help me please

[Tpriebe]

I agree
Her own mother told me one regret is doing too much when they were younger, cuz that’s now what my wife wants/saw, made her choke up a bit

That would be your best argument IMO. Without knowing the specific situation, I do know that churches will devour a person’s time if they are faithful, with little to no regard for how so much ministry will affect their families and marriages. So I would use this as my main argument. It’s quite common actually.

 

[for_his_glory]

I understand we are new creations in Christ after we receive him. All of what you said makes sense and I know. But it seems whoever has read my message doesn’t or misses the part where, the part I’m most worried/concerned about, there is the active sinning, sexual immorality, and lying some people in the church, all while saying yes I’m in Christ and Christ is in me. It’s complete nonsense. There’s handfuls of verses that say you can’t have both God and earthy flesh, actively living and practicing seen means you don’t know Christ.
And because this wasn’t dealt with earlier or found out, she’s continued to move up in positions, offering advice and giving discipline on items when she herself didn’t listen to her own advice and received no discipline. Working hand in hand with the pastor, worship team, youth.
Like, how much trust would be broken between her and certain church people if they’d find out now. Her own parents.
I’m worried about sanctification and just that her career is built on a lie. She would have surely been her Asked to step down from her pastor if this had come to light long ago.

Can you explain what you mean by her sexual immorality so I can understand this better?

 

[Tpriebe]

Can you explain what you mean by her sexual immorality so I can understand this better?

Sex outside of marriage, which isn’t the issue in itself, as I did that as well and we dealt with that together. But looking back I don’t even know if I was a Christian back then from how I lived my life.

 

[for_his_glory]

Sex outside of marriage, which isn’t the issue in itself, as I did that as well and we dealt with that together. But looking back I don’t even know if I was a Christian back then from how I lived my life.

The past is the past as the both of you are new creations in Christ in whom remembers your past no more. You and your wife and children all need a new beginning prioritizing everything in your lives to have a happy flowing family unit of love and trust. This is why the two of you need to sit and talk this all out as you both resolve all things with Christ being the center of your marriage.

 

[Tpriebe]

The past is the past as the both of you are new creations in Christ in whom remembers your past no more. You and your wife and children all need a new beginning prioritizing everything in your lives to have a happy flowing family unit of love and trust. This is why the two of you need to sit and talk this all out as you both resolve all things with Christ being the center of your marriage.

That’s the problem. Being a new creation in Christ means not being of the world, and having a Christlike character. Which neither of us demonstrated in our mid 23-30 age. I know God forgives sins. But it seems most people don’t think sins have consequences, pretty much today’s mindset, I’ll sin, all I have to do is ask God to forgive men not true repentance… if sins don’t have consequences, then why are there qualifications for positions? Why does it matter if we sin or not. The bible speaks quite openly about this. But no one seems to actually think so it’s true or take it to heart. This isn’t a “she sinned/I sinned” it’s a how she/we sinned AND the quality of our character that we are supposed to have while doing these sins. Even actively practicing them. What happened in the past can still hurt people today if people were to find out. Which id never do.
this is about quality of character and sanctification involving other people/church

 

[for_his_glory]

That’s the problem. Being a new creation in Christ means not being of the world, and having a Christlike character. Which neither of us demonstrated in our mid 23-30 age. I know God forgives sins. But it seems most people don’t think sins have consequences, pretty much today’s mindset, I’ll sin, all I have to do is ask God to forgive men not true repentance… if sins don’t have consequences, then why are there qualifications for positions? Why does it matter if we sin or not. The bible speaks quite openly about this. But no one seems to actually think so it’s true or take it to heart. This isn’t a “she sinned/I sinned” it’s a how she/we sinned AND the quality of our character that we are supposed to have while doing these sins. Even actively practicing them. What happened in the past can still hurt people today if people were to find out. Which id never do.
this is about quality of character and sanctification involving other people/church

If God has truly forgiven your past sins then it does not matter what others hold on to of your past. It's when they see a change in us as living our life for the Lord as we allow the light of Christ shine through us that others will see we are no longer that person we use to be.

Now if we continue in willfully sinning after knowing truth then we will pay the consequences for doing so, not by man, but by God's righteous judgement.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

 

[Tpriebe]

If God has truly forgiven your past sins then it does not matter what others hold on to of your past. It's when they see a change in us as living our life for the Lord as we allow the light of Christ shine through us that others will see we are no longer that person we use to be.

Now if we continue in willfully sinning after knowing truth then we will pay the consequences for doing so, not by man, but by God's righteous judgement.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Yah I agree with most of what you said, and it make sense. Guess it’s just hard to explain through these messages haha.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yah I agree with most of what you said, and it make sense. Guess it’s just hard to explain through these messages haha.

It's called putting the cross before us and the world behind us as we live for the Lord in obedience to His will for us never looking back.

Mark 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mark 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

 

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Tpriebe quote- "very soon im going to have a conversation with her about her stepping down, and how i dont support her fully"
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She'll then say you're a pawn of Satan trying to pull her down, and your marriage will last about 5 more minutes, your choice..

 

[Tpriebe]

It's called putting the cross before us and the world behind us as we live for the Lord in obedience to His will for us never looking back.

Mark 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mark 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Mark 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mark 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Amen I agree!

 

[Tpriebe]

Hahahah no no, not that far

 

[GodsGrace]

I’d rather have her take over for her mother doing kids church, as she is getting more unhealthy and more tired each year.
My wife has expressed interested in taking it over, but not yet

Hi Tpriebe
I'm not going to give any advice but I'd like to tell you that my brother was in your exact same predicament many years ago...he and his wife are about 65 and retired now.

§She was too involved in church and ignored the home. He had to do a lot and even in the raising of their only daughter (who is 32 now).

She argued that she was doing this for God and never was able to cut down. (my brother went to the same church).

The family is also a work for God...but some women do not seem to realize this.

End of story?

She has come to realize that she was wrong --- she's apologized to him and stated how patient he was.

A little late....too bad she didn't realize it sooner - it caused a lot of problems which I won't get into.

Maybe if your wife realized how much her family need her?
Maybe less church activities and more family?

Everyone will have a different solution....
§God bless you.