[__ Prayer __] Ease out of psychiatry?

[Christ_empowered]

To whatever extent possible I want to make a quiet exit from the mental health system. I really truly cannot work. A lot of it is more social and economic than psychiatric. When I could have been working I was at a college where I was hated labeled and pumped full of pills. Burned out by 19 heavily involuntarily electro shocked at 20 then very very very sick physically plus on society’s discard pile and operated on involuntarily at 23 and…

On and on. Truth? God is Good. I’m labeled with schizophrenia now largely because my parents were promoted over 10 years ago and hit the lower rungs of the upper class…well to do all that. If they hadn’t been promoted I’d maybe be in a group home. If they hadn’t seen fit to provide for me I’d just…shudder to think about it.


Schizophrenia is often code for unemployed and psychiatrized. Bipolar is often code for psychiatrized but capable of work. My official diagnosis is schizoaffective bipolar type which means unemployed but not subject to the level of confinement and control one often sees in those labeled with schizophrenia.

So…like so many others I see how dangerous and destructive the system is and most importantly…

It’s not of God. Never was never will be….not the talk nor the pills. God has forgiven all my sins including my part in the psych nonsense. I thank and praise Him.

I just saw my counselor. I thought I had 4 months till a med check. Now it’s 3. We were going 8 weeks between counseling sessions. Now it’s 6 max. Nothing compared to what they put lots of people through but…

Less is more lol can’t stand the clinic can’t stand the snarky receptionists and the angry people in the lobby and the occasional police presence…

And I get better treatment than most people. I’m just…done as in stick a fork in me done done done .

Thanks

 

[evenifigoalone]

Hope you're able to do that. While we don't see eye to eye on this stuff, does seem like it's the best thing for you to get out of that clinic if you can & just see a GP for your med needs or something. Or if not that, find another psych who can prescribe the meds you take & monitor them.

 

[stevenb]

Good luck exiting the system. Lord knows i've tried on my own for a very long time to with no such luck. Would it be different with God on my side? Maybe but I don't stress it now either way. I do understand not being able to work though, I cannot either on them. It literally hinders the person I wanted to be.

Anyways, again best of luck.

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno

I’d like to believe you know? That they help people and all that. But…

I dunno especially now that I believe in Jesus and He’s moved mightily in my life..

Not so much. I just don’t see it. I think the talk has potential sometimes to help people navigate difficulties but I’ve rarely seen anyone get truly better. Calmer maybe. Less intense more reflective sometimes. But truly changed for the better vs modified? Not so much.

Factor in my own horror stories of so called treatment and the damage to my family and…

Everything that was irreparable until Jesus Christ intervened…

Ugh

I believe in Jesus, I love Jesus.

I don’t really believe in mental illness. I’m rather scared of the system…

 

[stevenb]

I totally agree with your point of view. The pills don't cure anything, they will even admit that. They do however cause a boatload of side effects. I'd love to get out of it myself, it's just that to believe that Jesus could deliver me from this is to imply my mental illness was nothing short of punishment. And that is hard for me to wrap my head around.

 

[jasonc]

The human mind is a hard thing to understand.

I try to avoid dealing with the lost ,in the way they deal with PTSD as it's not about a biblical word view .while often they will unknowningly say biblical based things .

 

[Christ_empowered]

I dunno

I’ve been truly saved for 10 years. Now I’m considered high functioning schizophrenic or schizoaffective bipolar type and…

The label is probably permanent. No one would have hired me anyway. Even straight out of high school that was probably the case. Parents were middle class white collar…

With lots of enemies. Ugh rough work place rough social situation etc. so…

They retired fully and completely. More well to do but not rich or anything. Lots of people seem to have tried to derail their careers….

Including one of my former counselors. And when I was at my lowest point a private for profit hospital wanted me in a homeless shelter. This after they put enormous amounts of pressure on me and let me overdose on dangerous sleeping pills. They said I was severely narcissistic and making up lies to get attention and avoid responsibility and…

Yeah. Even less fun than it sounds. Lol

2nd hospital was private short stay lots of involuntary shock and some kind of operation, they kept hounding me for money after taking me off insurance…

So I have reason to doubt the whole industry. I heard voices etc more back then than I do now…

And now people openly say I need to be in the state hospital?!?!??

I dunno I’m healthy law abiding drug free and not even on any fun prescribed drugs lol so…

Again I have reason to doubt the whole industry. Lots of people doubt for their own reasons.

If my parents hadn’t been promoted I might not get such anger out of the locals…

But I probably wouldn’t be in mainstream society at all. So there’s that lol

God is Good. God is Love.

I’m down to a lower dose of a newer atypical and I’m taking vitamins and antioxidants by the handful. Seems to help.

The receptionists at the clinic were extra snarky last time. Frustrating. Minor all things. But unnecessary. Blah

 

[eddif]

I dunno

I’d like to believe you know? That they help people and all that. But…

I dunno especially now that I believe in Jesus and He’s moved mightily in my life..

Not so much. I just don’t see it. I think the talk has potential sometimes to help people navigate difficulties but I’ve rarely seen anyone get truly better. Calmer maybe. Less intense more reflective sometimes. But truly changed for the better vs modified? Not so much.

Factor in my own horror stories of so called treatment and the damage to my family and…

Everything that was irreparable until Jesus Christ intervened…

Ugh

I believe in Jesus, I love Jesus.

I don’t really believe in mental illness. I’m rather scared of the system…

Well folks
I think Mark 5:1-20

Is going to finally come alive. I wondered sort of why Jesus left the demoniac in his home town. His witness was for home folks.

I guess I need to rethink where I was when I was delivered and go home to testify, (whatever that really means for me).



Paul was on the road when changed and he stayed on the road. Different in many ways but changed.

Others were taken from where they were and put them elsewhere.

At a point in time past, I lived in anger all the time. I felt some the last few days. Maybe just coming to this thread will help. I really mean I looked for an argument. If I did not have an argument I was just undone. I came to the realization I was an anger hormone junkie.

Those who knew us watch us. What were we? Where were we going? Where are we headed now? What is our outlook.

Prayer thread. For sure.

eddif

 

[Tessa]

One day we will all be going home. We will be smiling and happy. We will all be healthy and with The Lord. I try to keep my eyes on that.
Praying for us all.

 

[citrus]

I have the same disorder. It happened after I had chemo. I never thought in my whole life this would happen to me. Really. I had a sound mind and my life was normal as anyone. I cry out to God every day. It is not easy. I totally get reputation and acceptance. It is like we are untrustworthy and dangerous. Yes some very much are, but tv and such make fun of people with mental health problems and it crushes my spirit. I just try to ignore those shows, but in front of others it makes me uncomfortable. I have been on alot of different meds. The doctors say it still is kind of a mystery to me. It helps to have a good pycatris (sorry can't spell it). My new one told me she is reducing my meds for health reasons. She was really concerned for me and I didn't like the fact that my last ones were just experimenting doping me up. I often ask God why he has let this happen to me. It use to be really bad but I am improving now. I tell God, God I have never done drugs or self medicate so why am I living like nebakkaneser. My parents became my guardians and I live with them now. I an doing so much better. I use to not be able to sleep and my eyes I could not physically look people in the eye I would try and so I would just go lay down. It tortured me. I could not concentrate at all. I would even have a hard time pulling up my sheets because I was so messed up. I thankfully now I am much better. My old meds mayed it to where I couldn't see words or And it was scary. My meds also made me gain 40 lbs. They even put me on battery acid and would constantly check my ph levels to see how I was doing. Made me so ill. I don't have those problems now. I am doing so much better. Still have problems now and then. You start to get really hot and overheated and the heart feels like it dropped into your stomach. Fight or flight. I really had to lay down a lot. I also have physical problems now. It is a lot to handle. I just push through no matter hiw I feel. I believe mental health is more important than physical. Yes they both are important but if you don't have the monds set it is like trying to get a restraining order but thst is impossible. I believe it is worse mentally. Also when people think your a threat to society. There are a lot if people out there that are and I went to the psy ward and my roommate almost killed me. I am scared of those places. It is like prison which I have never been to, but the treatment is the same and each one is different. They had to moderate my meds is one reason I went there. One gave us waterbottles and would check how much we drank. The other gave you no drinks just a drinking fountain. They are so different how they treat people. Never in a million years I would believe this was what my future would be, but you know I am better now and have staff that care about me. Makes a world difference than the ones just giving you 50 pills for all the side effects of each one and getting sick. My Dr us really helpful she cares. Anywho, I don't tell people especially non Christians because I don't want them to think people who are Christian are crazy and 2 because of rejection and lack of trust. I hope you get to feeling better it is the best in the world. Don't give up. It may take a long time. It is very hard, but worth the out come. I thought it would never go away. I don't know ifvit will again or not, but at least I got a break from it. Keep it real. Praying for you.

 

[citrus]

Keep fighting it.

 

[Christ_empowered]

Praying for you too citrus …