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Desire to be a vessel of honor unto the Lord Jesus Christ?
Join For His Glory for a discussion on how
https://christianforums.net/threads/a-vessel-of-honor.110278/
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Taking the time to pray? Christ is the answer in times of need
https://christianforums.net/threads/psalm-70-1-save-me-o-god-lord-help-me-now.108509/
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Depending upon the Holy Spirit for all you do?
Read through the following study by Tenchi for more on this topic
https://christianforums.net/threads/without-the-holy-spirit-we-can-do-nothing.109419/
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How are famous preachers sometimes effected by sin?
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https://christianforums.net/threads/anointed-preaching-teaching.109331/#post-1912042
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Does Time have a Beginning?
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Is material and energy eternal?
If the universe has always existed, how do they explain the existence of finite sun's which have a life of billions of years, but 3xist in a universe that has always existed.
( comparison example. You have lived for years, a lifetime, but a candle has a burn time of at most several hours. Could you then say then that you lit this ca dle when you started school and it is still burning!
That is what they are claiming. )
Consecrated Life
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A lot of time talk .
As a Christain I'll take God's Word for time as it applies to me .
Our time here on earth is unbelievably short.
Quantem super positions existing simultaneously with subatomic particles of space time's interwoven stiches, outside the gamma ray bursts within the parabolic periphery not withstanding.
Psalm 90:9
For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.
Psalm 90:10
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
As a Christain I'll take God's Word for time as it applies to me .
Our time here on earth is unbelievably short.
Quantem super positions existing simultaneously with subatomic particles of space time's interwoven stiches, outside the gamma ray bursts within the parabolic periphery not withstanding.
Psalm 90:9
For all our days are passed away in thy wrath: we spend our years as a tale that is told.
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
reddogs
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You forget, God does not need the sun, moon, and stars to provide light. God is light and we see it at Creation and throughout the Bible.
John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
John 8:12
Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
He is the light and generates energy that is in the universe and what was there at Creation.
Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
God Himself was the light for the first three days of Creation, just as He will be in the new heavens and new earth.
Revelation 21:23
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
Revelation 22:5
And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.
Until He created the sun, moon, and stars, God of divine power provided light during the “day”, now what this 'energy' encompasses, we will have to see when we get to heaven.
Where do I even begin to implie that?
Do you u derstand the implication of a finite object existing in an infinite universe?
Any finite object sun's etc would have burnt-out an infinity ago.
And before the Jews beginning with Abel the first prophet.
Not judging I think it fine to have favorites But every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor. We yoked with Him are saved by His labor of Love, called a work of faith .
The words of the Father are given to his prophets .Jesus is one of the main apostles sent to do the will of God empowered by the Father.
I agree day four the two corrupted timekeepers winding down to the last day under the Sun. Temporal to us. . . eternal to our Faithful Creator having finished all the work 6 days
reddogs
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I think when man was made at Creation, he was of greater mind and body than after all the years of corruption which destroy both. Man knew what had happened after they were driven out of Eden, and it got passed on...
Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
It appears to me, by reading Genesis.
Adam did not have spiritual gifts:
Adam did not have a word of knowledge regarding the serpent.
Adam did not rebuke Eve (in Love)
Adam made a poor choice in regard to eating from the wrong tree
Adam tried to cover his sun rather than confess his sin
Adam tried to blame someone else
Eve was deceived
Eve said the serpent beguiled me
Mankind sounds pretty lacking in spiritual discernment to me, and it got worse in later generations.
Spiritual insight came to Sons and Daughters at Pentecost.
Mississippi redneck
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reddogs
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And yet he talk with God face to face, need to read and understand what scripture shows us...
Genesis 3:7-11
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the Lord God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.
11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
Uncle J
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I suggest you get your info on science-related topics from actual science resources rather than YT vids.
Atom refused to believe God and chose the pattern of death just a Eve.
Pentecost has nothing to do with what Adam and Eve knew,. Spiritual insight was given to Abel who was murdered by His brother Cain seduced by the devil .
1 Peter 1:10 kjv
10. Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should comeunto you:
11. Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
A prophet does not always know what he is saying.
A person speaking in tongues does not always know what he is saying. Prayer may bring the answer.
Study Elihu. (Privately) For another thread.
Mississippi redneck
eddif
A prophet declares the words of another "not seen" . He is given the understanding as well as the one he was sent to .All gifts are two fold mutually working as one .
And answer to prayer a spirutl gift
Romans1:10 Making request, if by any means now at length I might have a prosperous journey by the will of God to come unto you. For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith (christ) both of you and me. Now I would not have you ignorant, brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles. I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise. So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith (Christs not of our own self. )
Prophecy is a two fold spiritual gift given the words to one as a gift and by the power of faith gives ears to hear the understanding to both . called the mutual faith of Christ. It works in all born again of the Spirit of Christ .If any man has not the born again Spirit of Christ then neither do they belong to God
reddogs
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I am finding more as I look at this, one thing for sure is scientist are stumped by how the universe seems to be from one origin...
"Strange Coincidence
NEVERTHELESS, the properties of the Milky Way are basically the same as those of distant galaxies. It is as though you showed up at a party only to find you were wearing exactly the same clothes as a dozen of your closest friends. If just two of you were dressed the same, it might be explained away as coincidence, but a dozen suggests that the partygoers had coordinated their attire in advance. In cosmology, the number is not a dozen but tens of thousands--the number of independent yet statistically identical patches of sky in the microwave background." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-myth-of-the-beginning-of-time-2006-02/
"Strange Coincidence
NEVERTHELESS, the properties of the Milky Way are basically the same as those of distant galaxies. It is as though you showed up at a party only to find you were wearing exactly the same clothes as a dozen of your closest friends. If just two of you were dressed the same, it might be explained away as coincidence, but a dozen suggests that the partygoers had coordinated their attire in advance. In cosmology, the number is not a dozen but tens of thousands--the number of independent yet statistically identical patches of sky in the microwave background." https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-myth-of-the-beginning-of-time-2006-02/
reddogs
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That one has me searching, as it seems to have to be a energy that can be seen, and measured. We shall see....