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Download all the information FB has on YOU

Sparkey

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Download all the information FB has on you. You'll be surprised! :eek2
Here's how:

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While in Facebook:
1. Click [Upper_Right]-[Down_Arrow] for 'MENU'
2. Find and click 'SETTINGS'
3. Ensure you have a 'SECURE CONNECTION' --OR JUST--
CLICK --> [https://www.facebook.com/settings]
4. Then Click: "Download a copy of your Facebook data"​
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They will email a HYPERLINK to your FB email address of record. Follow their instruction(s).
It will be zipped. It will be HUGE.

Imagine - every single picture you're ever uploaded, each post, every friend, everybody you're ever unfriended, lots and lots moar. Tons of Data and why not? Data storage is cheap.

Thought Bubble_1 says: ". o O (( We have to figure out what to do with all that storage right? ))"
Brilliant idea_2 replies: ". o O (( Oh! I know! Let's use it to track our "members". ))"

PS Per the Facebook ToS all 'your' data belongs to them.
By Oliver Smith said:
Quoted From: 'Facebook terms and conditions: why you don't own your online life' by Oliver Smith, Published online Sunday 12 February 2017, by The Telegraph.co.uk

Facebook
With over a billion users, Facebook is the definitive homepage for many web users. Its terms of service, data use and cookie use policy span more than 14,000 words over eight separate pages and would take even the quickest reader more than two hours to dig through. But what rights have you handed over to Facebook?


[read moar at: Facebook terms and conditions: why you don't own your online life ]
 
BUT SPARROW(!) That sounds like a lot of trouble. Is it really worth it?

"Watch as I pull a wabbit outta my hat:"

"Nothing up my sleeve,"
"Nothing in my head... Errrr, I meant, 'nothing in my hand'."

(*POOF*)

Here you go:
What FB info is available?

About Me

Account Status History
Active Sessions
Ads Clicked
Address
Ad Topics
Alternate Name
Apps
Birthday Visibility
Chat
Check-ins

Connections
Credit Cards
Currency
Current City
Date of Birth
Deleted Friends
Education
Emails
Events

Facial Recognition Data
Family
Favorite Quotes
Followers
Following
Friend Requests
Friends
Gender
Groups
Hidden from News Feed
Hometown
IP Addresses
Last Location
Likes on Others' Posts
Likes on Your Posts from others
Likes on Other Sites
Linked Accounts
Locale
Logins
Logouts
Messages
Name
Name Changes
Networks
Notes
Notification Settings
Pages You Admin
Pending Friend Requests
Phone Numbers
Photos
Photos Metadata
Physical Tokens
Pokes
Political Views
Posts by You
Posts by Others

Posts to Others
Privacy Settings
Recent Activities

Registration Date

Religious Views
Removed Friends

Screen Names
Searches
Shares
Spoken Languages
Status Updates

Work
Vanity URL
Videos

Poor exhausted Sparrow said:
Whew! That was some BIG wabbit.
 
Google is worse (tracks more data).

I first heard about "the insidious nature of collecting data on citizens," many years ago. But I don't know who said it? It was one of the founding fathers and I thought it may have been Alexander Hamilton during one of the Lincoln/Hamilton debates. But I've searched for the quote to no avail and at this point question my recollective process - what? I am getting older and maybe I just forgot. But in any case, the context of the discussion was the need to limit the government and privacy invasion. The speaker that I read had sufficient foresight to think that we needed protection from the Feds, but didn't realize we needed protection from ourselves as well.

There is no Constitutional provision protecting our right to privacy. I'm not as worried about our Government or George Orwell's 'Big Brother' metaphor as I am the out-of-control corporate citizens, right?

Daniel J. Solove said:
The Big Brother metaphor as well as much of the law that protects privacy emerges from a longstanding paradigm for conceptualizing privacy problems. Under this paradigm, privacy is invaded by uncovering one’s hidden world, by surveillance, and by the disclosure of concealed information. The harm caused by such invasions consists of inhibition, self-censorship, embarrassment, and damage to one’s reputation. Privacy law has developed with this paradigm in mind, and consequently, it has failed to grapple effectively with the database problem.

CITATION: Daniel J. Solove, Privacy and Power: Computer Databases and Metaphors for Information Privacy, 53 Stan. L. Rev. 1393 (2001).
Daniel J. Solove is Assistant Professor, Seton Hall Law School; J.D., Yale University.
 
Thanks for the info Sparrowhawke.

Two issues that come up for me.

1) What use is this data? (The big "so what" kind of question).
And
2). Who has access to this data? (A serious question that widens the scope of the use of data from what Facebook uses it for, to whomever can access Facebook might use it for.)

Facebook and MySpace were becoming a thing when I was in highschool and getting into college, so for the most part, my childhood had the freedom to be undocumented outside of what my parents took pictures of themselves. Now a days I've cousins that don't have a life before Facebook. Anything they might not want shared in their adult life might still be out there for future empoyers to run through, or have "cyber bullies" taunt them about. (Political views, immaturity as a kid or teen, or old parties an adult would rather forget and not have it be part of their legacy down the road).

But even with those issues, (and conspiricy issues that if the public has access, then so does the government), there's also a reason for Facebook's popularity. People are connecting with eachother at a rate that would be harder to do without Facebook's foundation to go on. Family connections, (much of my last family reunion was planned through Facebook privite group conversations), friends that have moved away, and highschool reunions are three applications to Facebook that keep it there. I'm sure there are other applications that make it popular and not going away.

Personally I'm not on Facebook as much anymore for reasons outside of the data storage in it. The "what's the point" aspect to want to connect to it are largely buried by online drama of friends losing friendships, and a large amount of issues I don't agree with or don't care to read being the forefront of what I see in the main pages.
 
  • 1) What use is this data? (The big "so what" kind of question).
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  • 2). Who has access to this data?
Very good questions, both! I'll try the first one, first.
The data is used in a process called 'knowledge discovery' or 'data mining' (KDDM). Here's a link to an UCLA published article that is at-the-same-time basic in scope and technical. UCLA Data Mining Article by Jason Frand. Skim it, if you'd like, but the real term to search for is "Privacy Advocates," but be prepared to sort through a lot of stuff. Here's a result from Penn State U: Privacy Issues in Knowledge Discovery and Data Mining by Ljiljana Brankovic and Vladimir Estivill-Castro But as you search be aware that you're now in their list as a part of the class of people called, "Interested_in_Privacy" or some such thing.

When I was in the course selection process for my Network Security degree I wanted to study advanced mathematics which included the "appeal" that beckoned me toward Advanced Calculus and its' predictive abilities for gaming. There are ways to use math to predict what gamers will do. Those skills are still way beyond me but it was fun getting the gist of the idea and it made learning easier because there were personal goals to keep my focus. The 'predictive abilities' of math and data are where the 'amazing' part comes in. When they put it to use.

One study shows that men who buy diapers on a Wednesday or Thursday limited their time in store and were more likely to buy beer. Contrast that with the same men and their habits on a weekend. It seemed that they would come in during the week for diapers and pick up the beer for the weekend while keeping their other impulses in check. A, "I don't got time for that now," kind of thing.

A metaphor that is useful while considering such things is studies of the properties of expanding gasses. Nobody can predict the random movement of a single atom. But given enough of them by considering all the atoms in a balloon? Think about what happens when you blow it up. Now that's a force with an outcome we may predict. Not an single atom, but when applied to a large enough population? The balloon WILL expand. We know this for a certainty but we are blind on a specific individual level. There's a thing called Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, or Indeterminacy Principle, articulated (1927) by the German physicist Werner Heisenberg, which states that BOTH the position and the velocity of an object cannot both be measured exactly, at the same time, even in theory. That is offset by 'Fuzzy Logic' (Fuzzy logic is an approach to computing based on "degrees of truth" rather than the usual "true or false" (1 or 0) Compuer or Boolean logic) and these are all subjects worthy of their own studies and research but I'm not the best person to ask. Keep in mind, we do not know yet the full use of such stuff; the potential use suggests that it's as yet untapped (or almost untapped). They are compiling huge amounts of data like it's gold and that says a lot all by itself. Business won't invest that much time and money on something that they can't exploit. It is a vast resource.

I'm a Centrist, politically, and a Generalist when it comes to knowledge. So I don't much go in for Conspiracy Theories, but if you do look at some of the "Privacy Advocate" sites you'll run into those who love conspiracy - just be aware that they are cooks but there is some truth to be found even there. Take with a grain of salt, as my dad would say. It takes a special eye to be able to sort the disinformation from the honest concerns but I think that business can be counted on to try to maximize profits and minimize loss. That's a guarantee.

So,that's what they use it for. It doesn't sound too ominous, does it? I don't like the sound of it though. Especially with Citizen's United court decision in place regarding "Corporate Citizens". They have too much clout comparatively. Okay - now for question #2.
  • 2). Who has access to this data?

Technically? Everybody has access. But that's not true, not really. In much the same way that locks prevent honest people from entering your house but windows allow all criminals easy access, in much the same way, any hacker (even the baby hackers) can, with a tiny bit of research or training, can access data found on cell phones, kept by Facebook, by Google and by Microsoft. It's not because the large corporations do not do their duty or that they are not properly protecting their data (it's not yours per their ToS). They do protect their data. It's a major business investment and resource.

But... and here's the rub... do you? Do you protect their data? The data they've compiled on you? You're the weak link in that chain. I should change that to the more friendly version, "We're the weak link," because it applies to everybody to one degree or another.

I don't want to say too much and will ask a moderator to take a look at my answer here reba to ensure that it's okay to say, but the need for strong passwords for your devices is paramount. I can not stress that enough. That's how the junior crackers (name for Black-hat hacker) do it. It doesn't take long to crack any password. Those of us who are trained in Computer and Network Security are bound by ethical concerns (and agreements). But those concerns don't apply to thieves any more than locks apply to those trained in picking locks but not formal locksmithing.

The "what's the point" aspect to want to connect to it are largely buried by online drama of friends losing friendships, and a large amount of issues I don't agree with or don't care to read being the forefront of what I see in the main pages.

I have a total of ten (10) Facebook 'friends,' no more. But Google is actually better at KDDM than FB (meaning they do more of it).
 
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Mods, thanks for moving this thread for us.

I was thinking more along the General discussion line but this more Tech-Talk. Good call. :nod
 
This is merely everything I've written. Most everything I post is "global" so it's a wonder I was not killed by now. LOL But I don't care what FB, the government, etc know --- indeed I deliberately try to ruffle feathers. The only thing that can be a little sensitive is 1) the advertisers one visited, and 2) PM's. if someone ever gotten a hold of them. In the case of #1, they can make false assumptions and false personal profile about you (which can be damaging) figuring that you are "interested" just because you visited them. Many just look out of curiosity and in my case oftentimes judgmental curiosity -- I may visit a drug advertiser just to see the stupid stuff they advertise when those of you here that know me know that I am against drugs. A nosy FBI or government person may think I take drugs just because I visit the sites -- false assumption. As for #2, I don't say anything that I am ashamed of, but out of the interest of those I PM THEIR privacy is compromised if someone sees my PM to them.

In the more pragmatic sense, I feel sorry (not afraid) of those who feel they have to nose in on my privacy. I'm sorry that their lives are boring, or that they don't have satisfying sexual outlets, or some other handicap where their lives are a total mess that they feel they can be empowered by my exciting life where I don't have those problems, even close to age 60. I guess that's sort of a compliment to me if they find me interesting.
 
With Facebook, I do not like the concept of them storing data after an account is deleted and disconnected.
In Germany, many people use false names and would never post a picture of themselves as a matter of precaution.
In a world full of hackers, it isn't wise to have a portfolio of personal information online.
I tremble at the notion of logging into the Deutsche Bank online.
 
Good grief, Sparowhawke, you're right!

It is always good to remember that NOTHING you post on Facebook is private, so be careful what you post.
 
Interesting. Every bit of this is information you freely and willingly give...... yet you are complaining that they have it.
 
I highly doubt this type of situation is typical only to social websites. In fact, if you've so much as connected online you probably exposed yourself. Ever notice how advertising on many sites seem to reference things you've recently searched? Information about us is sold or traded constantly and it was likely done long before internet was available. Credit card transactions contain information that has probably been sold or traded for decades. How many of us have used personal checks in the past? What information was typically on them or requested by the retailer (name, address, phone, SS#, driver's license #, etc.). I'm betting that information wasn't or isn't kept secret.
 
I highly doubt this type of situation is typical only to social websites. In fact, if you've so much as connected online you probably exposed yourself. Ever notice how advertising on many sites seem to reference things you've recently searched? Information about us is sold or traded constantly and it was likely done long before internet was available. Credit card transactions contain information that has probably been sold or traded for decades. How many of us have used personal checks in the past? What information was typically on them or requested by the retailer (name, address, phone, SS#, driver's license #, etc.). I'm betting that information wasn't or isn't kept secret.
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