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He Included me.

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This post is to give thanks to God for inculding me in his wonderfull salvation plan. Just think ,God Chose his people before he formed the world, sent his son to pay the price in blood in full and now he is my rightousness and covering for all my sins, past, present and future.
To me the debates about freewill and predestination and whose choice ,are not debates at all, just men attempting to obtain something that is not theirs by something thet do or say. How sad that there are those who will never taste of the Lords great Salvation plan, because they reject ,resist and do not believe him but they cannot say they were not told. God's elect can never resist him when he calls.
Give Jesus Christ all the honor, glory and praise due his name for his wonderfull and complete work of which no man can obtain save by the love and mecrcy of our great God. His name is JESUS CHRIST the LORD and Saviour and I thank him now and forever for what he alone did, does and will do.
God has an election and a remment and he lifted me form the depths of sin to be his for his work and his purpose. Thank God we are not under the law but under the Grace of God. There is no other way. He included me. I could never do what he has done. I pray he included you also thu his mecry grace and Love.
 
To me the debates about freewill and predestination and whose choice ,are not debates at all, just men attempting to obtain something that is not theirs by something they do or say.


Isaiah 44:18 They have not known nor understood: for He hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see (John 9:39); and their hearts, that they cannot understand.

Matthew 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

John 6 (vs.44-45) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath HEARD (John 10:27), and hath learned of the Father (Colossians 2:7), cometh unto me. (v.37-39) ALL THAT THE FATHER GIVETH ME shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out (Isaiah 53:12). For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of ALL WHICH HE HATH GIVEN ME I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. (John 3:27).

The SAINTS are Christ's inheritance, not because of their own "freewill"; but His will (Ephesians 1:5); nor because they "accepted" Him when they think they were "offered a choice". But it is because He gave Himself for THEIR sins before the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8; 2 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 4:3; 1 Peter 1:20; Titus 1:2; Romans 9:23). He bore THEIR iniquities (Isaiah 53:11); NOT ALL OF MANKIND, but "many": "His people" (Matthew 1:21). He made intercession FOR THEM as transgressors. The Father GAVE THEM to Him (John 6:65; Acts 13:48)

All praise and glory to our God and Saviour Jesus Christ!
 
To me the debates about freewill and predestination and whose choice ,are not debates at all, just men attempting to obtain something that is not theirs by something thet do or say

So you are saying "No Free Will", Then your next sentence should have stopped "How sad that there are those who will never taste of the Lords great Salvation plan" <---Here. The rest (because they reject ,resist and do not believe him but they cannot say they were not told) implies that those people actually had a "choice"(free will).

Please, study and test everything according to the scriptures.

Acts 17: 11 Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true.(NIV)
 
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Election is sovereign and when men object they should read Romans 9:20 and 21. Salvation is the work of God. It is not the work of man for God.
Salvation is the complete canceling of sins, not our cessation from some sins. Salvation is being delivered from and becoming dead to the Law. Not our attempts to keep the law. The Holy Spirit does not try to draw sinners to Christ. The holy Spirit enters the hearts of dead sinners choosen by God before the world was formed and redeemes them by the precious blood of Christ.
The Lord God is perfect. What man can add to or take away from what he has done. God will never accept anything nor person who is not perfect. The only Sacrifice he will accept is the perfect man and there is none. Thankfully our God has provide for his people that pefect man who is Jesus Christ the Lord. He finished his perfect work and now he rules in heaven and sits on the right hand of God. All we can do is be thankfull he inculded me and I am. And yes anyone who clings to anything they may say or do is in real trouble and still stives with God, not entering into his rest of ceasing from such things and giving God all the honor, praise and Glory due his name.
SO.... I thank God he included me and my hope and pray is he included you also. Thank God for HIS mercy and HIS Grace now and forever. "Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power. Blessed is the man whom thou chooses and causes to approach unto thee"
As Pslams 103:10 says "He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities." and THAT is Good news
 
Election is sovereign and when men object they should read Romans 9:20 and 21. Salvation is the work of God. It is not the work of man for God.
Salvation is the complete canceling of sins, not our cessation from some sins. Salvation is being delivered from and becoming dead to the Law. Not our attempts to keep the law. The Holy Spirit does not try to draw sinners to Christ. The holy Spirit enters the hearts of dead sinners choosen by God before the world was formed and redeemes them by the precious blood of Christ.
The Lord God is perfect. What man can add to or take away from what he has done. God will never accept anything nor person who is not perfect. The only Sacrifice he will accept is the perfect man and there is none. Thankfully our God has provide for his people that pefect man who is Jesus Christ the Lord. He finished his perfect work and now he rules in heaven and sits on the right hand of God. All we can do is be thankfull he inculded me and I am. And yes anyone who clings to anything they may say or do is in real trouble and still stives with God, not entering into his rest of ceasing from such things and giving God all the honor, praise and Glory due his name.
SO.... I thank God he included me and my hope and pray is he included you also. Thank God for HIS mercy and HIS Grace now and forever. "Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power. Blessed is the man whom thou chooses and causes to approach unto thee"
As Pslams 103:10 says "He hath not dealt with us after our sins; nor rewarded us according to our iniquities." and THAT is Good news

Gal 3:22~~But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. ( in His Sovereignty)

Rom 11:32~~For God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all. (In His sovereignty)

So God has put us all in disobedience, and put us all under the scripture, with the scripture being the only way out. ( In His Sovereignty remember)

John 3:18~~"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (In His sovereignty)

Matt 12:32~~12:32~~"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him {Saul of Tarsus - Paul - is a good example - he spoke against Jesus}. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, neither in this age {age of Israel - Jewish Age} nor the age to come {Church Age - began 10 days after Jesus' Ascension}."

John 16:8-9~~"And He(Holy Spirit), when He(Holy Spirit) comes, will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me

In His Sovereignty He has said this:

Ps 9:8~~And He will judge the world in righteousness; He will execute judgment for the peoples with equity.

Ps 96:10~~Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns; Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved; He will judge the peoples with equity."

Rom 1:16-17~~16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it [the] righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS [man] SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

How does God remain Just with How you described election?
 
Sorry folks, I hardly ever get what people are trying to say. And my apology is quite sincere. To elaborate, I surely would be grateful for being in God's salvation plan if I was completely certain I will be saved. But that makes perfect sense provided I value my existence. And as such, my image of God matters greatly, for I would not value my existing forever with a God I did not trust. But that doesn't matter because the opposite direction of where I want to go is the Lake of fire. So of course I would be grateful to not end up there and this thanks would end up being self serving. However, I do not think God would respect a butt-kisser, so my thanking Him may have some measure of patronizing depending upon whether I believe it is my faith that saves me or His mercy or even if perhaps both are the same thing.

For I would count those who who are thrown into hell as part of His salvation plan also, albeit this is a negative aspect of it. Nonetheless, if I ended up not being saved, somehow I don't think I would be as thankful seeing that I was collateral damage in the process. Hence you can see why I might feel I am patronizing God to some degree. I don't think I could fully appreciate His mercy without knowing what I did wrong to find myself in need of salvation in the first place so that my thankfulness is sincere. And the only thing I can truly be thankful for, is that there was a good and honest man who suffered and died on a cross, yet forgave those who crucified him. I can thank God, there is a place to hope for salvation. I can even thank God for the futility that mankind is in wherein God has brought forth hope, if indeed I come away refined from the ordeal. But if I am just a vessel for dross, still God has done nothing wrong in my view, for all exists unto His Glory.

To sum up, I would note that Jesus said there will be much gnashing of teeth. And I take that to heart.
 
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This post is to give thanks to God for inculding me in his wonderfull salvation plan. Just think ,God Chose his people before he formed the world, sent his son to pay the price in blood in full and now he is my rightousness and covering for all my sins, past, present and future.
To me the debates about freewill and predestination and whose choice ,are not debates at all, just men attempting to obtain something that is not theirs by something thet do or say. How sad that there are those who will never taste of the Lords great Salvation plan, because they reject ,resist and do not believe him but they cannot say they were not told. God's elect can never resist him when he calls.
Give Jesus Christ all the honor, glory and praise due his name for his wonderfull and complete work of which no man can obtain save by the love and mecrcy of our great God. His name is JESUS CHRIST the LORD and Saviour and I thank him now and forever for what he alone did, does and will do.
God has an election and a remment and he lifted me form the depths of sin to be his for his work and his purpose. Thank God we are not under the law but under the Grace of God. There is no other way. He included me. I could never do what he has done. I pray he included you also thu his mecry grace and Love.

This is really wonderful that you have received Jesus as your Saviour and Lord!! When did wonder rebirth day happen? It's truly a new birthday.
 
The SAINTS are Christ's inheritance, not because of their own "freewill"; but His will (Ephesians 1:5); nor because they "accepted" Him when they think they were "offered a choice". But it is because He gave Himself for THEIR sins before the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8; 2 Timothy 1:9; Hebrews 4:3; 1 Peter 1:20; Titus 1:2; Romans 9:23). He bore THEIR iniquities (Isaiah 53:11); NOT ALL OF MANKIND, but "many": "His people" (Matthew 1:21). He made intercession FOR THEM as transgressors. The Father GAVE THEM to Him (John 6:65; Acts 13:48)

All praise and glory to our God and Saviour Jesus Christ!

Amen!
 
To me the debates about freewill and predestination and whose choice ,are not debates at all, just men attempting to obtain something that is not theirs by something thet do or say.
:amen
 
This post is to give thanks to God for inculding me in his wonderfull salvation plan. Just think ,God Chose his people before he formed the world, sent his son to pay the price in blood in full and now he is my rightousness and covering for all my sins, past, present and future.
To me the debates about freewill and predestination and whose choice ,are not debates at all, just men attempting to obtain something that is not theirs by something thet do or say. How sad that there are those who will never taste of the Lords great Salvation plan, because they reject ,resist and do not believe him but they cannot say they were not told. God's elect can never resist him when he calls.
Give Jesus Christ all the honor, glory and praise due his name for his wonderfull and complete work of which no man can obtain save by the love and mecrcy of our great God. His name is JESUS CHRIST the LORD and Saviour and I thank him now and forever for what he alone did, does and will do.
God has an election and a remment and he lifted me form the depths of sin to be his for his work and his purpose. Thank God we are not under the law but under the Grace of God. There is no other way. He included me. I could never do what he has done. I pray he included you also thu his mecry grace and Love.
:thumbsup :amen he paid a debt he did not owe i owed a debt i cold not pay.:thumbsup
 
God's mercy and Grace are truely amazing. Thank you to all who trust only in Christ and not in there choices. One thing is certain....Jesus Christ didn't come into this world to try and save his people. God doesn't TRY anything. He always accomplishes what he purposed. Jesus Christ saved his people and he will never fail to do so based on what a man may or may not do. Our God is GREAT.
 
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