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Flouride- Is it good, bad or ugly?

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Its in our food our water and our toothpaste. Do we need it or does it harm the rest of our bodies after it strenghtens our teeth.

It came to my attention about a month ago If a young child was to consume a tube of toothpaste theoretically it could kill them because of the fluoride content.

Another thing I read is fluoride calcifies our pineal gland which upsets the job it does.

i think what goes in our water is industrial waste fluoride. We drink industrial waste put there by our water companies without our consent.

What do you think?

BTW I use natural toothpaste now without it.
 
It significantly reduces rates of tooth decay I'm for it.

The pineal gland naturally holds onto flouride in the same way your teeth do. it's also extremely high in magnesium ions but I don't see you raging about the evils of that.
 
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When we adopted Thomas, not only was he on fluoridated city water, he was getting fluoride drops once a day. His teeth were dark and stained looking. We have our own well, no additives and we stopped the drops right away.

It took a while, but now his teeth are very white. However, much damage was already done and his baby teeth were filled with cavities. His permanent teeth don't have the problem. As the baby teeth fall out and his permanent teeth come in, he's slowing but surely becoming cavity free.

As long as one practices good brushing, flossing and rinsing habits, one should be keeping one's teeth healthy. Fluoride is not an essential nutrient, necessary for good health and fluoride occurs naturally in water as well as many foods. Fluoride is most certainly something that can be "overdosed" and it causes much more harm than good. I wouldn't want it in my water that's for sure...way, way to easy to get to high of an amount if it's in the water.
 
ok. well sodium fl is how we get that. also brushing with otc toothpaste it would take alot to overdose.as that is only(at the most) .4% nafl or kfl. prescription strength is 1.4%.also that act is.002% nafl.

yet the later worked for me in cavity reduction. all that does is fill in the wholes that the bacteria make. that is what flouride does. it strengthen the wood chips.
 
If I had my career choice to do over again, I'd had been a dentist. They have great schedules. Who sues their dentist? They can make a ton of money. The work is not hard, laborious, or all that challenging, and you can talk to your patients, tell them what you think and they can't say a thing.

I would encourage kids and adults not to take care of their teeth. When got done filling some kid's teeth I'd give them a bag of candy! In fact, can't understand why dentist are so concerned with us avoiding tooth decay......maybe fluoride causes tooth decay and we've been buying into the lie all this time! :p
 
Danus said:
If I had my career choice to do over again, I'd had been a dentist.


Sorry Danus, dentistry is the Rodney Dangerfield of medical professions. Just is.

Think about it...we have Dr. Welby, Dr. Kildare, Dr. Ross, Dr. Cliff Huxtable, even Doogie Howsier M.D.

Name one tv show that starred a dentist...oh yeah, there was Ric and Laura's neighbor Jerry, barely got screen time, and Jerry Robertson the dentist on the Bob Newhart show. If anything, you wanna be a dentist, you have to be named Jerry. Or Barry...the dentist on friends who wanted to marry Rachel but couldn't...she left him at the altar. She wouldn't have left Dr. Ross standing there, that's for sure.




But seriously folks...(rim shot...ok outta my system now)

maybe fluoride causes tooth decay and we've been buying into the lie all this time!
Too much fluoride does cause tooth decay! They say it's all cosmetic, but I know from personal experience that it isn't. Thomas had 15 cavities 15!!! in his baby teeth. Not one in the permanent. Difference: the only fluoride he gets is in the Colgate he brushes his teeth with and what comes naturally in food and our well water.

Here is an article worth reading on the subject. I'll pull some quotes but do check out the whole article:
Fluoride in drinking water — credited with dramatically cutting cavities and tooth decay — may now be too much of a good thing. Getting too much of it causes spots on some kids' teeth.

A reported increase in the spotting problem is one reason the federal government said Friday it plans to lower the recommended levels for fluoride in water supplies — the first such change in nearly 50 years.

About 2 out of 5 adolescents have tooth streaking or spottiness because of too much fluoride -- a condition called fluorosis -- a surprising government study found recently. In some extreme cases, teeth can even be pitted by the mineral — though many cases are so mild only dentists notice it. The problem is generally considered cosmetic.
Health officials note that most communities have fluoride in their water supplies, and toothpaste has it too. Some kids are even given fluoride supplements.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is proposing changing the recommended fluoride level to 0.7 milligrams per liter of water. And the Environmental Protection Agency will review whether the maximum cutoff of 4 milligrams per liter is too high.
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The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that the splotchy tooth condition, fluorosis, is unexpectedly common in kids ages 12 through 15. And it appears to have grown much more common since the 1980s.

"One of the things that we're most concerned about is exactly that," said an administration official who was not authorized to speak publicly before the release of the report. The official described the government's plans in an interview with The Associated Press.

But there are other concerns, too. A scientific report five years ago said that people who consume a lifetime of too much fluoride — an amount over EPA's limit of 4 milligrams — can lead to crippling bone abnormalities and brittleness.

That and other research issued Friday by the EPA about health effects of fluoride are sure to re-energize groups that still oppose adding it to water supplies.

The American Dental Association released a statement applauding the government announcement to change fluoride guidance.
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Fluorosis has generally been seen as the primary down side of fluoride.

According to the CDC, nearly 23 percent of children ages 12-15 had fluorosis in a study done in 1986 and 1987. That rose to 41 percent in the more recent study, which covered the years 1999 through 2004.

"We're not necessarily surprised to see this slow rise in mild fluorosis," Dr. William Kohn, director of the CDC's division of oral health, said in a recent interview.

Health officials have hesitated to call it a problem, however. In most kids, it's barely noticeable; even dentists have trouble seeing it, and sometimes don't bother to tell their unknowing patients.


U.S. Says too Much Fluoride in Water - CBS News
 
While Fluoride occurs naturally, the chemical composition is not the same as man-made (or I should say man altered).

Think salt. While I blast the medical establishment for "warning us of too much salt" as there is no such thing with a healthy body, there is a difference between table salt and say, sea salt. The former is more of an industrial salt and is indeed harsher on the body. That does not change my salt stance, but rather what they call "salt" is really man altered.

So, think on the same terms with fluoride. The fluoride in your well water is not the same as what man messes with and puts in your dentist's treatment. Maybe to avoid cavities we should do the same thing as with preventing colds. Not brush and floss more (or more hand washing) but rather nourish the immune system.

If you get more than one dandy cold every other year, there's a problem (forget the "averages" of the populace). And that's a bare minimum. I can't remember my last cold, or cavity, and I don't wash my hands much, and brush once a day and get no cavities. My body handles the germs that cause the cavities (and oh, watch the sugar and carbs --- you'd be better off with proteins, saturated fats, like meat and eggs over breads or too much fruit juice, sweets and whatnot)
 
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