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Doctrinal differences

John 3:19-21 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world (Jesus), but men loved darkness instead of the light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

A person will either come to Jesus, or not. I found Jesus because God found me, it wasn't because of any person. Except Jesus
 
john 6:44
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
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They exist and it both breaks my heart and worries me.

It breaks my heart because the church is not unified in its belief. This causes fractions within the church and the world can see it. Furthermore it breaks my heart because we have a tendency to rough ride shot over those in the church who do not agree with our thoughts.

In the early church they had differences of opinion but it seems to me they came to a unified belief.

I have for the last couple of years been trying to break away from my indoctrination and have spent many many hours reading the bible, seeking the context, the issues that caused the apostles to write their letters.

I have to be honest at times it's done my head in and times it's released my done in mind.

So now I am fairly comfortable with some things and some things not (so i would not give my opinions on those I'm not so sure about)

What worries me?

Now please note I'm not looking for a rebuff of what I beleive unless it's totally not biblical.

Firstly I beleive that is a person confesses with their mouth that Jesus is the Son of God who died and rose again is saved, I do not believe baptism saves, I do not believe works save, I beleive those that struggle with addiction yet cannot overcome it are saved. Those are some of the things I believe and as I said at the moment not looking for correction.

What I cannot get and fathom is what happens when we stand before God on judgement day.

So you believe baptism saves and I don't. One of us is wrong

What then?
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My hope is that this gives you hope, because it gives me hope. Not to stop trying to learn and understand on our own, because that is important too. But if any of us is wrong and a fellow Christian is right, or any of us is right and a fellow Christian is wrong, or anything that comes up with doctrinal differences, here is my hope, and I hope you are relieved by the passages too. I'm sure you know this too, but I also recommend to always look up the passages yourself to see the context they were in as well as seeing they are recorded correctly.

1 Corinthians 2:1-5 (NIV)

2 And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.2 For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3 I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. 4 My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words,but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5 so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.

Proverbs 3:3-8 (NIV)

3 Let love and faithfulness never leave you;
bind them around your neck,
write them on the tablet of your heart.
4 Then you will win favor and a good name
in the sight of God and man.

5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.

7 Do not be wise in your own eyes;
fear the Lord and shun evil.
8 This will bring health to your body
and nourishment to your bones.

It's based on these verses (I think there are other too that say simular things) that I have hope that our faith in God is different then our intelectual understanding and discernment. But it is in relying on God, and trusting in Him. Both when we understand why and when we don't.
 
Know one likes to be wrong. Oh the shame of saying ' you know what, I think your right'. The shame of evil being humbled.

Stubborn, Ignorant, Prideful.

The amount of times I have walked away in anger, had a think about it, come back and said sorry, is ridiculous.
 
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Look at elections. To be a President you have to be as stubborn, ignorant and as prideful as you can be and completely destroy your opposition in Pride.

Evil in its finest form. A vote for anyone is a vote for the devil.
 
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kiwidan said:
Look at elections. To be a President you have to be as stubborn, ignorant and as prideful as you can be and completely destroy your opposition in Pride.

Evil in its finest form. A vote for anyone is a vote for the devil.
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if the devil is elected he will put Worthy out of business so we will see if you are right soon
 
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