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Hi Jethro

This may be the 1st time we agree--good scriptural answer!
 
Maybe they had the Lord misrepresented to them by other people, believers and non-believers alike. The world has a pretty skewed picture of God, it's hard to trust someone you've never met.

Perhaps they rely on themselves. Relying on someone is basically weakness and vulnerability.

They could have tried putting their trust in the Lord in the past, but it looked like it failed. Once burned, twice shy.

It's hard to trust. The degree of trust is also a factor. I find myself saying, "I'll trust God this far. Then I think I can take over".
Sometimes I don't feel like I'm really distrusting God, I tell myself that God simply shouldn't have to deal with such small issues that I'm facing, therefore I should take care of it myself.
But God wants us to trust Him for everything, the biggest and the smallest things. I think it's the fact that we have to surrender everything and anything to be able to say that we trust Him, is what makes 'trust' so hard.
 
Moxie said:
Maybe they had the Lord misrepresented to them by other people, believers and non-believers alike. The world has a pretty skewed picture of God, it's hard to trust someone you've never met.

Perhaps they rely on themselves. Relying on someone is basically weakness and vulnerability.

They could have tried putting their trust in the Lord in the past, but it looked like it failed. Once burned, twice shy.

It's hard to trust. The degree of trust is also a factor. I find myself saying, "I'll trust God this far. Then I think I can take over".
Sometimes I don't feel like I'm really distrusting God, I tell myself that God simply shouldn't have to deal with such small issues that I'm facing, therefore I should take care of it myself.
But God wants us to trust Him for everything, the biggest and the smallest things. I think it's the fact that we have to surrender everything and anything to be able to say that we trust Him, is what makes 'trust' so hard.
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You said, "Maybe they had the Lord misrepresented to them by other people, believers and non-believers alike. The world has a pretty skewed picture of God, ..." I think there is a lot of truth in this.
 
elijah23 said:
Why do so many people distrust the Lord?
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Also because we tend to trust ourselves instead of Christ.


Edit: I guess that's pretty much what Jethro was saying, wasn't it?
 
Elijah

And the denominational man-made religion that calls itself Christianity, with its philosophies and Biblical interpretations, isn't helping any. When I talk to too many Christians who believe in the religion more than in the God it's suppose to represent, when I talk to non-Christians who only know God through that religion.... That's when I say to myself, "Self, the situation is a lot worse than John 3:19. I am more apt to ask the question "where is the light shining today"? Does the Bible describe the nature of that light, or is the religion the candlestick for that light? If it's the religion, I've already rejected that light. And because of that, many Christians would categorize me as one who distrusts God. Especially those who believe that it was Jesus Christ who started the man-made religion.

Sincerly,

Former Christian
 
EVERYBODY "Distrusts the Lord" to begin with.

It's the way we're "Wired".

Psa 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

AND, of course 99% of what the church CALLS "FAITH" ain't. It's really nothing more than Intellectual belief based in ignorance, and a dose of "HOPE".

One only TRUSTS the Lord in FAITH when God Reveals Himself to the individual. Simple as that.
 
elijah23 said:
Why do so many people distrust the Lord?
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The reasons why people don't trust the Lord is probably as vairied as there are people. I would pose these may be the reasons high on the list of why people don't trust Jesus.

People do not know the Lord. Reading the Bible is simply an intellectual exercise, and no faith is put into what it says.

People love their sins too much. Why should I give up my will? After all, isn't Christianity nothing but a kill joy? I can't do this, thou shall not do that.

People are too ashamed of their sins. Pride will keep most people from trusting in the Lord. God can't possibly forgive me, because I have done so many bad things even after thinking at some time I was a Christian.

Another form of pride is I am a good person, God will forgive me, because my good deeds out weigh my bad deeds. In some form, the person relies on himself because it affects his self worth.

Just a few examples,

- Davies
 
The reason why people ditrust God is they have a false image of God which they accepted when they Satan tricked mankind into eating of the knowledge of good and evil. For he implied God was keeping us from becoming like Him, a sentiment that makes one think God is of a corruptible nature.
 
Former Christian said:
Elijah

And the denominational man-made religion that calls itself Christianity, with its philosophies and Biblical interpretations, isn't helping any. When I talk to too many Christians who believe in the religion more than in the God it's suppose to represent, when I talk to non-Christians who only know God through that religion.... That's when I say to myself, "Self, the situation is a lot worse than John 3:19. I am more apt to ask the question "where is the light shining today"? Does the Bible describe the nature of that light, or is the religion the candlestick for that light? If it's the religion, I've already rejected that light. And because of that, many Christians would categorize me as one who distrusts God. Especially those who believe that it was Jesus Christ who started the man-made religion.

Sincerly,

Former Christian
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Some people worship the Bible rather than God. However, the Bible does contain the teachings of Jesus in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. I believe Jesus was God in flesh. The Bible contains a lot of other great wisdom.

People aren't perfect, so their attempts at constructing religion aren't perfect. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
 
childeye said:
The reason why people ditrust God is they have a false image of God which they accepted when they Satan tricked mankind into eating of the knowledge of good and evil. For he implied God was keeping us from becoming like Him, a sentiment that makes one think God is of a corruptible nature.
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Satan does like to fool with our minds, I think.
 
Former Christian said:
Elijah23

"Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

And which is what, pray tell?

FC
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If you love the the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself, I think you are doing very well.
 
Elijah23

I fail to see how

"Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

has any connection to

“love the the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourselfâ€

When you say baby, what are you referring to?

When you say bathwater, what are you referring to?

FC
 
elijah23 said:
Have you become a brain surgeon, yet, Jethro? (I hope you've watched the show enough times to know what I am talking about.)
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I guess I haven't watched it enough times. Not sure I get what you're saying.
 
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