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God so loved the world even that crusty old Theologian John Calvin can be saved if he believes

Alfred Persson

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"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. (Jn. 3:16 NKJ)

The opportunity to be saved by Jesus is universally offered to “whosoever believes”, but against this Calvin argued “world” refers to all groups of people and the elect among them are the only ones who will believe and be saved.

Conclusion: Calvinists are wrong because:

1. Limiting kosmos to the elect contradicts the plain and repeated use of kosmos in John 3:16-19, which clearly indicates an inclusive, universal scope.
2. The phrase “whoever believes” in John 3:16 supports an open invitation to all humanity, not just the elect.
3. 1 John 2:2 explicitly states that Christ is the propitiation for the sins of the entire world (holos kosmos), which cannot be limited to the elect without ignoring the clear textual emphasis on universality.
4. The context of condemnation and salvation described in John 3:18-19 applies universally, implying that the kosmos receiving the light includes all people, even those who reject it.
5. Christ’s universal proclamation to the living and the dead (1 Peter 3:18-22, Ephesians 4:9-10) further supports that His mission and the reach of His light are not restricted to an exclusive group but extend to all humanity.

Final Conclusion: The Calvinist interpretation that limits kosmos in these passages to only the elect fails to align with the clear, repeated, and contextually consistent use of the term in Scripture. The natural reading of kosmos in John 3:16-19 and 1 John 2:2 supports a universal understanding that includes all of humanity, affirming that Christ’s atoning work and the offer of salvation are genuinely extended to all.



Notes:

The Meaning of Kosmos in John 3:16-19 and 1 John 2:2

Premise 1
: In John 3:16, kosmos (world) is used to convey that "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

Premise 2: In John 3:17, the purpose of sending Jesus is stated: "God did not send His Son into the world (kosmos) to condemn the world (kosmos), but that the world (kosmos) through Him might be saved." The repetition of kosmos indicates a consistent meaning throughout the passage.

Premise 3: John 3:18 states, "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." This implies that the opportunity for belief and condemnation applies universally within the kosmos.

Premise 4: John 3:19 reinforces the universal application by stating, "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world (kosmos), and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." The phrase "light has come into the world" confirms that Christ's light reaches the entirety of the kosmos.

Premise 5: The repeated use of kosmos in John 3:16-19 suggests that the author is emphasizing a comprehensive meaning, analogous to metaphors like "the four corners of the earth" (Isaiah 11:12) or "east, west, north, and south" (Luke 13:29), which are used to indicate the entire world.

Premise 6: In 1 John 2:2, it is stated, "And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole (holos) world (kosmos)." The addition of holos underscores that Christ's atoning work applies to all of humanity and not only a specific group (e.g., the elect).

Premise 7: The idea that Christ’s light shines universally is further supported by 1 Peter 3:18-22 and 4:5-6, where it is implied that the gospel is proclaimed to all, including the dead. Ephesians 4:9-10 also supports this by stating that Christ descended to the "lower parts of the earth" to ensure no realm of human existence was left out.

Premise 8: If kosmos were meant to refer only to the elect, the repeated emphasis on universal terminology in John 3:16-19 and 1 John 2:2 would be misleading. The use of “whoever believes” in John 3:16 reinforces the open nature of the invitation.

Conclusion: The consistent use of kosmos throughout these passages, along with the additional support from metaphors and theological affirmations of universality, indicates that kosmos refers to the whole of humanity, not just the elect. Therefore, the distinction between “ours [the elect]” and “the whole kosmos of humanity” is unsustainable in this context. Christ is the propitiation for the entire world, providing the opportunity for salvation to all who choose to believe.

 
1. Limiting kosmos to the elect contradicts the plain and repeated use of kosmos in John 3:16-19, which clearly indicates an inclusive, universal scope.
I don't care what Calvin says. God sent His Son so that everyone that believes will be saved.
2. The phrase “whoever believes” in John 3:16 supports an open invitation to all humanity, not just the elect.
No it doesn't. It's only an invitation to all those who believe.

Premise 3: John 3:18 states, "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." This implies that the opportunity for belief and condemnation applies universally within the kosmos.
Again, it only applies to him who believes.

Premise 4: John 3:19 reinforces the universal application by stating, "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world (kosmos), and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil." The phrase "light has come into the world" confirms that Christ's light reaches the entirety of the kosmos.
How far the light reaches isn't the problem. It is all who receive the light. You skipped the next verse:
John 3:20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light.
They are not part of the all who believe.

Premise 7: The idea that Christ’s light shines universally is further supported by 1 Peter 3:18-22 and 4:5-6, where it is implied that the gospel is proclaimed to all
You really believe that Cannibals living in the Amazon rain forest 1,000 years ago had the gospel proclaimed to them?
Philip James Elliot was an American Christian missionary and one of five people killed during Operation Auca, an attempt to evangelize the Huaorani people of Ecuador.
Why did he have to go to Ecuador to evangelize people who already had the gospel?

The use of “whoever believes” in John 3:16 reinforces the open nature of the invitation.
Yes, it is open to every single person who will believe. It is not open to those who will not come to the light.
Christ is the propitiation for the entire world, providing the opportunity for salvation to all who choose to believe.
If Christ is the propitiation for every single human who has ever lived or will live, then their sins are propitiated. Every sin, even the sin of unbelief is propitiated.
Unless you want to make unbelief a special unforgivable sin. But if it is unforgivable, then the first instance of unbelief is unforgivable and it cannot be repented of later or else it is not unforgivable.
 
I don't care what Calvin says. God sent His Son so that everyone that believes will be saved.

No it doesn't. It's only an invitation to all those who believe.


Again, it only applies to him who believes.


How far the light reaches isn't the problem. It is all who receive the light. You skipped the next verse:
John 3:20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light.
They are not part of the all who believe.


You really believe that Cannibals living in the Amazon rain forest 1,000 years ago had the gospel proclaimed to them?
Philip James Elliot was an American Christian missionary and one of five people killed during Operation Auca, an attempt to evangelize the Huaorani people of Ecuador.
Why did he have to go to Ecuador to evangelize people who already had the gospel?


Yes, it is open to every single person who will believe. It is not open to those who will not come to the light.

If Christ is the propitiation for every single human who has ever lived or will live, then their sins are propitiated. Every sin, even the sin of unbelief is propitiated.
Unless you want to make unbelief a special unforgivable sin. But if it is unforgivable, then the first instance of unbelief is unforgivable and it cannot be repented of later or else it is not unforgivable.
So you reject reprobation?
 
Reprobation.
Romans 9:21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

From the lump of fallen humans, God elects some to be vessels of honor, and the rest are passed over and left to face justice.

From Robertson's Word Pictures:
Paul thus claims clearly God’s sovereign right (exousian, power, right, authority, from exesti) to use men (already sinners) for his own purpose.
 
Reprobation.
Romans 9:21 Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

From the lump of fallen humans, God elects some to be vessels of honor, and the rest are passed over and left to face justice.

From Robertson's Word Pictures:
Paul thus claims clearly God’s sovereign right (exousian, power, right, authority, from exesti) to use men (already sinners) for his own purpose.
God is Sovereign, everything is His. He can do anything He wants and its still right. That's not the question.

Does the bible teach God predestined some to be reprobate? I don't think so and I listed my reasons.
 
Does the bible teach God predestined some to be reprobate? I don't think so and I listed my reasons.
You listed passages and then misunderstood what they were saying.
Such as: Whosoever believes = every human being in the world.
Does the bible teach God predestined some to be reprobate?
The Bible teaches that some were chosen before the foundation of the world and predestined to be adopted as Sons.
Those not chosen were passed over, therefore they would not be adopted as Sons. That is reprobation.

1 Peter 2:7-8
Modern English Version
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious. But to those who are disobedient,
“The stone that the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”
8 and,
“A stone of stumbling,
and a rock of offense.”
They stumble because they are disobedient to the word, to which also they were appointed.

That word "appointed" is the same word Paul uses:
1Timothy 2:7 for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am speaking the truth in Christ and not lying—a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.

When was Paul appointed?
Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb. . .
Rom 1:1 Paul, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated to the gospel of God.

It seems that Paul was separated from his mother's womb and appointed to be an Apostle, and the guys in 1 Peter 2:8 were appointed to be disobedient to the word.
Election and reprobation.

I know you can't accept this, so you must figure some way to make these passages say something else.
 
I was just thinking, one passage that does refer to everybody without exception (except those who are dead.)

Act 17:30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,

God doesn't invite people to repent, He doesn't give them an opportunity to repent, He commands them to repent.

And again, a command does not imply the ability to obey. It does imply the obligation to obey.
 
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