Göbekli Tepe and Genesis

[Alfred Persson]

Evidence of pre-Flood civilizations has been found throughout the earth, much of it still underwater. While this video makes sparse reference to Scripture, and spins a tale that is wrong according to the scripture, the actual sites fit obscure details in Genesis few have put togher.

1 Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them,
2 that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.
3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.”
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. (Gen. 6:1-4 NAS)

About sixteen hundred years after God cast Adam and Eve out of Eden (Gen. 3:24), the earth’s population (conservatively estimated) numbered in the billions. Most of the evidence of their civilization was buried by the flood of Noah’s day or now under water. A few megalithic sites survive manifesting the presence of their technologically advanced society. If today’s scientists had life spans of hundreds of years (Gen. 5:4-32) as did Antediluvians because they were shielded from cosmic radiation by a thick water canopy (Gen. 1:6-8; Job 38:9), and had over 1,600 years of global peace to advance science, it is impossible to estimate how advanced beyond today’s technology earth would be.

We can infer from Scripture and experience man rebelled against God’s forbidding access to the tree of life (Gen. 3:22-23). They sought a “work around” via genetic manipulation. The evidence for that is found in the fossil record, the terrifying monsters (Gen. 6:11-13) buried by the flood bear little resemblance to the peaceful herbivores God created on the fifth and sixth days (Gen. 1:30).

In the Days of Noah two competing factions of Angels warred, the “Sons of Elohim” (01121 בֵּן ben 0430 אֱלֹהִים ‘elohiym) “the Watchers” (Dan. 4:17) watching from their heavenly realm labored to return man to God’s good graces, while Satan’s “Fallen Ones” (05303 נְפִלִים Nephilim) walked on the earth inspiring global rebellion against God (Gen 6:1-4).

Scripture testifies God alone has immortality (1 Tim. 6:16), therefore it is impossible genetic manipulation create the “elixir of the tree of life”. So rebellious men hatched a plan to obtain immortality for their children, by their daughters seducing the Watchers who men concluded were immortal as they were unaffected by the Fall. Man conspired with Satan and his Nephilim Fallen Ones, to tempt the Watchers with porn 24/7, their beautiful daughters sexually tempting “the Watchers” to leave their heavenly abode and take human wives (Gen. 6:1-4; Jude 1:6-7; 2 Pet. 2:4).

Genesis 6:5 implies man was the “mastermind” of this conspiracy, God blames them for the fall of His sons. Genesis 6:4 begins with the Nephilim, because they were instrumental in the fall of their contemporaries the “sons of Elohim”.

The Watchers left their rightful abode and took as many human wives as they desired (Gen. 6:2; Jude 1:6-7; 2 Pet. 2:4-5). Their hybrid children were believed to be immortal, perhaps the celebrated “Titans” “men of renown” of old in pagan mythology (Gen. 6:4). Likely they built the amazing pre-flood megalithic structures found above and below the sea:

But Satan deceived man because God alone has immortality (1 Tim. 6:15-16) as he very well knew. It is revealed in the book of Revelation Satan had cast his angels down to earth in his “war against the woman’s seed” (Rev. 12:4; Gen. 3:15). By corrupting the image of God in man with the “image of angels” Satan would prevent the “seed of the woman” (Christ the Messiah) from being born in truly human flesh. The ransom sacrifice of Christ would be impossible in flesh corrupted with strange DNA (Compare Ex. 12:5; Lev. 23:12; 1 Pet. 1:19).

1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.
2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.
3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.
4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. (Rev. 12:1-4 NKJ)

[The Mystery Solved: How Angels are cast out of Heaven twice (Rev. 12:4 and Rev. 12:7-9)]

The Nephilim will return in the end time, again promising man immortality, peace and safety (1 Thess. 5:3) from the global crisis’ overwhelming the earth (Rev. 6:1-8). A tsunami of satanic energy will fuel the strong delusion of Ancient Alien Theory (Rev. 16:13-14, 16), that “this time” rebellion against YHWH God will succeed.

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The Nephilim: Satan's Fallen Angels 1 Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3 Then the LORD said,

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[Alfred Persson]

It is absurd to suggest UFO aliens built these sites. Why would THEY use stone. These were built by the "men of renown" in Genesis 6:4, the hybrid human-angel children of the Fallen Angels (Nephilim) and their contemporaries the "sons of God" (Gen. 6:2)

NAU Genesis 6:1 Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them,
2 that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.
3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
(Gen. 6:1-4 NAU)

 

[Who Me]

A few megalithic sites survive manifesting the presence of their technologically advanced society.

Which as you said a sentence before, buried by Noahs flood.

A global flood laying down a mile deep sedimentary rock is going to destroy all evidence of pre flood architecture, so all structures now being investigated are post flood.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Which as you said a sentence before, buried by Noahs flood.

A global flood laying down a mile deep sedimentary rock is going to destroy all evidence of pre flood architecture, so all structures now being investigated are post flood.

I don't agree. Some clearly weren't buried completely. To imagine such a uniform burial throughout all the earth would be a miracle, not something caused by a flood with eddies and currents and turbulence.

 

[Who Me]

I don't agree. Some clearly weren't buried completely. To imagine such a uniform burial throughout all the earth would be a miracle, not something caused by a flood with eddies and currents and turbulence.

What we're these semi buried structures standing on?
If it is hundreds of feet of sedimentary rock then they are not pre flood structures.

 

[Alfred Persson]

What we're these semi buried structures standing on?
If it is hundreds of feet of sedimentary rock then they are not pre flood structures.

The flood is how they were buried. Mt Saint Helen's eruption taught us many things about rapid burial:

 

[Who Me]

The flood is how they were buried. Mt Saint Helen's eruption taught us many things about rapid burial:

Yes and Mt St Helens demonstrated something of how destructive a torrent of water can be, something that would tear apart buildings.

 

[Alfred Persson]

Yes and Mt St Helens demonstrated something of how destructive a torrent of water can be, something that would tear apart buildings.

If you ever felt a torrent of water hit you, then it becomes personal.

As an "ordinary seaman" on a US Tanker, part of my job was to make coffee for the Mate on watch, take it to him on the bridge. A catwalk separated the aft house from the bridge. It was a rainy windy night off Cape Hattaras, a hurricane was raging, but I thought I could make it. About half way to the Bridge "green water" came up over much of the catwalk. A torrent of water snatched the coffee pot, and almost me, and took it over the side. I held on for dear life, it seemed like an eternity---water trying to take me with it.

I now respect the power of the sea much more.

While it was "green water", only a foot or so struck me, most was foam. A little more, and I wouldn't be typing this. The Cat Walk and I would be somewhere off North Carolina.

The Keystone Tanker looked like this:

The oil tanker "Esso Bolivar" leaves her construction yard Germania in Kiel for sea trialsl on the Baltic Sea. The ship operated between New York and Central America and was able to carry not only crude oil but also passengers Stock Photo - Alamy

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[Who Me]

If you ever felt a torrent of water hit you, then it becomes personal.

As an "ordinary seaman" on a US Tanker, part of my job was to make coffee for the Mate on watch, take it to him on the bridge. A catwalk separated the aft house from the bridge. It was a rainy windy night off Cape Hattaras, a hurricane was raging, but I thought I could make it. About half way to the Bridge "green water" came up over much of the catwalk. A torrent of water snatched the coffee pot, and almost me, and took it over the side. I held on for dear life, it seemed like an eternity---water trying to take me with it.

I now respect the power of the sea much more.

While it was "green water", only a foot or so struck me, most was foam. A little more, and I wouldn't be typing this. The Cat Walk and I would be somewhere off North Carolina.

The Keystone Tanker looked like this:

The oil tanker "Esso Bolivar" leaves her construction yard Germania in Kiel for sea trialsl on the Baltic Sea. The ship operated between New York and Central America and was able to carry not only crude oil but also passengers Stock Photo - Alamy

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A dramatic near miss, water is very powerful, almost as powerful as the unbelieve that refuses to recognise the bible as Gods word and that it is relevant for today.

A comment on this site:-https://creation.com/g%C3%B6bekli-tepe-lost-city-of-dwarka-age

 

[Alfred Persson]

A dramatic near miss, water is very powerful, almost as powerful as the unbelieve that refuses to recognise the bible as Gods word and that it is relevant for today.

A comment on this site:-https://creation.com/g%C3%B6bekli-tepe-lost-city-of-dwarka-age

I agree, God’s Word is Truth, profitable for doctrine because its 100% correct:

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, (2 Tim. 3:16 NKJ)

"Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. (Jn. 17:17 NKJ)

I should have clarified, the dates given for these sites are all wrong for many of the reasons CMI gives. But I also disagree with CMI’s assumption (which you alluded to), that nothing pre-flood survived burial. It is unlikely the massive burial that did occur in globally, had the same intensity everywhere.

Therefore, I have no problem supposing ALL these incredible sites are antediluvian, unlike CMI.

Also, I don’t have the problem others have when I do this. Why did technology vanish? The flood of course, buried it and killed those who knew it:

“The secular date places it more than 7,000 years before Stonehenge … Yet, strangely, there is little evidence for anything else built on such a massive scale in the intervening years. Archaeologically, it is as if those intervening thousands of years never existed.”

Carter and Sanders draw a similar conclusion:

“To put things in perspective—archaeologists are claiming that, 12,000 years ago, people were capable of carving these huge monuments. This is supposed to be long before any sort of written language, thousands of years before the Egyptian pyramids, and prior to the settlement of Sumer. Out of nowhere, we have this ancient monument, and then humans supposedly put down their chisels and don’t build anything for thousands of years more—but when they do, we get Sumer and the Egyptian pyramids. This stretches credulity.”2

How old are Göbekli Tepe and the Lost City of Dwarka?

Göbekli Tepe and Lost City of Dwarka dates do not fit Genesis timeline for Creation or Flood.

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I support CMI and defer to them on almost everything as “the experts to heed”. But not on these sites, I believe my OP explained precisely what is correct according to scripture and logical inference from it.

PS: It I said some sites give a “snap shot” (drawing carving etc) of the positions of stars and sun when the sites were built. But massive flood waters logically would skew the rotation of the planet, rending all their calculations wrong.