Do you think the Church will experience this?

[reba]

and the topic is?

 

[jasonc]

and the topic is?

artillery pieces and idiotic statements by iowa national guardsmen while on duty on op bull run.

 

[Gary]

 

[follower]

and the topic is?

when does Yeshua return? (Hint:He only returns once) this simplifies a great deal in line with Scripture.

 

[tim-from-pa]

Here's a chart I found on Revelation. Seems to make it the most understandable for those of you into futurist interpretation. Notice the dreadful days coming are not one Tribulation but two main parts: 1) the Tribulation of 2.5 years, and the last year is really the "Day of the Lord" totally 3.5 years, 1260 days etc. They are two separate events. Then Christ comes back. If you take a Preterist stand, then you need not bother looking at the chart -- I already know your position.

 

[reba]

 

[Sinthesis]

Here's a chart I found on Revelation. Seems to make it the most understandable for those of you into futurist interpretation. Notice the dreadful days coming are not one Tribulation but two main parts: 1) the Tribulation of 2.5 years, and the last year is really the "Day of the Lord" totally 3.5 years, 1260 days etc. They are two separate events. Then Christ comes back. If you take a Preterist stand, then you need not bother looking at the chart -- I already know your position.

Too late! I looked! I'm pretty sure you don't know my position, hence the chart. Man,,, I need a chart.

 

[reba]

tim-from-pa
Where you and/or this chart place the Resurrection?

 

[Willie T]

I kind of got a kick out of how this chart specified, "a very short time" in the top right timeline..............
Yet when Jesus used basically the very same words, it just has to mean thousands of years in the future.

 

[jasonc]

I kind of got a kick out of how this chart specified, "a very short time" in the top right timeline..............
Yet when Jesus used basically the very same words, it just has to mean thousands of years in the future.

lol

 

[reba]

When we pay attention a bunch of little things like that make an impression after a while ...

 

[Willie T]

When we pay attention a bunch of little things like that make an impression after a while ...

I guess because of the years of therapy work, I tend to read for what ISN'T said... or, what is played down.

I think it was in the book, The Little Prince, that is was said by the fox, "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."

 

[jocor]

Here's a chart I found on Revelation. Seems to make it the most understandable for those of you into futurist interpretation. Notice the dreadful days coming are not one Tribulation but two main parts: 1) the Tribulation of 2.5 years, and the last year is really the "Day of the Lord" totally 3.5 years, 1260 days etc. They are two separate events. Then Christ comes back. If you take a Preterist stand, then you need not bother looking at the chart -- I already know your position.

This chart is very close to my understanding of Revelation except for the 3 1/2 year period on the top. Rev 12 takes place at the beginning of the 7th Trumpet and before the first plague. It depicts the resurrection of the believers in Messiah (vs 5) and is followed by a 3 1/2 year period of safety (Rev 12:6). There is also a 3 1/2 year period the precedes the 7th Trumpet (Rev 11:3).

 

[reba]

jocor where do you place the Resurrection.

 

[jocor]

jocor where do you place the Resurrection.

As soon as the 7th Trumpet sounds in Rev 11:15. Rev 12 is depicting those resurrected saints ascending to heaven. The 7th Trumpet is the same trumpet blown when Yeshua returns to resurrect the dead in him.

 

[reba]

thank you for a direct answer