God the Son?

[Imagican]

I find it UTTERLY amazing that those that accept 'trinity' will use this 'title' REGARDLESS of the FACT that it DOES NOT exist in the Word. And INSIST that it is a 'proper' title for one that has His titles CLEARLY stated throughout the Word.

Doesn't that raise the 'least bit of suspicion' in those that have been 'taught' this by 'other men'?

MEC

 

[thessalonian]

I find it UTTERLY amazing that those that accept 'trinity' will use this 'title' REGARDLESS of the FACT that it DOES NOT exist in the Word. And INSIST that it is a 'proper' title for one that has His titles CLEARLY stated throughout the Word.

Doesn't that raise the 'least bit of suspicion' in those that have been 'taught' this by 'other men'?

MEC

Well let's see, a son of man is a man. A duckling has a daddy duck, a rabbit has a daddy rabbit and a deer has a buck for a father. Yes a buck is a deer. Using sound logic one would say the Son of God is God the Son. God does not require us to check our brains in at the door.

 

[mutzrein]

I find it UTTERLY amazing that those that accept 'trinity' will use this 'title' REGARDLESS of the FACT that it DOES NOT exist in the Word. And INSIST that it is a 'proper' title for one that has His titles CLEARLY stated throughout the Word.

Doesn't that raise the 'least bit of suspicion' in those that have been 'taught' this by 'other men'?

MEC

Well let's see, a son of man is a man. A duckling has a daddy duck, a rabbit has a daddy rabbit and a deer has a buck for a father. Yes a buck is a deer. Using sound logic one would say the Son of God is God the Son. God does not require us to check our brains in at the door.

Not very good logic Thess. Lets give the man a name. Let's call him Bill. Bill has a son and names him Ben. According to your logic, Bill = Ben & vice versa.

 

[Imagican]

I find it UTTERLY amazing that those that accept 'trinity' will use this 'title' REGARDLESS of the FACT that it DOES NOT exist in the Word. And INSIST that it is a 'proper' title for one that has His titles CLEARLY stated throughout the Word.

Doesn't that raise the 'least bit of suspicion' in those that have been 'taught' this by 'other men'?

MEC

Well let's see, a son of man is a man. A duckling has a daddy duck, a rabbit has a daddy rabbit and a deer has a buck for a father. Yes a buck is a deer. Using sound logic one would say the Son of God is God the Son. God does not require us to check our brains in at the door.

Or check them back in when it's time to use them.

Strange, Thess, what you state as 'logic' doesn't 'seem' very logical to me. I guess I'm just 'brainless' when it comes to logic.

Now, let me state AGAIN what I stated upon the opening of this thread. The Word states 'God the Father' OVER AND OVER again. What my point was; WHY does the Word, NOT ONCE, mention 'God the Son'? IF Christ IS God, why would it be stated OVER AND OVER again, 'God the Father', yet NOT ONCE does it state, "God the Son"? And I don't believe that it's THAT difficult to answer this question if one simply follows the 'logic' of my question.

In other words, God the Father is PLAINLY stated through the Word. BUT one has to 'create' the words 'God the Son' for they do NOT exist in the Word. Assumption will simply foul up ones world 99 percent of the time. And isn't the 'nature' of God something that would be utterly rediculous to make 'assumptions' about.

And THEN make these 'assumptions' DOCTRINE. And NOT ONLY doctrine, but doctrine that those that accept it INSIST that it MUST be accepted by EVERYONE that is to 'be saved'.

MEC

 

[Georges]

The most glaring evidence.....

Why didn't Jesus say "I am God" and to heck with the consequences?

Even if he said "I am" it doesn't mean that he is God if you understand the Memra concept.

Why didn't he just say "I am God" and when questioned?

If someone dissented, he could have zapped the life out of them....then bought them back to life on the spot....

He didn't, why?

 

[Imagican]

He didn't for He was following the 'will of God'.

Watch this; When asked about the MOST important law, His answer; 'Love GOD with all thy........................' He did NOT say; 'love ME...........'. Pretty simple really. He NEVER stated that He WAS God because that would NOT have been the 'truth'. If it HAD been the 'truth' there's NO WAY He would have left HIS PEOPLE ignorant of this FACT. Christ stated PLAINLY that He had come to save HIS PEOPLE, (the Jews). Now WHY would He have had ANY reason to 'hide' the truth from them? When God sent angels to destroy two cities, the Bible states that decided NOT to 'hide' what He was doing from Abraham. Now, WHY would God be SO deceptive in dealing with HIS PEOPLE concerning 'trinity'? And IF Christ WAS God, then WHY did God HIMSELF call Christ 'MY Son'? Tought questions that HAVE no logical or Biblical answer. What does THAT in itself say?

MEC

 

[Solo]

Was Jesus fully a man? He calls himself Son of Man.

Was Jesus fully God? He calls himself Son of God.

Only those that follow the spirit of antichrist deny that God came in the flesh.

The Statement of Faith of this forum acknowledges that Jesus is God. Those that refuse to believe this truth are not born of God.

 

[mutzrein]

Was Jesus fully a man? He calls himself Son of Man.

Was Jesus fully God? He calls himself Son of God.

Only those that follow the spirit of antichrist deny that God came in the flesh.

The Statement of Faith of this forum acknowledges that Jesus is God. Those that refuse to believe this truth are not born of God.

Let the record show: I am son of man. I am son of God.

So . . .

Is Ed (alias mutzrein) fully a man? He calls himself son of man.

Is Ed fully God? He calls himself son of God.

In fact every man who is born of God is both son of man AND son of God.

And as a son of God I am a co-heir WITH Christ of the kingdom of God.

Scripture declares: ‘Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.’ And to this I say AMEN.

And again scripture declares that those who are born of God are born, ‘not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.’ And to this I say AMEN.

In fact I say AMEN and AMEN to the word of God as it is presented in the 66 books of scripture.

How is it then that mere man on the basis of his own definition of scripture can deny that I am born of the Spirit of the living God? He is standing on shaky ground indeed who does this.

 

[Solo]

Was Jesus fully a man? He calls himself Son of Man.

Was Jesus fully God? He calls himself Son of God.

Only those that follow the spirit of antichrist deny that God came in the flesh.

The Statement of Faith of this forum acknowledges that Jesus is God. Those that refuse to believe this truth are not born of God.

Let the record show: I am son of man. I am son of God.

So . . .

Is Ed (alias mutzrein) fully a man? He calls himself son of man.

Is Ed fully God? He calls himself son of God.

In fact every man who is born of God is both son of man AND son of God.

And as a son of God I am a co-heir WITH Christ of the kingdom of God.

Scripture declares: ‘Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.’ And to this I say AMEN.

And again scripture declares that those who are born of God are born, ‘not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.’ And to this I say AMEN.

In fact I say AMEN and AMEN to the word of God as it is presented in the 66 books of scripture.

How is it then that mere man on the basis of his own definition of scripture can deny that I am born of the Spirit of the living God? He is standing on shaky ground indeed who does this.

Ed isn't the ONLY begotten Son of God, and Ed isn't JEHOVAH, and Ed isn't God(EL). Ed is only a man.

Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, and is fully God.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:18

Jesus is the Word and the Word is God, fully God.

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:5-11

Jesus Christ is Lord of the dead and the living, and he shall judge all. AS IT IS WRITTEN in Isaiah, Every knee shall bow to the LORD JEHOVAH, and every tongue shall confess

9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living. 10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. 11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Romans 14:9-11

21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD (JEHOVAH)? and there is no God(EL) else beside me; a just God (EL) and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God (EL), and there is none else. 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. Isaiah 45:21-23

 

[JM]

The Statement of Faith recognizes that Jesus is God.

 

[theSeriousOne]

"God-the-Son" is the EXACT OPPOSITE of "the son of God".
But those under the triune spell of the Catholic Church can't see that.