Generational Curses

[jasonc]

The rich sues the poor.

ok, I was working at a church when I was injured while driving, I sued the wealthier business owner for permanent damages to my body.i made min wage at that time. the injured took the day off thread is related to that car wreck 16 years ago.

 

[stovebolts]

Unbelievable... I can't believe how some of you are so enamored in your theology that your completely detached from reality in a wave of denial. My goodness, just because one is "Born again" and "A new creature in Christ" doesn't make every word that comes out of our mouth or every action we perform perfect. It just means that we are open to God's transformational work and we know that God's not going to abandon us along the way when we screw up.

A generational curse is more on the lines of what Lewis has been saying. It's where a bad trait is passed on from one generation to another. Being a "New Creature in Christ" means we're going to start thinking like Jesus and we're going to start acting like Jesus. We can pass on these Christ like traits to our children, but we also pass on the not so Christ like traits as well.

God is in the business of transformation by way of repentance. Why do we all need repentance? Because none of us are perfect. And those trait imperfections? You probably got those from your parents and guess what? Until you are aware of them you will pass them to your children. If you become aware of them after your children are grown, not only will you have to repent of them, but you'll also have to get your kids to repent of them as well.

But here's the real problem. Our trait imperfections are what we deem "normal" and often, we don't see the need to repent because we don't see the wrong we're doing, or we don't see the good we could be doing.

That's generational sin 88.

 

[Willie T]

Unbelievable... I can't believe how some of you are so enamored in your theology that your completely detached from reality in a wave of denial. My goodness, just because one is "Born again" and "A new creature in Christ" doesn't make every word that comes out of our mouth or every action we perform perfect. It just means that we are open to God's transformational work and we know that God's not going to abandon us along the way when we screw up.

A generational curse is more on the lines of what Lewis has been saying. It's where a bad trait is passed on from one generation to another. Being a "New Creature in Christ" means we're going to start thinking like Jesus and we're going to start acting like Jesus. We can pass on these Christ like traits to our children, but we also pass on the not so Christ like traits as well.

God is in the business of transformation by way of repentance. Why do we all need repentance? Because none of us are perfect. And those trait imperfections? You probably got those from your parents and guess what? Until you are aware of them you will pass them to your children. If you become aware of them after your children are grown, not only will you have to repent of them, but you'll also have to get your kids to repent of them as well.

But here's the real problem. Our trait imperfections are what we deem "normal" and often, we don't see the need to repent because we don't see the wrong we're doing, or we don't see the good we could be doing.

That's generational sin 88.

Lesse........ A "generational curse" is simply a character trait? Right!

 

[stovebolts]

Lesse........ A "generational curse" is simply a character trait? Right!

Ohh, I think it's a little deeper than a character trait depending on how you define or look at a character trait.
Our actions are a manifestation of our intellectual, spiritual and emotional condition. How does that work for you?

 

[Willie T]

Ohh, I think it's a little deeper than a character trait depending on how you define or look at a character trait.
Our actions are a manifestation of our intellectual, spiritual and emotional condition. How does that work for you?

Considering the fact that I spent 24 years teaching criminals how to correct their faulty thinking concerning societally disapproved behaviors... (negative traits usually learned from their parents or environment).... and it worked... I would have to take the view that a curse from God (and this IS where the term comes from) would be something entirely different.

And if WE had the ability to end or reverse these "curses", snakes would all be walking around on legs again, and we would not have to sweat and toil to get the ground to produce crops. (Curses that God pronounced)

No, I have to agree with Kathi. In Christ, there is no more condemnation of those old things.

 

[stovebolts]

Considering the fact that I spent 24 years teaching criminals how to correct their faulty thinking concerning societally disapproved behaviors... (negative traits usually learned from their parents or environment).... and it worked... I would have to take the view that a curse from God (and this IS where the term comes from) would be something entirely different.

And if WE had the ability to end or reverse these "curses", snakes would all be walking around on legs again, and we would not have to sweat and toil to get the ground to produce crops. (Curses that God pronounced)

No, I have to agree with Kathi. In Christ, there is no more condemnation of those old things.

And you have the right to be wrong. I won't hold it against you regardless how you justify it.

By the way... What's prior to "Therefore, there is no condemnation.....". Was Paul or any other of the Apostles perfect? I didn't think so.

Exodus 20:5-6 is set in the tone of a wedding vow.

Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments....

Can you see the relationship? We, the Church are the bride. Our relationship is also in the tone of a wedding vow. I hope you can think on these things.

Somewhere in Ezekiel 18 it is written that a son is not punished for the sins of his Father and vice versa. This doesn't mean that the sin has no effect on the son and as such, the son is burdened.

We may not be condemned, but we all sin. Question is, how do you respond to the sin in your life?

BTW, you know the problem with guilt? You only feel it after you screwed up... Nice to know we aren't condemned for it... Nice to know we serve a God who helps us stay on the narrow path that leads to life.

 

[iLOVE]

Reversing the Generational Curse
Scripture Reading: Mark 5:32-43

Did you know that many problems people face are linked to choices their parents, grandparents and even "great-grandpa" made? This may be a new way of thinking for you, and it is certainly not about placing blame. Yet we need to know God's truth about generational curses and how to live free of their bondages.
A generational curse is passed down from one generation to another due to rebellion against God. If your family line is marked by divorce, incest, poverty, anger or other ungodly patterns, you're most likely under a generational curse. The Bible says that these curses are tied to choices.

Deuteronomy 30:19 says we can either choose life and blessing or death and cursing.

Freedom comes when we confess the ungodly patterns, ask God for forgiveness and then walk in obedience by consistently choosing His ways.

- Dr. Tony Evans

 

[iLOVE]

Generational curses are real but not something we have to live under.

 

[JLB]

Considering the fact that I spent 24 years teaching criminals how to correct their faulty thinking concerning societally disapproved behaviors... (negative traits usually learned from their parents or environment).... and it worked... I would have to take the view that a curse from God (and this IS where the term comes from) would be something entirely different.

And if WE had the ability to end or reverse these "curses", snakes would all be walking around on legs again, and we would not have to sweat and toil to get the ground to produce crops. (Curses that God pronounced)

No, I have to agree with Kathi. In Christ, there is no more condemnation of those old things.

I don't deny for one minute the awesome work you have done with men who have come out of the correctional system with faulty thinking.

Thank you for your service.

However, let's please consider what Paul said to the Romans in his letter:

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1

and again -

6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6


What we are saying is, an iniquity is an inherited weakness towards a certain sin.

Spiritually speaking. it produces certain desires within, for that sin.

We can correct our thinking but until this inherited weakness from the family line, of the fathers is confessed and by faith in the work of Jesus in which He was bruised for our iniquities is applied by faith then it is possible that we can still carry it within.

Like it is possible for a Christian to be born again and saved by the blood that was shed on the cross, and still have a natural sickness that is in need of being healed, even though it was paid for by the strips on His back.

It is because this was never taught.

Maybe a good Salvation message was taught, but it is possible that a good healing message was not, and therefore never believed.

Here is the principle of receiving the knowledge of Salvation by faith -

13 For "whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." 14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!"
Romans 10:13-15

How can someone believe in the other benefits, that were paid for by Jesus, on His way to the cross, that can be applied to our lives where we have need, by faith in that very work.

However if it is not announced by a preacher the same same we have the Gospel for the forgiveness of sins announced by a preacher, then how can we believe.

Many of us have not been exposed to such teaching about healing and the heavy price Jesus paid for it, BEFORE THE CROSS, at the whipping post.

BY HIS STRIPS WE ARE HEALED.

When were we saved?

Same thing applies to the iniquities in our family line, that were paid for by Him being beaten and bruised, on His way to the Cross.

What is the principle of faith?

8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:8-9

Two things that bring the work of the cross, from 2000 years ago, into your life today, confess with your mouth and believe in your heart...

Same principle of faith applies to healing and iniquities and prayers for loved ones...




JLB

 

[Willie T]

I don't deny for one minute the awesome work you have done with men who have come out of the correctional system with faulty thinking.

Thank you for your service.

However, let's please consider what Paul said to the Romans in his letter:

1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1

and again -

6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Romans 8:6


What we are saying is, an iniquity is an inherited weakness towards a certain sin.

Spiritually speaking. it produces certain desires within, for that sin.

We can correct our thinking but until this inherited weakness from the family line, of the fathers is confessed and by faith in the work of Jesus in which He was bruised for our iniquities is applied by faith then it is possible that we can still carry it within.

Like it is possible for a Christian to be born again and saved by the blood that was shed on the cross, and still have a natural sickness that is in need of being healed, even though it was paid for by the strips on His back.

It is because this was never taught.

Maybe a good Salvation message was taught, but it is possible that a good healing message was not, and therefore never believed.

Here is the principle of receiving the knowledge of Salvation by faith -

13 For "whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved." 14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the gospel of peace, Who bring glad tidings of good things!"
Romans 10:13-15

How can someone believe in the other benefits, that were paid for by Jesus, on His way to the cross, that can be applied to our lives where we have need, by faith in that very work.

However if it is not announced by a preacher the same same we have the Gospel for the forgiveness of sins announced by a preacher, then how can we believe.

Many of us have not been exposed to such teaching about healing and the heavy price Jesus paid for it, BEFORE THE CROSS, at the whipping post.

BY HIS STRIPS WE ARE HEALED.

When were we saved?

Same thing applies to the iniquities in our family line, that were paid for by Him being beaten and bruised, on His way to the Cross.

What is the principle of faith?

8 But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:8-9

Two things that bring the work of the cross, from 2000 years ago, into your life today, confess with your mouth and believe in your heart...

Same principle of faith applies to healing and iniquities and prayers for loved ones...




JLB

Sorry. I can only try to answer when you are talking about the scriptures. This post went so far off that track, that I'm not really too sure what you were trying to say.

 

[Cas3y]

Your avatar is Badtz Maru!
haha! When did he become king!

 

[jasonc]

Unbelievable... I can't believe how some of you are so enamored in your theology that your completely detached from reality in a wave of denial. My goodness, just because one is "Born again" and "A new creature in Christ" doesn't make every word that comes out of our mouth or every action we perform perfect. It just means that we are open to God's transformational work and we know that God's not going to abandon us along the way when we screw up.

A generational curse is more on the lines of what Lewis has been saying. It's where a bad trait is passed on from one generation to another. Being a "New Creature in Christ" means we're going to start thinking like Jesus and we're going to start acting like Jesus. We can pass on these Christ like traits to our children, but we also pass on the not so Christ like traits as well.

God is in the business of transformation by way of repentance. Why do we all need repentance? Because none of us are perfect. And those trait imperfections? You probably got those from your parents and guess what? Until you are aware of them you will pass them to your children. If you become aware of them after your children are grown, not only will you have to repent of them, but you'll also have to get your kids to repent of them as well.

But here's the real problem. Our trait imperfections are what we deem "normal" and often, we don't see the need to repent because we don't see the wrong we're doing, or we don't see the good we could be doing.

That's generational sin 88.

I can see that. I have lived that. there is a taught pattern of thought that I struggle with. some of my habits were learned in the army. ie its a stronghold and a curse to think less of what god says about .something. ie in the world we are taught to see women as objects to be used. I have to watch those comments. its our nature to lust and while its ok to notice,its not ok to denigrate and lust.both are learned behaviours.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I see a generational curse as being physical as well.
Sort of like our parents went through a change in DNA and that got passed down to us.
Why does the doctor ask, "Did your parents have cancer? Diabetes? etc...
These traits can be passed down to us.
But they are a generational curse.
And Jesus broke the curse, right?
So now we put our trust in Jesus and these curses no longer get passed down to us, right?
Or am I wrong?

 

[Kathi]

I see a generational curse as being physical as well.
Sort of like our parents went through a change in DNA and that got passed down to us.
Why does the doctor ask, "Did your parents have cancer? Diabetes? etc...
These traits can be passed down to us.
But they are a generational curse.
And Jesus broke the curse, right?
So now we put our trust in Jesus and these curses no longer get passed down to us, right?
Or am I wrong?

That is the way I see it.

 

[Edward]

Generational curses are very real and I have done some research into the subject and came away convinced of their reality. They're spoken of in scripture.

The thing to do is to pray and ask forgiveness for whomever it was in your family which was into the occult or whatever and to claim the blood of Jesus upon it and renounce it's authority upon your life. This will break it.

It's not just a character trait passed on, it's real. But Stove is right about Character traits also. I believe that at the moment that a child is conceived...the state of the heart of the two parents combined will be be passed on at that moment. A good reason not to be drunk or on drugs when engaged in sexual activity with the spouse, because along with the intoxication is the altered mind state and weird thoughts.