evechot said:
Some persons have said that what makes man different from the animals is that man has a soul but the animals do not. However, Genesis 1:20 and 30 says that God created "living souls" to live in the waters, and that the animals have "life as a soul". In these verses some Bibles use the words "creatures" and "life" instead of "souls", but the marginal readings agree that the word "soul" is what appears in the "Original" language. Among the Bible references to animals as souls is Numbers 31:28. There it speaks of "one soul out of five hundred", of humankind and of the herd and of the asses and of the flock".
Since animals are souls. [remember that soul means fleshly bodies], when they die their souls die. As dsthe Bible says; "Every living soul died, yes, the things in the sea". [Rev. 16:3] What about human souls? As we have learned from Genesis 3:19 God created Adam from the dust, He did not exist before then. God did not create man "with" a soul. Man "is" a soul . So, as we would expect, when man dies, his soul dies too. Over and over again the Bible says that this is true. Never does the Bible say the soul is deathless or that it cannot die. [Psalms 22:29; Ezekiel 18:4 and 20 And if you turn to Joshua 10:28-39, you will find seven places where the soul is spoken of as being killed or destroyed.
When Jesus died on the cross, his soul [body] was put in the tomb awaiting the resurrection. And his spirit [life force] returned to his heavenly Father. Matthew 27:50; Mark 15:37; Luke 23:46; John 19:30
MY COMMENT ON THE ABOVE: You know, BF, I would disagree that "soul" and "body" are equivalent. Matthew 27:57-61only speaks of Jesus body being prepared and placed in a new tomb.
After His resurrection, the angels said, "He is not here; he has risen, just as he said." NIV. So, Jesus died, and Jesus (the whole person) was resurrected, Matt. 28:6.
The interesting thing is, that "Soul" could be said to be the consciousness, the feelings, the desires, produced by the breath of life vitalizing the body; and as such, is not something tangible, like the body. So, when we die, the body returns to the dust from whence it came, the soul is said to disappear or "go to the unseen (sheol--Heb; hades--Greek), while the spirit returns to God who gave it. See Gen. 3:17-19; Psalm 16:10 and Acts 2:25-28; Zech. 12:1; Eccl. 12:7.
The problem is in the translation from Greek or Hebrew into english. The translaters often used two different words form the Greek or Hebrew but use one english word to translate these words that means two different things.....hell is one of these english words.
MY COMMENTS: TOO TRUE!
Hebrew and Greek words that have been translated Hell but means different things in their original language.
Matthew 5:22 (ASV)
22 but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire.
Hell:
Greek Word: γÎÂεννα
Transliteration: geenna
Phonetic Pronunciation: gheh'-en-nah
of Hebrew origin [<H1516> (gay') and <H2011> (Hinnom)]; valley of (the son of) Hinnom; gehenna (or Ge-Hinnom), a valley of Jerusalem, used (figurative) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment :- hell.
MY COMMENTS: STRONG'S IS CERTAINLY A RESPECTED DICTIONARY, BUT, IMO, THEY HAVE USED SOMEONE'S INTERPRETATION INSTEAD OF THE SCRIPTURES. I BELIEVE GEENNA WAS A LITERAL PLACE DURING OUR LORD'S EARTHLY MINISTRY, AND WILL BE AGAIN OUTSIDE THE RESTORED jERUSALEM IN THE MILLENNIUM. IT WAS A PLACE WHERE THE RUBBISH, THE OFFAL OF THE CITY WAS DUMPED AND KEPT BURNING TO DESTROY MUCH OF THE OFFAL AND HELP PURIFY THE AIR FROM THE STENCH. THE WORST KIND OF JUDGMENT WAS THE JUDGMENT OF GEENNA, WHERE THE CRIMINAL WOULD BE STONED TO DEATH AND HIS BODY CAST INTO GEENNA. SEE MATT. 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9, ETC.
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2 Peter 2:4 (KJV)
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Hell:
Greek Word: ÄαÃÂÄαÃÂÃ΃
Transliteration: tartaroÃ…Â
Phonetic Pronunciation: tar-tar-o'-o
from Tartaros (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment :- cast down to hell.
MY COMMENTS: AGAIN, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH STRONG'S. "HADES" IS NOT IN THE VERSE AT ALL.
"TARTAROO" LITERALLY MEANS TO CAST DOWN TO TARTARUS. THE H.S. GUIDED PETER TO BORROW IT FROM GREEK MYTHOLOGY WHERE IS WAS THE PLACE WHERE LESSOR GODS WERE KEPT WHEN THEY REBELLED AGAINST THE HIGHER GODS. IT WAS A PLACE OF DEEP, DARK CAVERNS. JUDE ALSO DESCRIBES THESE FALLEN ANGELS IN VERSE 6, "AND THE ANGELS WHICH KEPT NOT THEIR FIRST ESTATE, BUT LEFT THEIR OWN HABITATION, HE HATH RESERVED IN [EVERLASTING] CHAINS UNDER DARKNESS UNTO THE JUDGMENT OF THE GREAT DAY."
THE ITALICS ARE THERE TO CALL ATTENTION THAT THEY COULD NOT BE EVERLASTING CHAINS, BECAUSE THE SINNING ANGELS ARE TO BE BROUGHT UP FOR JUDGMENT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE WORD IS "AIONIAN" IN GREEK, WHICH MEANS "AGE-LASTING" OR "AGE-DURING."
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2 Samuel 22:6 (KJV)
6 The sorrows of hell compassed me about; the snares of death prevented me;
MY COMMENTS: IF THIS WERE THE POPULAR VIEW OF 'HELL', THEN RIGHTEOUS DAVID WAS COMPASSED ABOUT (ENGULFED) BY THE FLAMES OF HELL.
Hell:
Hebrew Word: â€Âשְ×Â×Âוֹל‎
Transliteration: sheʾôl
Phonetic Pronunciation: sheh-ole'
Root: from <H7592>
Cross Reference: TWOT - 2303c
or she'ol, sheh-ole'; from <H7592> (sha'al); hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), including its accessories and inmates :- grave, hell, pit.
MY COMMENTS: OBVIOUSLY, THE COMPILERS OF THE DICTIONARY BELIEVED THE DEAD WERE STILL ALIVE IN SOME FORM WHEN IN SHEOL (HADES).
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Words that have been translated from Greek and Hebrew to Soul but means different things in their original language.
Genesis 2:7 (ASV)
7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Soul:
Hebrew Word: â€Âנֶפֶש×Â‎
Transliteration: nepesh
Phonetic Pronunciation: neh'-fesh
Root: from <H5314>
Cross Reference: TWOT - 1395a
from <H5314> (naphash); properly a breathing creature, i.e. animal or (abstract) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental) :- any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, × dead (-ly), desire, × [dis-] contented, × fish, ghost, + greedy, he, heart (-y), (hath, × jeopardy of) life (× in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortally, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, + slay, soul, + tablet, they, thing, (× she) will, × would have it.
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Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Revelation 6:9 (KJV)
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Soul:
Greek Word: ÈÅÇή
Transliteration: psychē
Phonetic Pronunciation: psoo-khay'
from <G5594> (psucho); breath, i.e. (by implication) spirit, abstract or concrete (the animal sentient principle only; thus distinguished on the one hand from <G4151> (pneuma), which is the rational and immortal soul; and on the other from <G2222> (zoe), which is mere vitality, even of plants: these terms thus exactly correspond respectively to the Hebrew <H5315> (nephesh), <H7307> (ruwach) and <H2416> (chay)) :- heart (+ -ily), life, mind, soul, + us, + you.
MY COMMENTS: LOOK HOW THE COMPILERS BELIEVE THE SOUL IS IMMORTAL. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE NEVER DONE A WORD STUDY ON "SOUL".
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We should not read the Bible as if it’s a story book, but we should study the scriptures; looking into what the words that we are reading, and searching into what these words mean in their original language.