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Eating of pork


Despite eating of pork prohibited in the Bible, Christians do eat it!!!!!

The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus

"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".

"Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."[Leviticus 11:7-8]

Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."
[Deuteronomy 14:8]

A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.



Here the reasons why is the eating of pork forbidden in Islam

1-. Pork prohibited in Qur’an

The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah." [Al-Qur’an 5:3]

The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.

2. Consumption of pork causes several diseases

The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.

Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.


3. Pork has fat building material

Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.


4. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth

The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.

Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.


5. Pig is the most shameless animal

The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs. We Indians look upon America to be very advanced and sophisticated. Whatever they do, we follow after a few years. According to an article in Island magazine, this practice of swapping wives has become common in the affluent circles of Bombay.
 
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I would like to know why the Bible says that Jesus came not to change the law but to fulfil it, then how come Christians eat pork????????????....it is forbidden in the Bible.

But then I have come to know, that since they are automatically forgiven for their sins since they accepted Jesus in their heart, that no matter what they do, they will say they are always forgiven....totally taking advantage of God.


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hopefearmercy said:

I would like to know why the Bible says that Jesus came not to change the law but to fulfil it, then how come Christians eat pork????????????....it is forbidden in the Bible.

But then I have come to know, that since they are automatically forgiven for their sins since they accepted Jesus in their heart, that no matter what they do, they will say they are always forgiven....totally taking advantage of God.


hopefearmercy
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what ever former you are its not a christian because then you would know this scripture.
Matthew 15
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable. 16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:
And besides that don't think that your so saved because you don't eat pork. You have to be cleansed clean in the blood of YESHUA to even enter heaven, and thats something your so-called prophet didn't know about or understood did he is it mention in the Qur'an?
Shalom and love from a former atheist and very lost but now I'm saved in the name of YESHUA allelu-yah
 
Christians need to study this quote very deeply. Specially if you are claiming to be following Jesus.


Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."


Christians claim to love and follow Jesus, then why are they still eating pork when Jesus himself did not eat pork and never authorized it while he was around. In light of the above quote of Jesus, he never came to change the laws that were already in the Old Testament, rather he came to fulfill them.
they will never be able to find Jesus' quote in the Bible that give them permissibility for breaking those commandments
 
In the matter of whether the law of Moses was done away with by Christ, confusion results from failing to distinguish several things.

There is a confusion of time.

  • During his lifetime, Jesus always kept the law of Moses himself, including offering sacrifices to the Jewish priests (Matthew 8:4), attending Jewish festivals (John 7:10), and eating the Passover lamb (Matthew 26:19). He did on occasion violate the pharisaical (and false) traditions that had grown up around the law (Matthew 5:43-44), chiding them, “You have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition†(Matthew 15:6). The verses that indicate the law has been fulfilled refer to after the Cross when there is “neither Jew nor Greek . . . for you are all one in Christ Jesus†(Galatians 3:28).
There is a confusion of aspect.

  • At least some of the references (if not all) to the law being done away with in the New Testament are speaking of Old Testament ceremonies and types. These ceremonial and typological aspects of the Old Testament law of Moses were clearly done away with when Jesus, our Passover lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7), fulfilled the law’s types and predictions about his first coming (Hebrews 7 to Hebrews 10). Jesus himself apparently did away with the ceremonial law by declaring all meats clean (Mark 7:19). In this sense, believers are clearly not under the law of Moses.
There is a confusion about context.

  • Even when the moral dimensions of the law are discussed, there is a confusion. For example, not only did Jesus fulfill the moral demands of the law for us (Romans 8:2-4), but the national and theocratic context in which God’s moral principles were expressed in the Old Testament no longer apply to Christians today. For example, we are not under the commands as Moses expressed them for Israel, since, when expressed for them in the Ten Commandments, it had as its reward that the Jews would live “long upon the land [of Palestine] which the Lord your God is giving you [Israelites]†(e.g., Exodus 20:12). When the moral principle expressed in this Old Testament commandment is stated in the New Testament, it is expressed in a different context, namely, one that is not national or theocratic, but is personal and universal. For all persons who honor their parents, Paul declares that they will “live long on the earth†(Ephesians 6:3). Likewise, Christians are no longer under the commandment of Moses to worship on Saturday (Exodus 20:8-11). Since the resurrection, post-resurrection appearances, and ascension were all on Sunday, Christians worship on Sunday instead (see Acts 20:7 ; 1 Corinthians 16:2). Sabbath worship, declared Paul, was only an Old Testament “shadow†of the real substance that was inaugurated by Christ (Colossians 2:16-17). Since even the Ten Commandments as such were expressed in a national Jewish, theocratic framework, the New Testament can speak correctly about that which was “engraved on stones†being “taken away in Christ†(2 Corinthians 3:7 , 2 Corinthians 3:13-14).
However, this does not mean that the moral principles embodied in the Commandments, that reflect the very nature of an unchanging God, are not still binding on believers today. Indeed, every one of these principles contained in the Ten Commandments is restated in another context in the New Testament, except of course the command to rest and worship on Saturday. Christians today are no more under the Ten Commandments as given by Moses to Israel than we are under the Mosaic Law’s requirement to be circumcised (see Acts 15 ; Galatians 3) or to bring a lamb to the temple in Jerusalem for sacrifice. Hebrews 7:12 declares that “when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law†and “the former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless†(Hebrews 7:18). The law was only a “shadow†and the “substance†is found in Christ (Colossians 2:17).

Jesus’ disciples clearly rejected much of the Old Testament law, including circumcision (Acts 15 ; Galatians 5:6 ; Galatians 6:15). Indeed, Paul declared that “You are not under law but under grace†(Romans 6:14) and that the Ten Commandments engraved in stone have been “taken away in Christ†(2 Corinthians 3:14). The fact that we are bound by similar moral laws against adultery, lying, stealing, and murder no more proves we are still under the Ten Commandments than the fact that there are similar traffic laws in North Carolina and Texas proves that a Texan is under the laws of North Carolina. The truth is that when one violates the speed laws in Texas he has not thereby violated a similar law in North Carolina, nor is he thereby bound by the penalties of such laws in North Carolina. In like manner, although both the Old and New Testaments speak against adultery, nevertheless, the penalty was differentâ€â€capital punishment in the Old Testament (Leviticus. 20:10) and only excommunication from the church in the New Testament (1 Corinthians 5), with the hope of restoration upon repentance (2 Corinthians 2:6-8).

Source: Geisler, N. L., & Rhodes, R. (1997). When cultists ask : A popular handbook on cultic misinterpretations (Page 97)
 
Muhsen said:
Christians claim to love and follow Jesus, then why are they still eating pork when Jesus himself did not eat pork and never authorized it while he was around. In light of the above quote of Jesus, he never came to change the laws that were already in the Old Testament, rather he came to fulfill them. They will never be able to find Jesus' quote in the Bible that give them permissibility for breaking those commandments.
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Wrong again.....

Mark 7:14-23

  • After He called the crowd to Him again, He began saying to them, "Listen to Me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside the man which can defile him if it goes into him; but the things which proceed out of the man are what defile the man."

    When he had left the crowd and entered the house, His disciples questioned Him about the parable.

    And He said to them, "Are you so lacking in understanding also? Do you not understand that whatever goes into the man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?" (Thus He declared all foods clean.)

    And He was saying, "That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness. All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man."
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LOL, does that means including eating of pork, If this including eating of pork, so you indeed show more contradictions in the bible, if not, you try to find a justification to eat the pork.

"Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."[Leviticus 11:7-8]

Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."
[Deuteronomy 14:8]

A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.
 
Some people are aware of this prohibition from God, but they say that they can eat pork because St. Paul said that all food is clean in his letter to the Romans 14:20. St. Paul said this because he believed (as he wrote in his letter to the Ephesians 2:14-15) that Jesus had abolished the Law with all its commandments and regulations.
He seems, however, to have misunderstood what he heard about Jesus. In the Gospel According to Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is reported to have said quite the contrary, as follows: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law . . . .

" Jesus then went on in that passage (in verse 19) to denounce anyone who would break the smallest commandment and teach others
likewise. He also praised his true followers who will practice and teach even the smallest commandment.

One of the commandments, as we have seen, is to stay away from pork.
This is why the true followers of Jesus, holding on to his teachings, did not let unclean food such as pork enter their mouths, so that Peter, the chief disciple, can say, “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean†(Acts of the Apostles, ch. 10, v. 14)

Five chapters later in the Acts of the Apostles, 15:29, we find that the original disciples still differentiate between clean and unclean foods, and this time Paul is in agreement with them. Six chapters later, in ch. 21, v. 25, their decision to impose food regulations on believers is mentioned without regret, and this time Paul is challenged to prove that he is in agreement with them; and he demonstrated his full agreement with them.

What remains, then, is that Jesus, on whom be peace, upheld the prohibition against pork. His disciples also upheld it, and so must all his followers. Those who fail to uphold it need to be informed and reminded of this rule from God.
This is one reason why God sent His final messenger, on whom be peace. God says:

“O people of the Scripture ! Now has Our Messenger come unto you, expounding unto you much of that which you used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. Now has come unto you light from Allah and a plain Scripture.†(The Meaning of the Glorious Qur’an 5:15).
 
I have already shown what Jesus taught about "clean" and "unclean"
http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... 459#186459

What you fail to understand is that Jesus FULFILLED the law....

Over and over the New Testament tells us that the law could not make anyone righteous. Jesus had to do what the law could not. "Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, that we may be justified by faith" (Galatians 3:24).

The Law only pointed to righteousness, but Jesus Christ gives us righteousness, His own righteousness.

The judicial law and the ceremonial law were FULFILLED and set aside. They ended at the cross. But the moral law fulfilled by Jesus Christ is still being fulfilled through His disciples.

Because Jesus fulfilled the law, so can those who belong to Him. God sent "His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit" (Romans 8:3-4).

When we walk in the Spirit we fulfill the righteousness of the law, because Christ in us fulfills it with His own righteousness which He has given to us.

Muhsen, I trust and believe Jesus Christ. He FULFILLED the law. Muhammad could never do that. Muhammad was deceitful and a murderer. I follow Jesus. You can follow Jesus as well.

Read about Jesus.... - Matthew - CLICK HERE -

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Muhsen said:
Christians need to study this quote very deeply. Specially if you are claiming to be following Jesus.
As usualy you have clue as to what your talking about do you? And we have to study Matthew very deeply do we now? Lets se my friend what we have to study very deeply shall we and you can do the same because it concerns you and your futur.
But first I have ask just who do you think you are giving us the Christians lectur in our own Bible you don't even have a clue about Christianty other than what some imam have been telling you on-line.
The Jews have still till this day a diet law which include the prohibition against eating pork lets se if the Christians have the same shall we

Matthew 5:17-18 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
And who did YESHUA say this to? To the Jews or the Gentils since at that time there were no Christians only Jews or should I say Israelis.
Acts 15

1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, (here the gentiles) and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
12 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
19 Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment
25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, (this is what you have to study very deeply because every time you eat the meat you have been blessing in the name of allah your eating meat offered to idols because allah is an idol so guess what we are not so bad of we the Christians as you the muslims so next time you eat make sure that the meat hasn't been blessed in the name of allah in one of those halal slaugther houses)
and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle:
31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.
32 And Judas and Silas, being prophets also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them
Christians claim to love and follow Jesus, then why are they still eating pork when Jesus himself did not eat pork and never authorized it while he was around. In light of the above quote of Jesus, he never came to change the laws that were already in the Old Testament, rather he came to fulfill them.
they will never be able to find Jesus' quote in the Bible that give them permissibility for breaking those commandments
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I find it somewhat ironic that Islam would trouble Christians over what they eat.

It seems to me that Islam 'has enough on its plate' dealing with the murderers that, according to some Muslims, distort the teaching of Islam. Very well then- focus your attention on your own group, and cease troubling us over table fare.

Unless you think what goes into the stomach is more important than innocent lives and eternal destinies.

BTW- I don't eat pork. I do not drink alcohol- but Christ has entrusted me with the choices and with the wisdom to understand and implement moderation. The watchwords of Christianity are temperance, love and faith. The watchword of Islam is submission, ie control.

I am a bond servant, not a slave. Islam will never understand what this means.
 
Levitical laws are for Jews not Christians.

Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Acts 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

Acts 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

If you want to obey Christ who was God manifest in the flesh then have no fellowship with the promoters of Islam.

Here is why...

1 Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

Allah is a devil that is worshipped by those who are in need of salvation.

And by the way...

There is no such thing as a former Christian.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

If you alleged Muslims don't like it...feel free to leave...


I promise you will not be missed... 8-)
 
Christians claim to love and follow Jesus, then why are they still eating pork when Jesus himself did not eat pork and never authorized it while he was around.
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...Uh, that's not entirely true. Jesus Himself did point out that "...it is not what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but rather, what comes out of him." (In this way, Jesus declared all foods were fit to be eaten.)

Pork is unclean if you believe it to be. It's more of a Jewish taboo than a Christian one, but I personally feel that it is a silly point to contend with God over. I already know in my heart that it can be eaten if you believe the above quoted Scripture.
 
bibleberean said:
Levitical laws are for Jews not Christians.

Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:

Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Acts 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

Acts 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

If you want to obey Christ who was God manifest in the flesh then have no fellowship with the promoters of Islam.

Here is why...

1 Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

Allah is a devil that is worshipped by those who are in need of salvation.

And by the way...

There is no such thing as a former Christian.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

If you alleged Muslims don't like it...feel free to leave...


I promise you will not be missed... 8-)
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Paul Distorted Yashu'a Teachings .

Yes , God of The Holy Bible declare the swine ( hog , pig , pork ) unclean and prohibits the eating or consumption of the swine , flesh '' meat '' The Aramic / Hebrew word for swine is
kha-zeer . As you can see Elohyeem '' God '' did not change the name of this unclean creature the pig . Elohyeem '' God '' order humans in Leviticus ( which means the law ) in Chapter 11 verse 7-8 , not to eat or touch swine's flesh .

Leviticus 11; 7- 8 And I Quote ; And the swine, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. 8 Of their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch; they are unclean to you.

John 1 ; 17 , And I Quote ; For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Also Read Luke 24 ; 44 And I Quote ; Then he said to them, "These are my words which I spoke to you, while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled."
It is very clear from the word out of Yashu'a own mouth that he kept the law of Moses

Matthew 5 ; 17 And I Quote ; Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them.

He was of the seed of David Matthew 1 ;1 And I Quote ; The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.
Making him not just of the tribe of Judah , but also an Israelite living by the laws of the Israelite , a Hebrew ,The prophetical book of Isaiah confirms these laws about swine being an abomination ,

Isaiah 66 ; 17 And I Quote ; "Those who sanctify and purify themselves to go into the gardens, following one in the midst, eating swine's flesh and the abomination and mice, shall come to an end together, says the LORD.

Isaiah 65 ; 3- 4 And I Quote ; a people who provoke me to my face continually, sacrificing in gardens and burning incense upon bricks; 4 who sit in tombs, and spend the night in secret places; who eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels
The God of Abraham ( 2078 - 1903 B.C.E. ) Isaac ( 1978 - 1798 B.C.E. ) Jacob ( 1918 - 1771 B.C.E. ) And Mose ( 1593 - 1473 B.C.E. ) commanded his chosen people not to eat pig's flesh , not to even touch it , which means they couldn't even sell it to others , And Yashu'a followed those laws ,

Lev 11; 7 , And I Quote ; And the swine, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you

Deu 14 ; 8 And I Quote ; And the swine, because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud, is unclean for you. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch.

Isa 65 ; 4 And I Quote ; who sit in tombs, and spend the night in secret places; who eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels
So at what point did the true devotees of Yashu'a change the law before it was fulfilled ? Who stepped into their lives and influenced them to break the of Moses given to him by the Creator of all things and the faith of the children of Israel ? It clearly says the law will not

perish in Jeremiah 18 ;18 And I Quote ; Then they said, "Come, let us make plots against Jeremiah, for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come, let us smite him with the tongue, and let us not heed any of his words."

Also , The Holy Bible says keep the law in Deuteronomy 17; 19 And I Quote ; and it shall be with him, and he shall read in it all the days of his life, that he may learn to fear the LORD his God, by keeping all the words of this law and these statutes, and doing them;

Deuteronomy 30 ; 10 And I Quote ; if you obey the voice of the LORD your God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, if you turn to the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Joshua 22; 5 And I Quote ; Take good care to observe the commandment and the law which Moses the servant of the LORD commanded you, to love the LORD your God, and to walk in all his ways, and to keep his commandments, and to cleave to him, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul."

Joshua 23 ; 6 And I Quote ; Therefore be very steadfast to keep and do all that is written in the book of the law of Moses, turning aside from it neither to the right hand nor to the left,

1Kings 2 ; 3 And I Quote ; and keep the charge of the LORD your God, walking in his ways and keeping his statutes, his commandments, his ordinances, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that you may prosper in all that you do and wherever you turn

2Kings 17 ; 3 And I Quote ; Against him came up Shalmane'ser king of Assyria; and Hoshe'a became his vassal, and paid him tribute.

1Chronicles 22 ; 12 And I Quote ; Only, may the LORD grant you discretion and understanding, that when he gives you charge over Israel you may keep the law of the LORD your God.

Psalms 119 ; 34 And I Quote ; Give me understanding, that I may keep thy law and observe it with my whole heart

Psalms 119 ; 44 And I Quote ; I will keep thy law continually, for ever and ever;


So How Did Paul Justify Eating Pork Let Me Try To Explain It . It is know that Paul was a Levitical officer or in other words , a Reform Jew , who lived by the laws under the land controlled by the Romans , Therefore he ate pork and liked it 2Corinthians 10;16 And I Quote ; so that we may preach the gospel in lands beyond you, without boasting of work already done in another's field.

Paul tried to use this verse to justify eating pork and break the law . So he though of a way to keep it in his new gospel . Remember Paul said you can eat anthing in Romans 14 ; 2 And I Quote ; One believes he may eat anything, while the weak man eats only vegetables.

Many people like to use Matthew 15 ; 11 ,
To advocate following Paul and also break the law . Yashu'a said in Matthew 15 ; 11 And I Quote ; not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man."
What Is Matthew 15 ; 11 If it isn't referring to if it is not talking about food ? It is also talking about the law , the law coming out of your mouth . And the law going into your heart in your

body , the priest or man Jeremiah 31 ; 33 And I Quote ; But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it upon their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Job 22 ; 22 And I Quite ; Receive instruction from his mouth, and lay up his words in your heart.

Psalms 119 ; 72 , And I Quote ; The law of thy mouth is better to me than thousands of gold and silver pieces.

Malachi 2 ; 7 And I Quote ; For the lips of a priest should guard knowledge, and men should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts.
Note in John again written after Paul's books , Yashu'a himself says in John 10 ; 34 '' Is not written in your LAW
Matthew 4;4 And I Quote ; But he answered, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'"

Luke 4 ; 4 And I Quote ; And Jesus answered him, "It is written, 'Man shall not live by bread alone.

Revelation 10 ; 9 And I Quote ; So I went to the angel and told him to give me the little scroll; and he said to me, "Take it and eat; it will be bitter to your stomach, but sweet as honey in your mouth."

Galatians 3 ; 10 -11 And I Quote ; For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be every one who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, and do them." 11 Now it is evident that no man is justified before God by the law; for "He who through faith is righteous shall live";

So Yashu'a follow the law and Paul doesn't . In 1Corinthians 15 ; 55 he teaches that the only way to overcome the fear of death is by keeping the law , It is clear that this man's intention was to confuse the laws of Yashua .


So how did Paul justify abolishing the law of Moses ? Simple , because Paul said that the law ended with Yashu'a Roman 10 ; 4 And I Quote ;
Also in Romans 7 ; 2 & 4 And I Quote ; Verse 2 . Thus a married woman is bound by law to her husband as long as he lives; but if her husband dies she is discharged from the law concerning the husband.
In this verse , Paul is saying that as long as the husband of the woman is alve then the law binds her to him . But if her husband is to die then the law noger bind her to him .

Romans 7 ; 2 & 4 And I Quote ; Verse 4 . Likewise, my brethren, you have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead in order that we may bear fruit for God.
Now notice how Paul is comparing Yashu'a to a widowed woman , Stating simply that since he claims that Yashu'a is dead then the law died with him . These words are not words from a follower of Yashu'a , For any follower of Yashu'a knows that he is not dead .
 
Zakariyaa,

That has already answered. Are you a Christian, Jew, are other?


Most of the Old Testament laws are for Jews not Christians.

Acts 15:23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia:


Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:


Acts 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,

Acts 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.

Acts 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Acts 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

If you want to obey Christ who was God manifest in the flesh then have no fellowship with the promoters of Islam.

Here is why...

1 Corinthians 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

Allah is a devil that is worshipped by those who are in need of salvation.

And by the way...

There is no such thing as a former Christian.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

If you alleged Muslims don't like it...feel free to leave...
 
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