Fiction disclaimer

[reznwerks]

"Well, I've often thought the Bible should have a disclaimer in the front saying this is fiction. I mean, walking on water, it takes an act of faith. And I have faith in this movie. Not that it's true, not that it's factual, but that it's a jolly good story. And I think audiences are clever enough and bright enough to separate out fact and fiction, and discuss the thing after they've seen it."

Ian Mc Kellen in an interview about the Da Vinci code

http://newsbusters.org/node/5402


I haven't read the book nor seen the movie but as I understand the issue involved it centers around the claim that Jesus survived his crucifixion and therefor did not die for your sins. Not that I am taking sides either way but if that did occur it would explain the lack of history for the trial and crucifixion wouldn't it?

 

[Soma-Sight]

Not that I am taking sides either way but if that did occur it would explain the lack of history for the trial and crucifixion wouldn't it?

If Jesus had kids.... where are the descendents?

 

[peace4all]

Ton's of people have kids, that don't go on to live.

I do believe Noah had kids? where are his descendents?

didn't Job have kids? Who can trace their lineage back to him?

(i might be mixing up names, I never realy studied closely which characters had kids, and which didn't, although I do know that several did)

No one today has claimed that any biblical figure is their lineage, so.......

 

[ChristineES]

Ton's of people have kids, that don't go on to live.

I do believe Noah had kids? where are his descendents?

Noah had 3 sons, names Ham, Shem, and Japheth. Abraham was a descendent of Shem. :o As we all know, the descendents of Abraham are all over the Middle east through Isaac and Ishmael. The Jews were very good at keeping geneologies.
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As for the Da Vinci Code, I haven't paid much attention to it, as it is fiction.

 

[Vic C.]

Ian Mc Kellen in an interview about the Da Vinci code

... and we care what he says because _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ...

LOL, I like some of the responses at the bottom of the page:

MrSnuggles Says:
May 17, 2006 - 17:09

So this moron is saying they shouldnt put a disclaimer at the begining of this movie telling people how bogus it is, but he thinks the bible should have one?

have celebrities really not learned to keep their mouths shut? i was willing to ignore the fact that he is gay, but now that he wants to bash christianity im afraid i wont be seeing any more of his movies.

and:

futbolisgreat Says:
May 17, 2006 - 17:17

I wish that idiots like him keep on talking and putting their foot in their mouth.

I honestly do not believe that the movie is going to make any huge amount of money, break any Hollywood records, etc, etc. especially with comments like this idiot just made....

Now, I don't agree with the name-calling, but ... 8-)

...No one today has claimed that any biblical figure is their lineage, so.......

Not true. Saddam Hussein claims lineage back to King Nebuchadnezzar and Hitler's lineage has been traced back to Japheth. That's just for starters.

 

[ArtGuy]

Not true. Saddam Hussein claims lineage back to King Nebuchadnezzar and Hitler's lineage has been traced back to Japheth. That's just for starters.

I wouldn't trust much of what Saddam claims, would you?

As to Hitler, it's a little misleading to say that his lineage has been "traced" back to Japheth, as that makes it sound as if we have a long list of his ancestors going, unbroken, back to Noah. His lineage has only been so "traced" to the extent that, if we assume that Japheth actually existed, then his descendents most likely settled somewhere in Europe, and spawned the European civilizations. It's sort of like saying that you've traced your lineage back to Adam.

There are some people who have allegedly traced their lineages directly to near-Biblical times, so it could theoretically be done. It's just extremely rare for someone to go back anywhere near that far, and it gets extremely difficult the further back you go.

 

[Vic C.]

I wouldn't trust much of what Saddam claims, would you?

As to Hitler, it's a little misleading to say that his lineage has been "traced" back to Japheth, as that makes it sound as if we have a long list of his ancestors going, unbroken, back to Noah. His lineage has only been so "traced" to the extent that, if we assume that Japheth actually existed, then his descendents most likely settled somewhere in Europe, and spawned the European civilizations. It's sort of like saying that you've traced your lineage back to Adam.

The emphesis was on "claimed". :-? P4all never said "proved"; he said "claimed".

No one today has claimed that any biblical figure is their lineage

Why bring up Noah? p4all said, "...any biblical figure...". Japheth is a Biblical figure.

Some believe they can trace us to apes. Maybe they're on to something. :

 

[ChristineES]

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Why bring up Noah? p4all said, "...any biblical figure...". Japheth is a Biblical figure.

Some believe they can trace us to apes. Maybe they're on to something. :

I studied Physical Anthro, and they say that apes and humans have a common ancestor, not that we can be traced to apes. : : :

 

[peace4all]

Yes. There are a few peoplke (usually fundamentalists) that believe that it is evolutionary theory, that Man came from monkeys. anyone with an education (in a public school) past grade 10, should know the words "common ancestor"

ANywho.. What I mean to say is... People can point out usually up to what, 10 generations of their familly, if LUCKY. The only ones that can really go farther, are the exceedingly wealthy, who have been in wealthy families for, well, forever.

Going back to biblical times, 3000 years, is well. Impossible.

 

[ArtGuy]

Why bring up Noah? p4all said, "...any biblical figure...". Japheth is a Biblical figure.

Well, if your lineage can be traced to Japheth, it can be traced to Noah, yes?

Anyway, the thrust of my point was that there's a difference between saying, "So and so probably came from this biblical figure, because we know that he settled in this area" and "We have an exhaustive ancestry list that goes, man for man, back to Japheth."