Healthy diet - golden rules

[dga]

1. Eat only whole, unprocessed foods. Avoid processed foods. There are mainly two reasons for that. The first is, that the processed foods, contain many chemicals and aditives, which are harmful to the human body and are toxical. The second reason is that there are many vital and important nutrients, removed from the whole foods, when they are processed, and those nutrients are usually necessary for the body.

2. Eat only when you are hungry. Hunger is the best cook. The maximum amount of digestive juices, is contained in the body, when you are hungry, which in turn, will improve your digestion.
Also, if you eat only when you are hungry, your body weight, will become normal in a few months. You will become not too fat or too skinny. At the same time, your body will have enough time between the meals, to rest, repair itself, and clean itself from toxins. When you eat only when you are hungry, you will give your body the calories only when it needs them, so less will be stored as fat.

3. The size of your meals, should be about the size of your fist. When a person is born, the initial size of his stomach, is the size of his fist. Yes, you can be satisfied, with portions the size of your fist. The stomach has the ability, to be stretched out, a few times its original size, by eating big meals.
Eating of meals, the size of your fist, will let you feel light and energetic, after the meal, and will not make you feel heavy. If you feel heavy after eating a meal, you have eaten too much.
Also, eating meals the size of your fist, will let the body get only the calories and nutrients its needs, for its own repairing and function, and not too much will be left, for storing of fat.
Big meals, will make you tired, because the digestive process, also requires energy, in order to process and digest food. The digestive process requires more energy, than playing some aerobic sports.
Also, eating portions the size of your fist, requires less digestive juices, which will help the body, to digest the meal better and easier.

3. Move. There is a saying "Move or die". I think that that is true in some degree.
The lymphatic system in the body, contains more liquid, that the blood system.
The function of the lymphatic system, is to collect all the dead cells in the body, and to take them to the elimination organs, in order, to be taken out of the body. Also, the lymphatic system, is a part of the immune system. It transports the components of the immune system around the body.
The more the lymph liquid moves in the body, the more viruses and cancer cells, will be destroyed, by the lymphatic system.
But there is one conditon. The body has to move enough on a regular basis, every day. The lymphatic system does not have a pomp, like the blood system, to move it in the body. It is moved by the flexing and the excerise of the muscles. So the more the muscles are used, the more the lypmphatic system works, which in turn, makes more toxins to be taken out of the body, and stronger the immune system becomes.

Glory and thanks be to God the Father, in the name of the Lord Jesus, for the information above!

 

[tim-from-pa]

And this is why in addition to trying to eat right, I take multitudes of vitamins. Doctors for years have scoffed at this saying that "you get everything you need in a balanced diet". Yeah, right, maybe 1000BC eating kosher food in Israel according to the bible. But what do we have now?

Meats: While there's nothing wrong with meats, it's what they feed the animals that has me worried. Cattle get fed corn and whatnot. Should be eating grass ---- not to mention the drugs they give to them. Lately I hear the FDA is going to crack down on overuse of antibiotics. But that's what they do when they cram the animals together to make them into milk producing machines and then slaughter them mercilessly. Same goes for overcrowded chickens. I thank God that my sister-in-law raises chickens and we have our eggs from her much of the time. But I have to admit, the rest of my meat, who knows where it came from? Then if I get a disease or nutritional deficiency, I'm sure the medical world will say, "See? we told you about the dangers of saturated fats!" and other such crap. Yes, some of that stuff is bad, but not for the reasons they cite.

Produce: I love the colors in the fresh fruit and vegetable section of the supermarket. But again, what was sprayed on them? One study showed some even had fecal residue on it! And again, they genetically alter the plants (which the bible forbids) to make "seedless". Heck, it's a good idea to eat the seeds. Peach pits and apricot pits are bitter like almonds, but others like apples, oranges and so forth aren't as bad tasting. Again, if they spray, does the seed hold the toxins like the human liver so-to-speak?

Then there's the "substitute" idiocy that goes on. I told my wife don't get the "low fat" dressing or anything. This medical/pharmaceutical world is basically against salts, fats and anything that would make your food taste good instead of like their "healthy" cardboard. I told her that when they say "low fat" it is a serious red flag that there is corn sweetener sugar added in place of the fat, which is thousands of times worse. Either that, or artificial sweeteners.

And I can go on and on. But that is why I don't believe in a "balanced diet" any more and try to make up some lack with the vitamins. Our food's been raped too much. And for the added info, I take magadoses of vitamins because I even doubt the potency and purity of them as well! I just take "extra" to hope I simply get "enough". The unknown nutrients will still have to be fed to me by my diet and to go as natural as possible is the best. Fruits, vegetables, nuts, meats (except to package them) are all basically minimally altered. But if it comes in a box, or can, or bag, you know it's been through the mill literally.

 

[Kellig]

Read I Timothy 4:1-8 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 6 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. 7 But reject profane and old wives' fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness. 8 For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come.


This is what I believe.


Love, Kelli

 

[tim-from-pa]

Read I Timothy 4:1-8 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. 6 If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. 7 But reject profane and old wives' fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness. 8 For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come.


This is what I believe.


Love, Kelli

Good scripture Kelli. And this includes a good, grilled juicy burger with lots of veggie toppings is one of my favorite summer foods. I definitely receive it with thanksgiving!

The diet and exercisoholic dictocrats would rather we cut that from our diets. Of course. Anything pleasant, good and all-American they detest. :yes

 

[Kellig]

I am afraid that we Christians have followed the world into thinking that what our bodies look like are important. Our bodies are important, only because they house our spirits. If you are physically exercising more consistently than you are spending alone time... I mean one on one time, with Jesus, don't even try to tell me what is healthy. Physical exercise profits a little... that’s all... a little. If you are all caught up in what you eat and what you look like, you need to pray, to make sure you are on track. I challenge you to find Scripture in the New Testament that places as much importance on nutrition as we do these days.


It seems like some people treat what they eat like a religion. They feel righteous if they don't eat carbs/too many calories/meat/etc..... and unrighteous if they slip. I think we all need to rethink this dieting thing.

 

[tim-from-pa]

It seems like some people treat what they eat like a religion. They feel righteous if they don't eat carbs/too many calories/meat/etc..... and unrighteous if they slip. I think we all need to rethink this dieting thing.

Well, let me tell you something here. Some of us, at least I do, state what I say because I'm actually rebelling against what I call the pseudo-health craze which usually boils down to don't eat this or don't eat that and they feel self righteous bout it. Then they take things that are good and call them bad, they substitute it with something else (such as a carbohydrate sugar base and call it good). Make no mistake. If we put crap in, we will get crappy health out.

However, the war I am fighting is that what they tell you is "good" and "healthy" is really crap, either that or lacking nutrients.

If you are OK with what you eat, then I say go for it. No condemnation here. And that should manifest itself with not much need for a doctor, either, as frequent visits indicate something else is wrong and perhaps something wrong is put into (or something good withheld) from the body. And again, my gripe is that "what they tell you to put in" or again "What they tell you to withhold" is a Luciferian doctrine aimed at keeping people sick, not healthy.

From the spiritual end, with God's Spirit in a person tends to radiate health and I secretly believe for that reason that what we eat is a tad more forgiving in that sense, but there are still limits. One obviously would not eat rat poison as that is toxic, but that's exactly what they do to you. We are merely saying replace that rat poison with something better, and scriptural as a person in the Spirit will emulate the spirit of the law. However, I understand that dietary laws are not required any longer, because that was a ceremonial aspect of the law, not a morality issue. However, one will probably be healthier if they ate the biblical way. Does one get healthy on boxed cereal, canned food and low-fat yogurt loaded with artificial sweetner, or does one stay healthy eating bible foods such as meats, grains, figs, olives, nuts and the like? That's all I'm saying, or at least get some of that in one's diet.

 

[Free]

Our bodies are important, only because they house our spirits.

This is incorrect. Our bodies are important because they are God's good creation and will be redeemed. They are also the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Physical exercise profits a little... that’s all... a little.

I disagree with this as well. Exercise physically profits man a lot. How can we do the work of God if we are too overweight, too lethargic, too sickly?

 

[tim-from-pa]

I disagree with this as well. Exercise physically profits man a lot. How can we do the work of God if we are too overweight, too lethargic, too sickly?

For the record, I believe one of the pseudo-health crazes going around is the more you exercise, the better. A few minutes of walking or good, outdoor work in the country where I live I consider exercise in my eyes.

If one likes jogging for example, fine, but there are those out there who looks down on those who don't. But what do I see in joggers? More knee injuries and a lot simply dropping over dead these days more than I ever noticed before (probably in part from that "low sodium" diet that's supposed to be so healthy). And they don't certainly live any longer.

Now there may be need to condition the heart sometime, and I say that's OK, but man, don't overdo something we were not cut out to do.

For example, my "exercise" today consisted of moving around like I always do by, 1) pushing my weed-whacker mower around the yard (worked up a good sweat, although in part because I have to wear long clothes to do that), 2) cleaned the kid's car out so there is moving and lifting. and 3) paddled around in the pool for awhile. Not only does that help loosen sore muscles, but also cooled this ol' man down. On similar days, I move things about, lift, take the stairs up and down and up and down (e.g. cleaning house) and/or I may at times climb my big hill. You get the idea. I find it just as much, if not more so, of a workout than walking in circles around the park a few times. Although I can do that, too, but I usually reserve that for the autumn.

Exercise is considered in my eyes a resource depleter of the body as are chemicals, pollutants, and other such things. Nutrients are resource enhancers. Exercise tells the body there is more "need" e.g. cardiovascular types, but it will do the body more harm than good if there is not enough nutrients to then build up the heart that the exercise signaled the body that needs to be done.

There used to be a book out in the 80's I remember called "life extension" or something to that effect. The couple took meganutrients and all it took to signal the body for more muscle mass was 30 seconds of exercise a day and they had picture of them with big muscles with very little exercise. It's more important to enhance one's nutrition (and that goes spiritually as well) than to deplete it. Exercise is the physical equivalent of a spiritual trial or testing, but it's the nutrition that builds up and makes the body stronger.

 

[Kellig]

This is incorrect. Our bodies are important because they are God's good creation and will be redeemed. They are also the temple of the Holy Spirit.


I disagree with this as well. Exercise physically profits man a lot. How can we do the work of God if we are too overweight, too lethargic, too sickly?

Hey, I didn't say it, God did. I think we need to get our minds off of what we look like and feel like, and get busy doing what God put us here to do, Your ministry. You were placed in this generation for a purpose. If you are actively seeking you ministry, you will get your mind off of food, calories, ie your body... If you body is as important as your spirit, Jesus, would never have said if your eye causes you to sin pluck it out. Basically that's what He was saying. We need to stop worrying so much about our bodies and start worrying about our spirit. Our bodies are the only part of us that is not eternal! Satan makes it so important, because it's the least important thing that makes you, "YOU"

, Hebrews 13:8-9 (NKJV) 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

Yesterday, today, and forever. Don't you just love all these Scriptures that deal with diet rules? One says "In Latter times, and the other says "yesterday, today, and forever". It's almost like God knew that the focus of our time would be on what we look like and what we eat. Our life expectancy is longer that it ever has been, and a lot of that has to do with processed foods being readily available.

Don't listen to the fear mongers who are making millions in the diet industry. Go to the Word for your answers.

Satan tries to get our minds off of what is really important, and that is doing what you God put you here to do.

What Jesus said 2 thousand years ago applies for us today.

Love, Kelli

 

[Free]

For the record, I believe one of the pseudo-health crazes going around is the more you exercise, the better. A few minutes of walking or good, outdoor work in the country where I live I consider exercise in my eyes.

I agree, for the most part, but it would depend on the type of exercise. I think that variety is key, including, but not limited to, manual labor and walking. I certainly think that there can be too much of a good thing. One Tylenol is works good so twenty must work better...

If one likes jogging for example, fine, but there are those out there who looks down on those who don't. But what do I see in joggers? More knee injuries and a lot simply dropping over dead these days more than I ever noticed before (probably in part from that "low sodium" diet that's supposed to be so healthy). And they don't certainly live any longer.

Now there may be need to condition the heart sometime, and I say that's OK, but man, don't overdo something we were not cut out to do.

Well, this depends on what were "cut out to do." Personally, I'm not so sure but I do think that we weren't meant to sit at a desk all day and that those who do, such as myself, need to get more exercise than those who do manual labor or just spend more time on their feet.

For example, my "exercise" today consisted of moving around like I always do by, 1) pushing my weed-whacker mower around the yard (worked up a good sweat, although in part because I have to wear long clothes to do that), 2) cleaned the kid's car out so there is moving and lifting. and 3) paddled around in the pool for awhile. Not only does that help loosen sore muscles, but also cooled this ol' man down. On similar days, I move things about, lift, take the stairs up and down and up and down (e.g. cleaning house) and/or I may at times climb my big hill. You get the idea. I find it just as much, if not more so, of a workout than walking in circles around the park a few times. Although I can do that, too, but I usually reserve that for the autumn.

And, of course, the amount and type of exercise will be dependent on one's age, physical shape and any physical ailments, etc. In everyone's case though, something is much better than nothing.

Exercise is considered in my eyes a resource depleter of the body as are chemicals, pollutants, and other such things. Nutrients are resource enhancers. Exercise tells the body there is more "need" e.g. cardiovascular types, but it will do the body more harm than good if there is not enough nutrients to then build up the heart that the exercise signaled the body that needs to be done.

Not just your eyes. I'm pretty sure it's proven that those who exercise need to adjust their diet and even use supplements, depending on the level and type of exercise. If not, the body will use itself as fuel or protein for rebuilding, having detrimental effects on health.

There used to be a book out in the 80's I remember called "life extension" or something to that effect. The couple took meganutrients and all it took to signal the body for more muscle mass was 30 seconds of exercise a day and they had picture of them with big muscles with very little exercise. It's more important to enhance one's nutrition (and that goes spiritually as well) than to deplete it. Exercise is the physical equivalent of a spiritual trial or testing, but it's the nutrition that builds up and makes the body stronger.

That would be an interesting book. Proper nutrition and rest are key to health, alongside of proper exercise. I often use exercise as a metaphor for the spiritual life as the two have much in common. But more than that, I think one can be used to enhance the other.

 

[Free]

Hey, I didn't say it, God did.

1Ti 4:7 Have nothing to do with godless myths and old wives' tales; rather, train yourself to be godly.
1Ti 4:8 For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come. (NIV)

I believe that in the context, Paul is saying that physical exercise profits little for eternal life compared to training in godliness. Note that this does not mean Paul says not to exercise or that it isn't of great value for this life, he is merely comparing to training in godliness, which is superior. It seems to me that Paul thinks somewhat highly of physical training as this isn't the only exercise metaphor he uses.

I think we need to get our minds off of what we look like and feel like, and get busy doing what God put us here to do, Your ministry. You were placed in this generation for a purpose. If you are actively seeking you ministry, you will get your mind off of food, calories, ie your body... If you body is as important as your spirit, Jesus, would never have said if your eye causes you to sin pluck it out. Basically that's what He was saying.

Well, not really. Jesus was pointing out the severity of sin and the utter necessity of doing away with it.

We need to stop worrying so much about our bodies and start worrying about our spirit. Our bodies are the only part of us that is not eternal! Satan makes it so important, because it's the least important thing that makes you, "YOU"

I do not think that such a distinction should necessarily be made. Our bodies are very important, for the reasons I gave earlier. We are to be good stewards of all that is given to us and honor God with our bodies. And while our bodies are corruptible, they will put on immortality. We will live forever in our bodies, albeit glorified bodies.

There seems to be this idea that has been around for quite some time in the church that everything physical that exists is of little concern. The main concern is to be our souls and winning souls; everything spiritual. But this is actually approaching Gnosticism, which teaches that everything physical is evil and only the spiritual is good. But that clearly is not what Scripture teaches. And it also teaches that God's plan of redeeming all of Creation began with the resurrection of Christ. The earth and our bodies will eventually be redeemed, which is why we need to have concern for both of them now.

, Hebrews 13:8-9 (NKJV) 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

Yesterday, today, and forever. Don't you just love all these Scriptures that deal with diet rules? One says "In Latter times, and the other says "yesterday, today, and forever". It's almost like God knew that the focus of our time would be on what we look like and what we eat.

I would have to study the passage a bit more but it appears the writer of Hebrews is contrasting "the heart [being] established by grace" with those trying to "establish the heart" through means of the Jewish sacrificial system. But this most certainly isn't a "diet rule."

Our life expectancy is longer that it ever has been, and a lot of that has to do with processed foods being readily available.

Actually, I would disagree. Processed foods are one of the worst things we can eat and most likely have nothing to do with longevity. Advances in science, health care, physiology and nutrition are most likely.

Don't listen to the fear mongers who are making millions in the diet industry. Go to the Word for your answers.

Satan tries to get our minds off of what is really important, and that is doing what you God put you here to do.

What Jesus said 2 thousand years ago applies for us today.

Love, Kelli

I agree that there is fear mongering going on. After all, fear is a great motivator to get people to open their wallets. However, there is truth in there. Physical exercise is important and I think that a case can be made that it is among those things which we are to do while doing what God put us here to do.

 

[Kellig]

Originally Posted by Kellig
Our life expectancy is longer that it ever has been, and a lot of that has to do with processed foods being readily available.

Actually, I would disagree. Processed foods are one of the worst things we can eat and most likely have nothing to do with longevity. Advances in science, health care, physiology and nutrition are most likely.

You are saying a lot, but not really backing it up. You are missing the point of what I was saying. I used to be a habitual dieter. I used to idolize thinness, and maybe that's not your problem, and that's why you are not getting what I am saying... OR, maybe you do idolize the shape of your body, and that's why you are trying to avoid the point I am trying to make... But that is between you and God.

Love, Kelli

 

[tim-from-pa]

You are saying a lot, but not really backing it up. You are missing the point of what I was saying. I used to be a habitual dieter. I used to idolize thinness, and maybe that's not your problem, and that's why you are not getting what I am saying... OR, maybe you do idolize the shape of your body, and that's why you are trying to avoid the point I am trying to make... But that is between you and God.

Love, Kelli

Hey Kelli, just a side note here. You sound to be frustrated and given up. Just so that you know, I'm probably a lot fatter than you are. Yet I take all these vitamins and eat the right foods, but probably too much of everything. That's my problem --- meganutrients. But I know the feeling that "thin is in" and associated with health. That's another myth I don't believe as I don't believe that 1) saturate fats are bad 2) cholesterol is bad 3) salt is bad and I can go on and on. This is another one of those pseudo-health crazes.

Back in the old days maybe 35 years ago when I read rodale books, doctors would scoff at health ideas, and vitamins, and so forth. But the people started seeing the truth in getting back to natural, better nutrition and less on drugs. So, I noticed lately that the medical and pharmaceutical world joined the bandwagon and replaced some of their medical philosophy with similar sounding health advice so that people would grab a hold of it. But then they always add the disclaimer, "But when diet and exercise don't help, then take......" and they proceed to condition people to think they "need" drugs. Of course if you notice like I have that all the numbers were dummied down so that nobody can pass any longer so they can drug them up. In addition, they dispense all sorts of health myths such as the list I stated above, promote excessive exercisoholic behavior, and otherwise have a "denial" philosophy "can't have this" "can't have that" but tell you very little of what you can eat.

I would say that just to make sure you're getting all your nutrients regardless of what you think (and anyone else thinks) you should look like. If you do the right thing, then the weight your body holds is normal for you.

I know because I had many cats over the years. When they are young, they are thin and frisky like a teenager human. As they age, they gain weight ---- some gain more than others on the SAME diet I feed them all. Some cats are lean, others are downright tubby, but they are all well nourished since they are never sick. Then as they age, they get skinny again just like an old man or woman. Cats don't overeat and have emotional issues that humans do. So if they "eat only when they are hungry" and some get fat, then one has to assume it's in their genes. Some people and animals have more fat cells. But hey, without that, vitamin A, D and E would not work in your body as they need fat to work. Fat is not an enemy, and in the Victorian days was associated with health.

 

[Kellig]

Actually, I haven't given up. I have written a book on the subject. Like I said I was a habitual dieter, and I worshiped being thin. My desire to be thin overwhelmed every other thought. I had been on so many diets and had so many books about dieting, I think I could have had a degree, I had studied it so much. I finally asked God what I should do, and He answered me. He gave me this scripture.

[FONT=&quot]Hebrews 13:8-9[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

It was then I realized that it was not going to be by will power, but by Grace power. So I set out on a "journey" to figure out how to become established by grace. That was almost 12 years ago... God has shown me some amazing things...


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[Lukas]

Eat only whole, unprocessed foods. Avoid processed foods. There are mainly two reasons for that. The first is, that the processed foods, contain many chemicals and aditives, which are harmful to the human body and are toxical. The second reason is that there are many vital and important nutrients, remov

 

[Lukas]

It was then I realized that it was not going to be by will power, but by Grace power. So I set out on a "journey" to figure out how to become established by grace. That was almost 12 years ago... God has shown me some amazing things...