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Bible Study God Spoke into Existence....

YosefHayim

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So in Genesis, God spoke things into existence.

However, man he created with his hands?

Genesis says
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.”

And then in Genesis 2 we read
"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

So he created our physical bodies out of dust, and breathed life into us.

So if he made us with his hands, what about the material that he used to make us?

Did he speak that into in existence?

This is my question, because Jesus Christ is called the living Word of God. So if Jesus Christ is the Word, what is the difference between the words that God used to create creation?

God said "let there be light," "let there be water", "let there be land," "let there be plants" etc.,

So are we "words" of God, or creation of his hands?

And if God spoke light into creation, would light be a "word" of God in it's physical existance?

Are we words as Jesus would be a word, for John 1:3 says all things that were made were made through Jesus Christ.

Am I thinking too hard on this?
 
I am going to move this thread over to the Bible Study forum. The Bible Study forum is a better fit for this topic.
 
I vote yes.
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But still in essence my question would be: are we hand-creations of God, word-spoken creations of God, or both?

People should like thinking deep on the deepness of God.

I love to understand the vastness of his Glory. The more I learn and understand, the wider and more sovereign I realize he is. Understanding him is humbling.
 
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But still in essence my question would be: are we hand-creations of God, word-spoken creations of God, or both?

Why couldn't God have spoken us into existence just like the rest of creation? The bible doesn't say that God got down and molded us into being with His hands. Or does it?
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Why couldn't God have spoken us into existence just like the rest of creation? The bible doesn't say that God got down and molded us into being with His hands. Or does it?
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Psalm 8:6 says Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:

Genesis 2 tells us he formed Adam from the dust

While Genesis 1 also shows him speaking things into existence e.g. "let there be light".

And also life came from his breath.
 
Just somethings that came to mind are...maybe God didn't speak light into existence. Maybe light has always existed just like God has always existed and He used the term "let there be" to show us that He is including light in our solar system.
 
god has hands? how does a spirit have hands? god is omnipresent. so I ask how can he have a body that is confining?
 
Revelation 1
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter;
20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

Daniel 10
Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
6 His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
7 And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
8 Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
9 Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
10 And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands.
11 And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
12 Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
15 And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
16 And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
17 For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
18 Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
19 And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
20 Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.

Ezekiel 1
And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.
27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.
28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.

Genesis 18

1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
3 And said, My LORD, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.


Isaiah 55:9

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.


so I ask how can he have a body that is confining?
If he made us in our likeness, why would his appearance as a man confine he who is God? He made us in his likeness. So then he must have the appearance of some sort of manlike being. No?
 
so god if he is omnipresent. how can he have feet in heaven and be on the earth at the same time?

an ape has eyes, ears, feet and hands. why do we then say he isn't made in the image of god? besides that has little to do with the body but with the nature we have of compassion and love. apes can have that too but not the choice to do them or not.
 
that and well the son of god, is also shown as a lamb having seven eyes, seven heads and being slain. imagery is just that its a vision.
 
so god if he is omnipresent. how can he have feet in heaven and be on the earth at the same time?

an ape has eyes, ears, feet and hands. why do we then say he isn't made in the image of god? besides that has little to do with the body but with the nature we have of compassion and love. apes can have that too but not the choice to do them or not.

He is omnipresent.

Why does having likewise attributes have to mean flesh and blood? We were created in his image and likeness. Not exactness, but likeness. We must have some sort of appearance of God if we were made in his image. Some suggest that we were bodies of light, and then genetic corruption took place. http://www.douglashamp.com/bodies-of-light-and-adams-biophotons/
 
YosefHayim

No disrespect, but I'm gonna have to bow out of this conversation.

Have a good one.
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Gary
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Just somethings that came to mind are...maybe God didn't speak light into existence. Maybe light has always existed just like God has always existed and He used the term "let there be" to show us that He is including light in our solar system.
Nope. Only God has always existed.
 
Just somethings that came to mind are...maybe God didn't speak light into existence. Maybe light has always existed just like God has always existed and He used the term "let there be" to show us that He is including light in our solar system.
Careful: your thinking and statement didn't come from above.
 
Careful: your thinking and statement didn't come from above.
Thanks for pointing that out. When we humans create something it has to start as a thought or an idea in our brains before it becomes something we can see or touch. I'm sure that since God has always existed and is all powerful and all knowing that He didn't have to think of "light" before He created it. Then again I am just a human and can only wonder at these kinds of questions.
 
to the oper, if you want to take that vision as literal as that is god. what then is jesus? is a man with a fleshly body with scars in heaven per paul or the lamb seen. if what john and the prophet see the YHWH as that on the throne. then you must also by context see that jesus is literally a seven head, 49 eyed lamb that was slain.im not saying that I understand that. just that its meant to show us something. so that we can grasp the message.
 
to the oper, if you want to take that vision as literal as that is god. what then is jesus? is a man with a fleshly body with scars in heaven per paul or the lamb seen. if what john and the prophet see the YHWH as that on the throne. then you must also by context see that jesus is literally a seven head, 49 eyed lamb that was slain.im not saying that I understand that. just that its meant to show us something. so that we can grasp the message.
Scripture tells us what is metaphor, and what is literal. The prophets saw the glory of God when the heavens opened. The disciples saw Jesus transfigure.
 
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