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Heal me Jesus, I don't want to go to heaven!

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Hi I'm new, I tried to make a post in another topic about this but it didn't show up so I thought i would try this.

I found this guy on Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_geometry and he has this just below his photo. I am curious as to why no one has ever viewed it like this before and doesn't this change everything about wanting to be healed by Christ, cause I mean after all you can't be healed of your illnesses and go to heaven at the same time. And to to be healed by Jesus negates the view we have on heaven as well as death.
 
the thing is as much as we should want to be with the Lord, we should ALSO want to fulfill His will and purpose for us here. His purpose for His people is not just to get their toes in the door of heaven. We have a work to do on earth, we have a growing process to go through a sanctification process, maturing process. He wants us to not just get saved and die to be in heaven- He wants us to mature into sons of God meat for the Fathers use, and to live to testify and give glory to His name. To be living epistles and witnesses of His faithfullness, power, grace, truth in the earth. To WALK BY FAITH, everyday dying to self and learning to trust him deeper, fuller,truer.

Not to mention besides all of this- there are many illnesses that you can have and suffer greatly with and that will never kill you. You may be in terrible pain unable to do anything for the Lord for 60 years and die of old age. There is no glory for God in that if you didnt walk by faith but just lived to die and go to heaven.
 
RaymondKroft said:
Hi I'm new, I tried to make a post in another topic about this but it didn't show up so I thought i would try this.

I found this guy on Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_geometry and he has this just below his photo. I am curious as to why no one has ever viewed it like this before and doesn't this change everything about wanting to be healed by Christ, cause I mean after all you can't be healed of your illnesses and go to heaven at the same time. And to to be healed by Jesus negates the view we have on heaven as well as death.
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Personally I am not into mysticism and Kabbala because it leads to vain things.
 
Faith is the greatest Vainity of them all. To have faith you must first question and come to a conclusion within your own self. There-in lies the ego! A faith built on ego is neither divine or well chosen. And all things built upon are crippled, one sided, and stagnat. Jesus may have spoke about the path or the way, but I can't really recall his opinion of what he encountered on his way. And you can very well bet 99% of the time it was the very same type of people you find on any and all religious sites.

As for heal me jesus I don't want to go to heaven. You have done nothing but avoid the statement. Everyone wants Jesus to heal them but it's never spiritually it's always physically. And to be healed by Jesus is a to deny heaven i.e. avoid death. Yet to get to heaven you must first submit to death. Therefore giving yourself over to jesus instead of realizing that you are just as much of a son of god as he is destructive to your own nature. This is why he was persecuting for acting as if he was a god. Another one of Moses' commandements broke.
 
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This is why he was persecuting for acting as if he was a god. Another one of Moses' commandements broke.
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So you don't believe Jesus Christ was The Only Begotten Son of God, and nor that He was "Immanuel" which means 'God with us'? It would seem so by your paganistic line of reasoning.
 
First off Jesus was never called Immanuel directly. It only says that he would be called that thanks to Moses in the Old Testament. However Jesus never was called Immanuel.

Second as for my paganistic reasoning even the Baptisory of St.John has a pentagram on the cover it. Not to mention every church ever built has paganistic reason behind it's architecture since that architecture is based on Sacred Geometry. A geometry which condones the use of the Jesus Fish, Pentagram, The various forms of the cross as well as many other paganistic sybmols which are direectly related to Christianity.

And lets not forget that Christianity is attributed to Mythrism. Which was Pagan in origin. Even Christmas started out as a pagan holiday. And as far as Jesus being a Pagan, God of the Vine, Osiris. And or Horus is said to have been crucifed, had a virgin mother, as well as many other attributes that Jesus had. So even think for a minute that Jesus stands alone in his definition. For there are many Pagan dieties to which Jesus is directly related too.

Unlike the many I see Jesus for what he was, a man. Unlike the many I expect no more of him than I would any other man. If a man can act no better than those around him then his is no better. And unfortuneatly Jesus was a better man but to get there he had to be the lesser and ignore what other people were. Thus taking little interest and great sorrow upon himself for the selfish nature that we to this day have yet to escape.
 
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