Failed prophecies?

[paulo75]

From my research, these prophecies did not happen:

Failure of Ezekiel's "Tyre Prophecy".
Ezekiel falsely predicted that Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon would take and permanently destroy Tyre. But Tyre survived Nebby's 13-year siege.

Failure of Ezekiel's "Egypt Prophecy".
After the failure of the Tyre prophecy, Ezekiel promised Egypt to Nebby as compensation. Nebby was to ransack Egypt so thoroughly that it would be uninhabited for 40 years. Historical records show that this did not happen.

Failure of the "Babylon Prophecy" (Isaiah and Jeremiah).
Both of these prophesied that the Medes would take and permanently destroy Babylon. But the Medes were conquered by the Persians, who then went on to peacefully take (and not destroy) Babylon.

Can someone correct me?

 

[Gabbylittleangel]

Can you tell us something about the research that you did? What were your resources? Were they faith based scholars, secular humanist or perhaps atheist?

It is usually helpful to include Scripture references with your questions. Can you tell us what passage you are refering to? We also tend to like to know if you are using the KJV, or NIV, etc.

 

[paulo75]

I will admit that I did hear those "failures" from an atheist site. I'd like to get clarification on these prophecies so I can refute.

 

[Hugo]

paulo75, these appear to be more atheist internet claptrap.

The following article presents an interesting angle on the first prophecy that you list:

→ http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/3077 â†Â

Have you tried searching for "apologetics ezekiel tyre prophecy" on Google? There are several search results that look promising.

 

[Gabbylittleangel]

I will admit that I did hear those "failures" from an atheist site. I'd like to get clarification on these prophecies so I can refute.

My advice: Answer not a fool according to his folly.

Although I have fallen into this trap myself before, Perhaps you can learn from my mistakes. If someone can not get past Genesis 1:1, there is no point in discussing prophesy with them. Perhaps God can use you to turn a conversation concerning Babylon prophesies so that they find their way to the cross from there, but if that is the case, you need to pray your way through that.

The devil will get you into debates where you are answering questions about algebra, trigonometry and calculus with people who can not count to ten, or add and subtract. In doing this, he keeps you busy spinning your wheels, and keeps you from being about the Fathers business.

 

[tim-from-pa]

The devil will get you into debates where you are answering questions about algebra, trigonometry and calculus with people who can not count to ten, or add and subtract. In doing this, he keeps you busy spinning your wheels, and keeps you from being about the Fathers business.

I love that math analogy. I did this myself on occasion coming from a math fan here. One of my favorites is when I claim people want me to go back from spiritual calculus to spiritual arithmetic. :-D

 

[cyberjosh]

I'll have to get back to you on the other ones but:

Failure of Ezekiel's "Tyre Prophecy".
Ezekiel falsely predicted that Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon would take and permanently destroy Tyre. But Tyre survived Nebby's 13-year siege.

This person is right that Nebuchadnezzar didn't fully destroy Tyre, but the genius that they are they stopped there. Later Alexander the Great laid seige against it (he build an artificial land bridge just to do it too) and completely demolished Tyre (which was a major port city roughly 1 mile off shore, if I recall correctly).

 

[cyberjosh]

The one about the Medes is an interesting one. The Medes were indeed conquered by the Persians, but according to the Biblical record the Medes also had ruling positions in the Persian empire. Darius, the King of Bablylon in the book of Daniel, was a Mede - for example. As for the destruction of Babylon, this like many other prophecies probably has yet to be fulfilled. Though the distinct peoples once known as the Medes do not exist the ethnic group does (modern day Iran). This might be fulfilled by an Iranian invasion of Iraq (something which, actually, newscasters and politicians have speculated might happen if the US withdraws troops prematurely before Iraq has a chance to stablize itself and not be prey to the strongest nation around it: Iran).