Gospel Blues

[Dave...]

Sounds like an oxymoron, right? While much of the original blues is very worldly, there was a lot of it that was really deep, rich Gospel music in the flavor of David's psalms. They come from hardships, pain, crying out to God, trying to understand, and ultimately trusting in Him.

If you remember, the rock band Led Zeppelin took the gospel songs "Nobodies Fault But Mine", and "in My Time Of Dying", and altered them a bit to make them worldly, but the original are still very good.

Here's a guy like Mississippi John Hurt. "Like a tree by the water". I like that.

I Shall Not Be Moved.
Lyrics

[Verse 1]
I'm on my way to heaven, I shall not be moved
On my way to heaven, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree that's planted by the water
I shall not be moved

[Chorus]
I shall not, I shall not be moved
I shall not, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree that's planted by the water
I shall not be moved

[Verse 2]
Oh preacher, I shall not be moved
Oh preacher, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree that's planted by the water
I shall not be moved

[Verse 3]
I'm sanctified and holy, I shall not be moved
Sanctified and holy, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree that's planted by the water
I shall not be moved

[Chorus]
I shall not, I shall not be moved
I shall not, I shall not be moved
Just like a tree that's planted by the water
I shall not be moved

Anyone else appreciate this stuff?

 

[hawkman]

Ry Cooder - Jesus on the Mainline

 

[Dave...]

That's good stuff.

I've heard some of his stuff before. I think it was the movie "Oh Brother Where art Thou".

I love the sound of the dobro and those old homemade box electric guitars.

 

[Dave...]

Now I remember. It was the movie crossroads with Ralph Macchio. I got the soundtrack. The song was called "feeling bad blues". All guitar.

 

[Dave...]

Cigar Box Slide Guitar - Gospel Blues - Lord, I Just Can't Keep From Crying - Blind Willie Johnson​

By daddystovepipe. If you've never heard him, he's got some interesting stuff.

Here's really good example of the cigar box guitar.

 

[hawkman]

Phil Keaggy - "John the Revelator " an old Son House song .

 

[bramblewild]

This is probably one of the first recorded rap or rap-like songs, and it's a gospel song.

 

[Dave...]

This is probably one of the first recorded rap or rap-like songs, and it's a gospel song.

I notice that there's no music. It reminds me of the do-wop stuff from the fifties that was mostly written around a fifty five gallon steel drum that's burning whatever it can find. That's old school street music.

 

[jasonc]

I notice that there's no music. It reminds me of the do-wop stuff from the fifties that was mostly written around a fifty five gallon steel drum that's burning whatever it can find. That's old school street music.

Do woop was pioneered by blacks and those too poor to have music lessons and instruments.

It borrowed from barbershop quartets in vocals .

 

[Hidden In Him]

This is probably one of the first recorded rap or rap-like songs, and it's a gospel song.

Do woop was pioneered by blacks and those too poor to have music lessons and instruments.

It borrowed from barbershop quartets in vocals .

So amazing to look back at 60 years ago and see how much Christianity was still part of the culture.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Cigar Box Slide Guitar - Gospel Blues - Lord, I Just Can't Keep From Crying - Blind Willie Johnson​

By daddystovepipe. If you've never heard him, he's got some interesting stuff.

Here's really good example of the cigar box guitar.

That Daddy Stovepipe has got Led Zeppelin written all over it. And if he put a full band and some lyrics behind Rooster Blues, that second song could be a show closer. It moves.

Thanks for sharing. Jimmy Page was who got me into blues, and I've still never heard anyone duplicate stuff like Since I've Been Loving You and some of the other songs where he played blues in concert. Something about blues music that is unlike any other genre.

 

[jasonc]

So amazing to look back at 60 years ago and see how much Christianity was still part of the culture.

Don't , I would have a headache digging up articles I read on that era. Rabbit trails .

Do woop was abhored by the mainstream. Jewish business persons and those who never before heard it and listened to it gave them a chance .

I read the history of do woop to get the idea.i figured it was late 40s and connected to barbershop quartets .it was just off from the time frame on the quartets .

That irc was actually a late 30s start up and the African origins I wasn't aware of.

In the south .it was horrendous on how divided churches were .

Look up American Methodist episcopal (a.m.e) and it goes back to post bellum time in my state . Black only church because they were so rejected but heard the gospel .

I have a photo of a local church that is directly tied to such events . A school house .

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F682191847448248320

The church is near that

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F769963739048017920

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F769963739048017920

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F769963757630898176

The names on that plaque.yates ,Hudson and colley .family names who I know .mr Hudson was my principal of ironically the very high school that he was mandated to attend for blacks only .

Colley there is a store namesake and her surname is known for that and the fresh collards and chickens she cooked .

Yates ,Yates grocery and Yates produce ,Dallas t Yates was the first black cop hired .

 

[jasonc]

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F769963757630898176

 

[jasonc]

https://jasoncran.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F769963739048017920

 

[Dave...]

That Daddy Stovepipe has got Led Zeppelin written all over it. And if he put a full band and some lyrics behind Rooster Blues, that second song could be a show closer. It moves.

Thanks for sharing. Jimmy Page was who got me into blues, and I've still never heard anyone duplicate stuff like Since I've Been Loving You and some of the other songs where he played blues in concert. Something about blues music that is unlike any other genre.

Jimmy's technique was unique. Some called him sloppy. Some of it was. But I hear that some of the nuances of his play is very difficult to copy. I think it was intentional. Many times what sounds sloppy and out of time is just the nuances of the blues.

You might want to try Alison Krause and Union Station live. It's a double CD set. Great dobro sound. It's more blue grass, but it has a great sound. There's some real gems on the CD set. Just a different angle for blues. More wholesome too. It introduced me to blue grass. Blue grass very much parallels blues as a kind of home grown street music.

The intro to the 'The boy who wouldn't hoe corn', below, is called 'A tribute to Peader O'Donnell/ Monkey let the hogs out'. All dobro.

'Now that I found you', I think, was an old pop song from the seventies. I like their version. 'Maybe', and " But know that I love you' are good.

Here was the encore. This is Gospel...

 

[Dave...]

BTW, you can find this kind of stuff in thrift stores all the time. Everyone is getting rid of their old CD's. I go in on half price day and sometimes walk out with a stack of ten or even twenty CD's for fifty cents to a dollar each. I get them for any superficial reason. As long as it has some potential. I discovered a lot of good stuff that way. I sit down with my hot cup of chocolate and start slapping them in the CD player one by one.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Jimmy's technique was unique. Some called him sloppy. Some of it was. But I hear that some of the nuances of his play is very difficult to copy. I think it was intentional. Many times what sounds sloppy and out of time is just the nuances of the blues.

That's exactly right. There was this natural quality to it, as if he didn't particularly care about every little thing, and it does probably in part explain how unique his style was.

I discovered a lot of good stuff that way. I sit down with my hot cup of chocolate and start slapping them in the CD player one by one.

You sound like a true connoisseur : ) I'm actually just trying to get back to worship. Just finished work (well almost) on a garage turned studio, and I plan on putting all my old music equipment in there to start and see if I can't get back into playing.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Do woop was abhored by the mainstream. Jewish business persons and those who never before heard it and listened to it gave them a chance .

I read the history of do woop to get the idea.i figured it was late 40s and connected to barbershop quartets .it was just off from the time frame on the quartets .

That irc was actually a late 30s start up and the African origins I wasn't aware of.

In the south .it was horrendous on how divided churches were .

Look up American Methodist episcopal (a.m.e) and it goes back to post bellum time in my state . Black only church because they were so rejected but heard the gospel .

Yeah, thanks for this Jason. I tend to wax nostalgic without actually having lived through it. I was born in 64, and wasn't even paying attention until the mid-late 70s, when things were finally starting to change a little.

 

[jasonc]

Yeah, thanks for this Jason. I tend to wax nostalgic without actually having lived through it. I was born in 64, and wasn't even paying attention until the mid-late 70s, when things were finally starting to change a little.

I was born in 73. I can touch relics of segregation.

My old pastor died last week .her church founded by her husband was the first integrated church .

There was the black church whose land was donated and building funded by the white landowners in 1908.

That building was restored and was the first photo I took .it was moved to a former cemetery across from the old black high school .

It was never in Gifford but the congregation is now . The congregation moved from sebestian to Vero to a black community then sold that and built a church that still there's not to far from the oldest church they had . There is marker I need to reread .not sure if it's in my photos .

 

[Hidden In Him]

I was born in 73. I can touch relics of segregation.

My old pastor died last week .her church founded by her husband was the first integrated church .

There was the black church whose land was donated and building funded by the white landowners in 1908.

That building was restored and was the first photo I took .it was moved to a former cemetery across from the old black high school .

It was never in Gifford but the congregation is now . The congregation moved from sebestian to Vero to a black community then sold that and built a church that still there's not to far from the oldest church they had . There is marker I need to reread .not sure if it's in my photos .

Out of curiosity, are you black, Jason?