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Horrifying Ends

humble soul

humble soul

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I sometimes wonder how I would go , if kidnapped and tortured to death.
Sorry, this not a nice topic, but hopefully worth contemplating in the hope that I would feel God's presence to help me cope.
I really feel for victims in these situations. They have to suffer, while someone dies peacefully in their sleep. Doesn't seem fair. Anyway.
You know, I would be utterly terrified. Intimidation and verbal threats would just make me spiral into a cowering mess.
Would I really reach out to God? Well I would have no choice. Interestingly so called atheists , may renege on their unbelief and say a prayer too.
The prospect of being bludgeoned or stabbed to death, would seriously affect my mental state. I may go into shock. Who knows.
I raise this topic, because I would hope that I act bravely and with dignity, though the reality would surely test. Some people are cut out for courage. I am not one of them. I pray that I would pray. Help me face the unfaceable. Give me strength. Reassure me that this horrifying end has meaning. Help me understand one day.
 
I am right with you Humble. I have had people tell me I am brave, but I am not at all brave. I have those worries you talk of. My prayers are often asking God that I don't let Him down and that He will be with me. I believe The Holy Spirit would take us over and work through us with strength and courage.
 
The flesh is weak, but the Spirit is strong. It's so easy to say I have courage and can withstand anything, but when it comes down to it being physically tortured for your witness and testifying of Christ He will see us through it if we keep our focus on Him and our eternal life with Him. He will not stop it from happening as this will, would be, the greatest test of faith. All we can hope is that with our dying breath the name of the Lord will be praised.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
 
What about that group of 25 Vietnamese who suffocated in a truck, on arrival in the UK? Victims of human trafficking.
Imagine their last hours of life. Worse than the Holocaust.
 
for_his_glory said:
The flesh is weak, but the Spirit is strong. It's so easy to say I have courage and can withstand anything, but when it comes down to it being physically tortured for your witness and testifying of Christ He will see us through it if we keep our focus on Him and our eternal life with Him. He will not stop it from happening as this will, would be, the greatest test of faith. All we can hope is that with our dying breath the name of the Lord will be praised.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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I've had to stay focused on him to make it through.
It's not easy doing on your own
Yes it hard friends
It's not easy doing on your own
 
Tessa said:
Too true. They died on the way here. They did it to their own.
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People shouting open boarders and anyone is welcome in the country then people risk there life in boats on dangerous waters or over harsh terrain to enter a country and some die on the way and those who encourage them think they are not responsible.

Then there is the responsible people who say there is boarder security and enter legally only and take the safer path.
 
The uk does say to take the legal path. It is against the law to employ illegal immigrants . Some manage to get here. They are told lies in their own country not here
 
Tessa said:
The uk does say to take the legal path. It is against the law to employ illegal immigrants . Some manage to get here. They are told lies in their own country not here
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How is the UK going?. Are you allowed to celebrate Christmas?
 
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The UK Is in trouble with the new strain of virus. Worse than when it first came. We are allowed our bible. My daughter is in my bible and very elderly friend. 3 households are allowed to meet for one day on Christmas Day.
Many people still dying.
It is having bad effects on imports exports.
Glad I have an apple tree in the garden :lol
 
Tessa said:
The UK Is in trouble with the new strain of virus. Worse than when it first came. We are allowed our bible. My daughter is in my bible and very elderly friend. 3 households are allowed to meet for one day on Christmas Day.
Many people still dying.
It is having bad effects on imports exports.
Glad I have an apple tree in the garden :lol
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Yeah I saw France refusing imports from the UK. Absolute chaos.
 
Foxes Book of Martyrs is a good book to read and see the way past Christians have acted under torture and death. And there are others.

If one feels like they don't have that assurance or power of the Holy Spirit that these past martyrs did, just remember, neither did they till the time came. God gives what we need when we need it. I believe (Matt. 10:19) could be applied here.

It is natural to be afraid of falling into the hands of men who have your death as their goal. David feared it. (1 Sam. 21:10-15) (2 Sam. 24:13-15)

So, whether death by man, or by being told of some irreversible disease you only have a few days to live, I would want to remind myself, I cannot change it. If I can't change it, what good is it to go out in a miserable display of begging for my life? If I can't change it, why not at least be a testimony of how to die as a Christian.

Quantrill
 
Rollo Tamasi said:
I've had to stay focused on him to make it through.
It's not easy doing on your own
Yes it hard friends
It's not easy doing on your own
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It is hard at times and we have to keep our focus on the Lord to see us through. We really do not know how much we need Him until we are faced with adversities.
 
Quantrill said:
Foxes Book of Martyrs is a good book to read and see the way past Christians have acted under torture and death. And there are others.

If one feels like they don't have that assurance or power of the Holy Spirit that these past martyrs did, just remember, neither did they till the time came. God gives what we need when we need it. I believe (Matt. 10:19) could be applied here.

It is natural to be afraid of falling into the hands of men who have your death as their goal. David feared it. (1 Sam. 21:10-15) (2 Sam. 24:13-15)

So, whether death by man, or by being told of some irreversible disease you only have a few days to live, I would want to remind myself, I cannot change it. If I can't change it, what good is it to go out in a miserable display of begging for my life? If I can't change it, why not at least be a testimony of how to die as a Christian.

Quantrill
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Quantrill
Thank you for such a great post.
Full of truth and encouragement.
 
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