Food and the Dying Patient

[Kathi]

I would say that euthanasia is coerced genocide in some cases.

I don't see the connect in the OP and euthanasia.

 

[jasonc]

I don't see the connect in the OP and euthanasia.

it was mentioned by some, are you aware that the doctors and the insurers make money by killing patients. its cheaper to end a man with cancer then it is to try to save him. thus they may try to convince this may be the only option of the best. this has happened in Belgium. of course a court might have to define what is coercion in their eyes. but we both know that car salesmen do strong arm you into buying.

 

[TOG]

In the face of death, food and hope are highly seductive. But once again, I was left wondering: Does our need to feed our dying loved ones blind us to what’s really best for them?

And what is best for them? Starving them to death? That's what a Florida court ordered a few years ago for Terry Schiavo.

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[jasonc]

And what is best for them? Starving them to death? That's what a Florida court ordered a few years ago for Terry Schiavo.

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she was comatose for over a decade. for comatose that the family asked to remove is exactly that.

 

[Kathi]

it was mentioned by some, are you aware that the doctors and the insurers make money by killing patients. its cheaper to end a man with cancer then it is to try to save him. thus they may try to convince this may be the only option of the best. this has happened in Belgium. of course a court might have to define what is coercion in their eyes. but we both know that car salesmen do strong arm you into buying.

I have heard of people making it very possible for those who are close to death not to do any heroic procedures because they want their organs.Then there are horror stories which I am sure are true of people killing people for their organs.There is alot of money and demand now for harvested organs.

 

[jasonc]

I have heard of people making it very possible for those who are close to death not to do any heroic procedures because they want their organs.Then there are horror stories which I am sure are true of people killing people for their organs.There is alot of money and demand now for harvested organs.

I have heard of that, but not in the us, so far.

 

[Kathi]

I have heard of that, but not in the us, so far.

Right..I do not think it is so common in the US.

 

[jasonc]

though it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Kathi]

though it wouldn't surprise me.

From what I have been reading in the news it would not surprise me either.It sounds like some horrible Steven King novel.

 

[Gary]

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[jasonc]

I forgot about those.

 

[Gary]

The human trafficking in the U.S. is not just for the sex trade. The same thing with child abductions.

 

[jasonc]

The human trafficking in the U.S. is not just for the sex trade. The same thing with child abductions.

human trafficking falls into these types:
1) labor
2) sex trade
3) child labor
4) child sex trade.

 

[Gary]

human trafficking falls into these types:
1) labor
2) sex trade
3) child labor
4) child sex trade.

So you believe it's beyond the realm of possibility that some of these children are used for human sacrifices?
.

 

[jasonc]

So you believe it's beyond the realm of possibility that some of these children are used for human sacrifices?
.

its not that likely, im ordered by the army to receive yearly trainging. that my town has Haitians whom practice voodoo. we have had three human traffick rings busted,. florida leads the way in this problem.

 

[TOG]

she was comatose for over a decade.

There was actually some debate about that. Her husband, who stood to make a lot of money from her death (at least before he used all the money he had been awarded for her care on lawyers trying to end her life) claimed that she was brain dead and not aware of her surroundings at all. Her parents and siblings, who had offered to care for her at their own expense, said that she was aware of her surroundings and reacted to them when they came to visit her. Both sides had doctors supporting their claims.

for comatose that the family asked to remove is exactly that.

Like I said, the family didn't agree. The husband wanted one thing and the rest of the family wanted another.

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[jasonc]

There was actually some debate about that. Her husband, who stood to make a lot of money from her death (at least before he used all the money he had been awarded for her care on lawyers trying to end her life) claimed that she was brain dead and not aware of her surroundings at all. Her parents and siblings, who had offered to care for her at their own expense, said that she was aware of her surroundings and reacted to them when they came to visit her. Both sides had doctors supporting their claims.



Like I said, the family didn't agree. The husband wanted one thing and the rest of the family wanted another.

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I don't agree with the decision. just stating that she was comatose. this case is why I have legal medical will. in this case I think its a dnr and also don't put me on a machine.