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God's Standard changes with Season and People.

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God's Standard changes with Season - and as we develope.

Really? Does HIS standard really change? NEVER!!!

I have had a similar thread on this topic (Christianising Wordliness).

I keep wondering why we are getting used to sin. Sin today is becoming a way of life...

Mom told me in their days 'girls don't wear red lipstick'. Only professional whores used them. But today...we have developed.

Trousers were rarely worn by women. It was considered indecent. However today it is inevitable to all women.

Mini skirts :shocked only worldclass whores wore them. How about today? If you don't own a pair as a female (especially among the younger generation) you are considered old-fashioned, boring, stupid, dull, an idiot etc. And in churches today people still wear those.


Romance was for the married. However today...people engage in one sexual activity or the other. If you are not sexually active then you...sure have a biological challenge.
(And in those days majority of women were virgins. I have interviewd alot of women - young girls and teenagers who said: I'm not a virgin. One of the girls told me, 'I'm proud of losing my virginity'.)

Gay marriage was a taboo. Deep secret! In fact there was no gay marriage. Gay people do stuff secretly. Today some churches wed gay people.

Dating! In those days a man never lives with a woman he intends to marry. However today women who already have babies are wedded in a church, their children are their bridesmaid, pageboy, flowergirls etc. The pastor ignores this.


Music. Music in those days was precise. There was no similarity between Gospel music and worldy/secular music. However today you may not notice the difference.


Dressing generally: A Christian was known by his or her dressing code.

Politics. Today majority of christians practise politics...not mere politics: they do abominable things in the name of politics.

Why do people sin more today? We believe God is a very merciful God who would always forgive our sins. Some even ask forgiveness (in advance) over a sin they are yet to commit: 'Forgive me God, I need to get laid just once more...that would be next week, Oh Lord. Please do forgive me in advance.'


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In those days once a girl gets pregnant a whole community cries and sobs. Abortin was not remembered.

Today we are developed. No one fears abortion. You can have an almost painless abortion. Chritian moms don't want disgrace. They'd rather encourage their daughters to do the 'right thing'.

I think there is a GP between developement and the fear of God.:dunno :shrug :confused
 
Dating! In those days a man never lives with a woman he intends to marry. However today women who already have babies are wedded in a church, their children are their bridesmaid, pageboy, flowergirls etc. The pastor ignores this.

How should a woman that has had babies out of wedlock be treated at church?
 
Dating! In those days a man never lives with a woman he intends to marry. However today women who already have babies are wedded in a church, their children are their bridesmaid, pageboy, flowergirls etc. The pastor ignores this.

How should a woman that has had babies out of wedlock be treated at church?

This may require another thread. I think we have had discusion on this before.

Oncs there is intercourse...there's a bond. The joining together has been carried out by the two immediately they met.

What the minister does is only to pray and bless the couple - and never to repeat the whole wedding ritual - as if nothing has been done before.
 
Dating! In those days a man never lives with a woman he intends to marry. However today women who already have babies are wedded in a church, their children are their bridesmaid, pageboy, flowergirls etc. The pastor ignores this.

How should a woman that has had babies out of wedlock be treated at church?

This may require another thread. I think we have had discusion on this before.

Oncs there is intercourse...there's a bond. The joining together has been carried out by the two immediately they met.

What the minister does is only to pray and bless the couple - and never to repeat the whole wedding ritual - as if nothing has been done before.

What if the man she wants to marry isn't the father of her children?
 
Dating! In those days a man never lives with a woman he intends to marry. However today women who already have babies are wedded in a church, their children are their bridesmaid, pageboy, flowergirls etc. The pastor ignores this.

How should a woman that has had babies out of wedlock be treated at church?

This may require another thread. I think we have had discusion on this before.

Oncs there is intercourse...there's a bond. The joining together has been carried out by the two immediately they met.

What the minister does is only to pray and bless the couple - and never to repeat the whole wedding ritual - as if nothing has been done before.

What if the man she wants to marry isn't the father of her children?

I see it as trying to break from an existing bond...and hoping to form a new bond. Note that intercourse is something more spiritual than we may think. It is powerful.
 
This may require another thread. I think we have had discusion on this before.

Oncs there is intercourse...there's a bond. The joining together has been carried out by the two immediately they met.

What the minister does is only to pray and bless the couple - and never to repeat the whole wedding ritual - as if nothing has been done before.

What if the man she wants to marry isn't the father of her children?

I see it as trying to break from an existing bond...and hoping to form a new bond. Note that intercourse is something more spiritual than we may think. It is powerful.

So should a pastor refuse to marry the new couple?
 
Could you weigh the least sin in the scales of eternity, you would fly from it as from a serpent, and abhor the least appearance of evil. Look upon all sin as that which crucified the Saviour, and you will see it to be "exceeding sinful."
GREAT EMPHASIS. Thank you for this
 
Back in the day is a fairy tale. There was sin then, there is sin now. Cultures change and aspects of cultures either disappear or reemerge. Every generation thinks its living in the last days.

We are actually about as deviant as we were during the 1920s before the crash here in the States. It also doesn't help that now we have 24hr news networks and the internet. So its easier to get exposed to horrors or things you don't' agree with. The only real thing that has changed is the number on the calendar.
 
This may require another thread. I think we have had discusion on this before.

Oncs there is intercourse...there's a bond. The joining together has been carried out by the two immediately they met.

What the minister does is only to pray and bless the couple - and never to repeat the whole wedding ritual - as if nothing has been done before.

What if the man she wants to marry isn't the father of her children?

I see it as trying to break from an existing bond...and hoping to form a new bond. Note that intercourse is something more spiritual than we may think. It is powerful.

So should a pastor refuse to marry the new couple?

In my church they conduct interview before you are joined. Some for fear of being denied the opportunity to be wedded (as a result of immorality) tell lies. The rest who testify the truth are only prayed for.

And in a case where your past experience was with another man...but you have another man in mind to marry ...well it is simple. You can't be joined.

It has changed today tho. Ministers for fear of losing members or being thought as radicals ignore this part.
 
Back in the day is a fairy tale. There was sin then, there is sin now. Cultures change and aspects of cultures either disappear or reemerge. Every generation thinks its living in the last days.

We are actually about as deviant as we were during the 1920s before the crash here in the States. It also doesn't help that now we have 24hr news networks and the internet. So its easier to get exposed to horrors or things you don't' agree with. The only real thing that has changed is the number on the calendar.

Any F&F. Any instances? Exampls! Proofs?
 
I see it as trying to break from an existing bond...and hoping to form a new bond. Note that intercourse is something more spiritual than we may think. It is powerful.

So should a pastor refuse to marry the new couple?

In my church they conduct interview before you are joined. Some for fear of being denied the opportunity to be wedded (as a result of immorality) tell lies. The rest who testify the truth are only prayed for.

And in a case where your past experience was with another man...but you have another man in mind to marry ...well it is simple. You can't be joined.

It has changed today tho. Ministers for fear of losing members or being thought as radicals ignore this part.

Ok, let's take it a step further. Let's say a woman was a prostitute. She had sex more times then she could count. She had several babies out of wedlock and several more abortions.

Since that time, she has accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior. In your opinion, she should not be able to get married, because of her out of wedlock sex, correct?
 
I see it as trying to break from an existing bond...and hoping to form a new bond. Note that intercourse is something more spiritual than we may think. It is powerful.

So should a pastor refuse to marry the new couple?

In my church they conduct interview before you are joined. Some for fear of being denied the opportunity to be wedded (as a result of immorality) tell lies. The rest who testify the truth are only prayed for.

And in a case where your past experience was with another man...but you have another man in mind to marry ...well it is simple. You can't be joined.

It has changed today tho. Ministers for fear of losing members or being thought as radicals ignore this part.

Ok, let's take it a step further. Let's say a woman was a prostitute. She had sex more times then she could count. She had several babies out of wedlock and several more abortions.

Since that time, she has accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior. In your opinion, she should not be able to get married, because of her out of wedlock sex, correct?
Christ and the woman of Samaria. You remeber this account?

The bonds are always there. But thank God for the efficacy in the Blood. Thank God for Jesus. That doesn't mean an individual should flirt about hoping that Christ would wipe away all my sin.

God will forgive you: sure. But note that you have been one flesh with many people. Does God break the bonds? I don't know. Remember it was sex that tore apart the Family of king David. David vs Bathsheba and David's son vs his sister. We know the rest

God forgave David....but his suffering lingered.
 
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In my church they conduct interview before you are joined. Some for fear of being denied the opportunity to be wedded (as a result of immorality) tell lies. The rest who testify the truth are only prayed for.

And in a case where your past experience was with another man...but you have another man in mind to marry ...well it is simple. You can't be joined.

It has changed today tho. Ministers for fear of losing members or being thought as radicals ignore this part.

Ok, let's take it a step further. Let's say a woman was a prostitute. She had sex more times then she could count. She had several babies out of wedlock and several more abortions.

Since that time, she has accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior. In your opinion, she should not be able to get married, because of her out of wedlock sex, correct?
Christ and the woman of Samaria. You remeber this account?

The bonds are always there. But thank God for the efficacy in the Blood. Thank God for Jesus. That doesn't mean an individual should flirt about hoping that Christ would wipe away all my sin.

God will forgive you: sure. But note that you have been one flesh with many people. Does God break the bonds? I don't know. Remember it was sex that tore apart the Family of king David. David vs Beersheba and David's son vs his sister. We know the rest

God forgave David....but his suffering lingered.

So, let the woman get married, or not?
 
Get married to another man? That is complicating spiritual matters, I would say.

David married Bathsheba. Tho he didnt have absolute rest. His son left the bond open and had problems that cost his life.
 
I would suggest the woman should go back to her first bond. If that is totally impossible then she may get married. To me it is better one complete what one started
 
Back in the day is a fairy tale. There was sin then, there is sin now. Cultures change and aspects of cultures either disappear or reemerge. Every generation thinks its living in the last days.

We are actually about as deviant as we were during the 1920s before the crash here in the States. It also doesn't help that now we have 24hr news networks and the internet. So its easier to get exposed to horrors or things you don't' agree with. The only real thing that has changed is the number on the calendar.

Any F&F. Any instances? Exampls! Proofs?
What do you want proofs of? How about you support your claim first. You are stating that Sin is becoming the norm. What evidence do you have that it used to be better and now its worse? So far all you've done is state some stuff about lipstick and miniskirts and something about Gay Marriage.

Well, lets see. The Holocaust/Nazism, Bootlegging, slavery. Segregation, Communism, The invention of Cocaine, Mobsters, Nuclear weapons, the Japanese internment camps on American soil, the genocide of American Indians, etc.

Lets see, that compared to Lipstick and gay people getting a license that grants them legal rights under the law. I'll take now over genocide and World war 2
 
I give you just 1 verse.

Christianising worldliness is on the increase.

Read Matt 24:12
Christ already knew what would happen. Would Christ be wrong about sin?
 
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