16:15-16 )

1) Who were the Baptizers in the gospels and who gave them that Authority ????

2) We see one Baptizer in Matt 3:2 , And saying , Repent ye , for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand . The only ones I hear preaching this , are the Pentecostal theology .

3) The we see in Matt 28:19 , and the Context is Jews ONLY as referenced in verse 16 . And they ARE told to , Go ye therefore , and teach ALL NATIONS , Baptizing them .

#1 , You have to notice that all these Baptizers ALL DEAD .

#2 , Unless , you ALL believe in APOSTOLIC SECCESSION ???????????

#3 , By what Authority , do Pastor , Baptize ??????

#4 , Where is the verse where Gentile Pastors are given the Authority to Baptize ???????

#5 , This Baptism is under the Preaching of the Kingdom , Matt 3:2 , period !!!

#6 , BUT they is only ONE BAPTISM for the Body of Christ and is found in Eph 4:5 .

#7, And to enter the Body of Christ is referenced in 1 Cor 12:13 !!!

#8 , The problem with the Greek BAPTIZO , it has more than one definition , INDENIFICATION , in 1 Cor 10:2 ; PLACED in 1 Cor 12:13 ; WASHING in Heb 9:10 ; SPRINKLING in Ezek 36:25 .

# 9 , That means that today , there is ONLY ONE Baptism and that is by the Holy Spirit INTO the Body of Christ , because the Apostles NEVER heard about the Body of Christ and is not found in the Gospels .

Hi Dan. I agree. As members of the body of Christ, we were identified with Christ in his death, burial and resurrection, this being accomplished by the Holy Spirit.

The keys of the Kingdom given to Peter and the other apostles, was repentence and baptism (in water), just as John the Baptizer first preached, and then Jesus. The "Great Commission" given to Christ's Jewish believers (Matt. 28:19) to "go into all the world and make disciples of all nations..." wasn't even carried out by them them. But, IMO, it will be during the Messianic Kingdom on earth.

Hi Bick , thanks for your response , and I know that I am going against the majority view .
 
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