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Does GOD take permision from a Christian?

Classik

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Can GOD ever take permission from a Christian before doing something?
 
Absolutely, "Yes". There are any number of things, attitudes, comfort, hope, peace that we can refuse to accept from God. And I think we all have only to look at our own lives to see that God will not force them upon us without our willing acceptance, which, in reality, is "permission".
 
Read the story of Balaam, the Donkey, and the Angel in the book of Numbers.
 
Classik what do you mean permission?

per·mis·sion
noun
1.
authorization granted to do something; formal consent: to ask permission to leave the room.

NO would be my answer ....

Mat_28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth

who is man to grant permission to God ?
 
Classik said:
Can GOD ever take permission from a Christian before doing something?
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simply, of course. Yhwh won't even save a person without their complete, total, wholehearted, whole mind, willingness and cry for His help in repentance from their previous sin and life and opposition to Him.

admittedly, many today seem to think they can give an hour a day or an hour a week to His service, but I am certain they are in for a SURPRISE that they won't like on judgment day, unless they are SURPRISED with His Real Life and True Salvation in the Grace of Christ Jesus before then.
 
This is almost a trick question. Depending upon perspective, it could be yes or no. I do believe that from the Classik perspective, the answer would be yes. What is given in Grace, must be received in Faith, or there is no delivery.

It's not that God needs our permission to act, but rather, He is so loving that He gives us the freedom to choose.

Who here takes their kid to the candy store, and wont let them choose? :screwloose

Or so it seems to me.
 
Edward said:
It's not that God needs our permission to act, but rather, He is so loving that He gives us the freedom to choose.

Who here takes their kid to the candy store, and wont let them choose? :screwloose

Or so it seems to me.
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I can understand that perspective. I really can, but think about this. How does anyone's choice for God compare to His choice for us?

In other words; what is the value of mans choice, without first being chosen? If God needed permission to come here and live a perfect life for us, and die a sacrificial death for us, would we have chosen that, or given Him the permission to do it?
 
Danus said:
I can understand that perspective. I really can, but think about this. How does anyone's choice for God compare to His choice for us?

In other words; what is the value of mans choice, without first being chosen? If God needed permission to come here and live a perfect life for us, and die a sacrificial death for us, would we have chosen that, or given Him the permission to do it?
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You're right, there is no comparison. In ignorance of God, no man would have chosen that, it seems ridiculous on the surface, however, as intimacy grows and Love is introduced then the choice would be a resounding yes.

You're walking down the street with other strangers. Someone tosses a live grenade towards the crowd. Would you jump on it to save the stranger lady walking near you? Not likely. Would you jump on it to save your Wife? Yes. The difference being love and intimacy.
 
Edward said:
You're right, there is no comparison. In ignorance of God, no man would have chosen that, it seems ridiculous on the surface, however, as intimacy grows and Love is introduced then the choice would be a resounding yes.

You're walking down the street with other strangers. Someone tosses a live grenade towards the crowd. Would you jump on it to save the stranger lady walking near you? Not likely. Would you jump on it to save your Wife? Yes. The difference being love and intimacy.
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Very true. I can honestly say I choose God, but as a good teacher once put it to me, we make choices freely within our position to choose anything.
 
Edward said:
You're right, there is no comparison. In ignorance of God, no man would have chosen that, it seems ridiculous on the surface, however, as intimacy grows and Love is introduced then the choice would be a resounding yes.

You're walking down the street with other strangers. Someone tosses a live grenade towards the crowd. Would you jump on it to save the stranger lady walking near you? Not likely. Would you jump on it to save your Wife? Yes. The difference being love and intimacy.
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i don't want to reply to this this way, but i will because it is necessary. in the case of my own life, i haven't been tested as to whether i would throw myself on the grenade for my wife (or children). i did give up my whole life to Yhwh first, then everything for them while i am alive - so as far as i have been tested , i did.

but , the point coming to mind is this --- the testimony of true believers in dangerous situations is and was that they would let their own wife and family die, or sacrificed their own life, when it meant they could save the lives of unbelievers, because they knew
that their wife and family, and theirselves were safe in the arms of the Heavenly Father, Abba, the Judge Eternal,
and they
knew that the unbelievers souls would be lost forever if they died at that moment,
and without hesitating they allowed themselves or their family to be sacrificed on behalf of the unbeliever(s) so that , Yhwh willing, they might somehow (later, if even in a moment) be saved ETERNALLY.

this was one simple, understood, unchanging reason why the believers in the first century would not willingly kill any other person. the enemy has muddied the waters so much, only a few know and are saved.
 
follower said:
i don't want to reply to this this way, but i will because it is necessary. in the case of my own life, i haven't been tested as to whether i would throw myself on the grenade for my wife (or children). i did give up my whole life to Yhwh first, then everything for them while i am alive - so as far as i have been tested , i did.

but , the point coming to mind is this --- the testimony of true believers in dangerous situations is and was that they would let their own wife and family die, or sacrificed their own life, when it meant they could save the lives of unbelievers, because they knew
that their wife and family, and theirselves were safe in the arms of the Heavenly Father, Abba, the Judge Eternal,
and they
knew that the unbelievers souls would be lost forever if they died at that moment,
and without hesitating they allowed themselves or their family to be sacrificed on behalf of the unbeliever(s) so that , Yhwh willing, they might somehow (later, if even in a moment) be saved ETERNALLY.

this was one simple, understood, unchanging reason why the believers in the first century would not willingly kill any other person. the enemy has muddied the waters so much, only a few know and are saved.
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Wow, brother, you are on top of it today. :) That makes perfect sense to me.

if I die, I hope no one prays for me to live. lol. Who would want to bring back a Christian who was safe in the arms of our Lord?! If someone prays me through, I'm coming back swinging! lol...:) :hips:chair:wall :hysterical
 
Willie T said:
Absolutely, "Yes". There are any number of things, attitudes, comfort, hope, peace that we can refuse to accept from God. And I think we all have only to look at our own lives to see that God will not force them upon us without our willing acceptance, which, in reality, is "permission".
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Absolutely true. I never thought about this. Thanks
 
reba said:
Classik and his simple questions :wave2

He sure opens dialog .. Gets the views out ... :thumbsup
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I had always had in mind the answer would be NO. The replies here have changed my perspective.
i have acquired more here than in a trillion other places
 
Danus said:
I can understand that perspective. I really can, but think about this. How does anyone's choice for God compare to His choice for us?

In other words; what is the value of mans choice, without first being chosen? If God needed permission to come here and live a perfect life for us, and die a sacrificial death for us, would we have chosen that, or given Him the permission to do it?
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Well. This posts reminds me of free will and sell will
 
Edward said:
Wow, brother, you are on top of it today. :) That makes perfect sense to me.

if I die, I hope no one prays for me to live. lol. Who would want to bring back a Christian who was safe in the arms of our Lord?! If someone prays me through, I'm coming back swinging! lol...:) :hips:chair:wall :hysterical
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don't go to other 'very poor' countries then (where their faith may be strong enough, Yhwh willing). here in america you have little to worry about if you die- there's not enough faith in most places in the 'wealthy countries' ..... so if you go, you go and remain gone.
 
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