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Elijah674
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Prophets:
How did these Holy men of God get their Inspired messages put into penned words? (2 Peter 1:20-21) And are we to think that each prophet that ever wrote the Bible did so with the exact same defining of words? The reason that I ask, is that Vic has brought forward a several year old thread asking about E.G. White & the Seventh day Adventist church being a cult? With a poll offered.
I go by Elijah674 today, but in those days several years back I post under John the Baptist & also Pastor N.B. You might find the old posting very good for both Vic's questioning's & a few post that find E.G.W. believing as I do.
OK: My purpose here is trying to understand how any Christian would attack some certain writings of E.G. White because they have a problem with the person explaining of the 'vision' or its time/frame that they say that they received from God, while they will not hold the Inspired Writer's of the Bible to the same claim?
There are a great number of things printed by EGW's pen that Vic states, that make her a false prophet. If Vic will just post up a short list of 3 or 4 at a time, I will answer the posting as I understand it. And you can judge for yourself E.G.W & Vic's understanding?
Let me ask you about visions first? Lets say if all Inspired penman of the 66 Books of the Bible (and no, God spoke directly to some) had a vision from God about any Doctrine. We do know that these same Inspired men wrote on the same subject many times all through the Bible. They did indeed give their TESTIMONY! OK: did they all write it exactly alike? And in Eze. 1:1 we see visions given to Ezekiel. He even says in verse 14... 'And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightening.' Cannot all of Inspired folks put into their own words as they 'individually' saw it without being called a false Prophet or a cult??
And 'wings'? And Ezekiel 3:13's has Ezekiel seeing 'wings of the living creatures'. And Amos 9:1 Amos has 'seen' .. 'I saw the Lord standing upon the altar.' And these are actual happenings Vic thinks?? Yet, all the Prophets that wrote the Bible sure put what they saw, in their own words describing the vision. But not EGW, huh? She would be a false Prophet? We even find some Bible Prophets using strong human words which this site blocks out. And surely we do not believe that the Holy Spirit uses such words, do you??
And just one more in the N.T. side has Peter in Acts 10 having a [three time vision] from God. Was it clear what the vision meant? And God's Words or pictures? THREE times mind you, and Peter did not understand the Vision still! Yet you do understand what EGW printed that she saw from God, & want to toss [ALL] of her work out as being a false Prophet! What is interesting here with this three time vision, is that many of the 2011 ones who are even preachers, still 'teach' that you can eat whatever you please. Anyway, do you toss out all of Peter's pen because he did not understand [yet] what God was meaning?
OK:
Vic, thanks for bringing this back out to the for/front, I kind of expected something like this when I sent a set of five E.G.W. penned books to a friend of mine on your site here.
Where ever you want to 'locate' this at is ok with me. End Time, Bible study for false Prophet? Theology or wherever? And surely we need any one posting their remarks that wants questions discussed.
It would be nice to give the Book of the remark in documentation as Vic has done. If any want to paste up just one or two of his questions that would be great. And please REMEMBER that one of the greatest Prophets that ever lived & was even translated, is said by James in James 5:17 that he '.. was a man subject to like passions as we are,..'
--Elijah
How did these Holy men of God get their Inspired messages put into penned words? (2 Peter 1:20-21) And are we to think that each prophet that ever wrote the Bible did so with the exact same defining of words? The reason that I ask, is that Vic has brought forward a several year old thread asking about E.G. White & the Seventh day Adventist church being a cult? With a poll offered.
I go by Elijah674 today, but in those days several years back I post under John the Baptist & also Pastor N.B. You might find the old posting very good for both Vic's questioning's & a few post that find E.G.W. believing as I do.
OK: My purpose here is trying to understand how any Christian would attack some certain writings of E.G. White because they have a problem with the person explaining of the 'vision' or its time/frame that they say that they received from God, while they will not hold the Inspired Writer's of the Bible to the same claim?
There are a great number of things printed by EGW's pen that Vic states, that make her a false prophet. If Vic will just post up a short list of 3 or 4 at a time, I will answer the posting as I understand it. And you can judge for yourself E.G.W & Vic's understanding?
Let me ask you about visions first? Lets say if all Inspired penman of the 66 Books of the Bible (and no, God spoke directly to some) had a vision from God about any Doctrine. We do know that these same Inspired men wrote on the same subject many times all through the Bible. They did indeed give their TESTIMONY! OK: did they all write it exactly alike? And in Eze. 1:1 we see visions given to Ezekiel. He even says in verse 14... 'And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightening.' Cannot all of Inspired folks put into their own words as they 'individually' saw it without being called a false Prophet or a cult??
And 'wings'? And Ezekiel 3:13's has Ezekiel seeing 'wings of the living creatures'. And Amos 9:1 Amos has 'seen' .. 'I saw the Lord standing upon the altar.' And these are actual happenings Vic thinks?? Yet, all the Prophets that wrote the Bible sure put what they saw, in their own words describing the vision. But not EGW, huh? She would be a false Prophet? We even find some Bible Prophets using strong human words which this site blocks out. And surely we do not believe that the Holy Spirit uses such words, do you??
And just one more in the N.T. side has Peter in Acts 10 having a [three time vision] from God. Was it clear what the vision meant? And God's Words or pictures? THREE times mind you, and Peter did not understand the Vision still! Yet you do understand what EGW printed that she saw from God, & want to toss [ALL] of her work out as being a false Prophet! What is interesting here with this three time vision, is that many of the 2011 ones who are even preachers, still 'teach' that you can eat whatever you please. Anyway, do you toss out all of Peter's pen because he did not understand [yet] what God was meaning?
OK:
Vic, thanks for bringing this back out to the for/front, I kind of expected something like this when I sent a set of five E.G.W. penned books to a friend of mine on your site here.
Where ever you want to 'locate' this at is ok with me. End Time, Bible study for false Prophet? Theology or wherever? And surely we need any one posting their remarks that wants questions discussed.
It would be nice to give the Book of the remark in documentation as Vic has done. If any want to paste up just one or two of his questions that would be great. And please REMEMBER that one of the greatest Prophets that ever lived & was even translated, is said by James in James 5:17 that he '.. was a man subject to like passions as we are,..'
--Elijah
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