[_ Old Earth _] God proves the wisdom of the world foolish

[Heidi]

Jesus says in Matthew 11:26-26, "I praise you good Father, Lord of heaven and earth because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned and revealed them to little children. For this was your good pleasure."

And nowhere is that more obvious than in the theory of evolution because only children can know why apes can't breed human descendants." ;-) But it's completely lost on those who consider themselves educated because in their zeal to deny God and play God themselves, they overlook the simplest of reasons why apes can't breed human descendants. ;-)

Those who consider themselves wise and educated, are capable of writing masterpieces like "Lord of the rings." The theory of evolution equals Tolken's novel, both in longevity and imaginative thinking. But the difference betwee the 2 is that Tolken can acknowledge that his story is fiction whereas evolutionists haven't reached that point yet. :

And that's how God makes the "wise and elarned" look foolish because arrogance clouds judgment. Arrogant people can't admit they're wrong no matter how much evidence is staring them in the face. So God reduces evolutionary scientists to fools because they tell one lie after another in a desperate to deny God's account of creation.

But the greatest tragedy in all of this is when the majority of scientists come out and declare evolution a hoax (which won't be long since many of them are coming to their senses right now), then what will Christian" evolutionists believe? :o They'll have nowhere to turn because they've already abandoned God's word for the teachings of men. They have turned away from the truth and instead, turned aside to myths as Paul tells us they will in the last days (2 Timothy 4:3).

So even if you don't understand the birds and the bees people who call themselves Christians should at least believe Jesus when he says; "What is highly valued among men is detestable in God's sight" And "For the wisdom of the world is foolishness in God's sight." If you don't believe God there, you will turn aside to the myths of men and God will prove you foolish and humble you indeed. :roll:

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

You most certainly are entitled to your opinion.

As for evolution your view is wishful thinking.

Who gave men the intelligence to develop the sciences? It would be a grievous sin not to use the intelligence that the Divine gave us.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Heidi]

Heidi :D

You most certainly are entitled to your opinion.

As for evolution your view is wishful thinking.

Who gave men the intelligence to develop the sciences? It would be a grievous sin not to use the intelligence that the Divine gave us.

Shalom
Ted :D

So you don't know that apes breed apes and humans breed humans since you claim it's wishful thinking. : : That's because you live in your imagination where fictitious beasts breed human beings. : : But you can live in your imagination all you want. I prefer to live in reality where humans breed humans and apes breed apes. ;-)

 

[Ted]

Dear Heidi :D

You have made absolutely no attempt to understand what I have said or what Barbarian has said.

The fact of the matter is if my faith does not reflect the reality I see around me than my faith is problematic. There needs to be no discrepancy between faith and reality.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Heidi]

Dear Heidi :D

You have made absolutely no attempt to understand what I have said or what Barbarian has said.

The fact of the matter is if my faith does not reflect the reality I see around me than my faith is problematic. There needs to be no discrepancy between faith and reality.

Shalom
Ted :D

There sure is discrepancy between your faith in evolution and the reality around you considering that no one has ever witnessed an ape breeding a human being or anything resembling a transitional species! : So just live in reality adn you'll know what little children know. But stick with the "wise and learned" and God will make you look like a fool like he does with evolutionists and anyone who contradicts His word. ;-)

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

You are still giving me the same old same old. Of course apes don't breed humans but apes and humans have a common ancestry. Evolution does not happen over night nor over 9 months.

I will stick with the truth as the Divine, or if you will, the Holy Spirit, has led me to see it.

You have still offered no proof for your position.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Heidi]

Heidi :D

You are still giving me the same old same old. Of course apes don't breed humans but apes and humans have a common ancestry. Evolution does not happen over night nor over 9 months.

I will stick with the truth as the Divine, or if you will, the Holy Spirit, has led me to see it.

You have still offered no proof for your position.

Shalom
Ted :D

You just contradicted yourself. You claimed that apes don't breed humans but claim apes are the ancestors of humans at the same time. :o Do you know what an ancestor is? :o Ancestors are living beings who produce descendants through mating and breeding. They therefore have to capable of breeding a descendant for the descendant to call them their ancestors! So since apes aren't capable of breeding human descendants, then apes are no more the ancestors of humans than giraffes are! : : Evolutionists are a hoot. :

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

Perhaps you should read again what I posted. There is no contradiction, except perhaps in your imagination. I said that apes and humans come from a common ancestor. One branch of the family tree became human and the other became the ape.

I really don't believe for one moment that you have a reading problem.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Heidi]

Heidi :D

Perhaps you should read again what I posted. There is no contradiction, except perhaps in your imagination. I said that apes and humans come from a common ancestor. One branch of the family tree became human and the other became the ape.

I really don't believe for one moment that you have a reading problem.

Shalom
Ted :D

: I know what you said. You're claiming that animals can breed human beings because they're our ancestors. : : So it's you who didn't understand my point and thus, you have the reading comprehension problem. All you are proving is that yes indeed, the wisdom of the world is foolishness in God's sight. 8-) So again, go to a zoo or a farm to see why humans can't be the descendants of animals. You should also try to think through why no ancient peoples ever, anywhere in the world talked about our animal ancestors. : : :

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

Perhaps you would kindly show me where I said animals would breed humans.

Evolution is a long slow process. It is not ancestor to ape today and human 24 hours later. Human consciousness took thousands if not millions of years to develop. Somewhere over time the ancestor to the ape slowly, so very slowly, so very very slowly developed into a human on one branch of the family tree and into an ape on the other. No contradiction whatsoever.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[blunthitta4life]

Wow Heidi you are still using the same argument... that is pretty impressive. :crazyeyes:

Wow Heidi you are still ignoring people's replies and twisting their words. :-D

Jesus must be proud of you!! :D

 

[Heidi]

Heidi :D

Perhaps you would kindly show me where I said animals would breed humans.

Evolution is a long slow process. It is not ancestor to ape today and human 24 hours later. Human consciousness took thousands if not millions of years to develop. Somewhere over time the ancestor to the ape slowly, so very slowly, so very very slowly developed into a human on one branch of the family tree and into an ape on the other. No contradiction whatsoever.

Shalom
Ted :D

You really need to think it through, Ted, instead of having blind faith in scientists. If you're claiming that the origin of humans was not from other humans, then they had to come from animals or aliens. Now again, do you know how descendants are produced? They're produced by the mating and breeding between their ancestors. Are you with me so far? If so, then if you claim that humans are the descendants of animals, then you are also claiming that happened by the mating and breeding between our animal ancestors, whether over this happened over a gazillion years or 9 months.

But I thint the proble you're having is that you have no idea who these common ancestors were! You don't even know if they existed or you would be able to identify them. They'e purely imaginary. So you have no idea how many there were, what kind of animal they were when they lived, how they got there, or whether or not they were sterile! So because you don't know who they are, then you have no idea how they can turn into a human being. :o

The animal that turned into a human could have been a cow for all you know.

I'll use the same explanation that evolutionists do when trying to tell people how humans came from apes. The cow just produced descendants who kept getting thinner and thinner because their genes were...just....changing over the centuries until one day, one of their descendants lost its front legs and stood up on its hind legs. :

That made it possible for them to reach into trees and grab bananas instead of chewing on the cud that they were sick of. They had begun to think by now and started to realize how tasteless cud was. Then one day, one of their transitional offspring began to talk. The first cow who started doing that amazed his grandparents! They couldn't communicate with him of course, so they were speechless. :o

And that pretty well sums up the theory of evolution. Fictitious beasts turning into all of the animals on the ground, the birds in the air, the fish in the sea, and most of all human beings. :o So not only is the wisdom of the world foolishness in God's sight, evolutionists belong in a padded cell. :o

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

Let me clarify something. I was raised in a fundamentalist/literalist church and found it intolerable and totally inappropriate. I have thought all of this through and have learned to think and study for myself. Blind faith in science! Absolutely not. I am well aware of the limitations of the disciplines that we have in the world including a literal Bible. I think for myself not just what others tell me to think.

I do think that blunt in the post above has made some very valid observations.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Heidi]

Heidi :D

Let me clarify something. I was raised in a fundamentalist/literalist church and found it intolerable and totally inappropriate. I have thought all of this through and have learned to think and study for myself. Blind faith in science! Absolutely not. I am well aware of the limitations of the disciplines that we have in the world including a literal Bible. I think for myself not just what others tell me to think.

I do think that blunt in the post above has made some very valid observations.

Shalom
Ted :D

So if you think for yourself, then how can you think that apes can breed human descendants when that doesn't happen in reality? Who told you that they could? :o

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

LOL

Have a nice day.

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Heidi]

Heidi :D

LOL

Have a nice day.

Shalom
Ted :D

At least it was a polite pleading of the 5th amendment. I'll give you that.

 

[Ted]

Heidi :D

LOL

(.)

Shalom
Ted :D

 

[Guest]

At least it was a polite pleading of the 5th amendment. I'll give you that.

Dear Heidi,
Please stop for a brief moment of time and explain two things:
1. What is the official Theory of Evolution.
2. Where do you get your definition for the Theory of Evolution.
I don't want to know your "interpretation" of the Theory of Evolution, I want to know the SOURCE/DEFINITION of it.

Again, pay attention to the wording of this post. It's a simple request and I hope you can provide a simple answer, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Jayls5]

At least it was a polite pleading of the 5th amendment. I'll give you that.

Dear Heidi,
Please stop for a brief moment of time and explain two things:
1. What is the official Theory of Evolution.
2. Where do you get your definition for the Theory of Evolution.
I don't want to know your "interpretation" of the Theory of Evolution, I want to know the SOURCE/DEFINITION of it.

Again, pay attention to the wording of this post. It's a simple request and I hope you can provide a simple answer, nothing more nothing less.

She wont. Straw men are way easier to disprove.

Jesus loved everyone. Logic would tell us that Jesus loved Hitler. Jesus is wrong because he loves HItler.

Brilliantly characterized, just like the theory of evolution as described by Heidi.

I would actually bother to respond to her last "explanation" had she not already demonstrated that she has no interest in an actual evolutionist perspective.

 

[Dunzo]

Jesus loved everyone. Logic would tell us that Jesus loved Hitler. Jesus is wrong because he loves HItler.

Aaaahahahaha. Genius.