[_ Old Earth _] How can a real christian chose to believe evoultuion

[Guest]

And what do any of those links have to do with evolution being an ancient pagan religion anyways?

:smt041 Read them carefully!

I've read them carefully, and they are completely irrelevant information and do not talk about evolution being ancient paganism.

And, as for your AiG and IRC links, I have told you and will tell you again-- THEY ARE NON-RELIABLE INFORMATION SOURCES. Can you comprehend what I am writing?

:smt041 What a LIAR,you are. You need to go back again,and it's
your beloved Darwin who believed women were inferior,the big fat
sexist that he was. I hope it's true that he repented and gave his life to
God just before he died.
Those facts about Darwin's Grandfather can and have been proven.
Also,what drove your silly self to come to a christian forum to debate
christians and not accept their material. I have shown you that even
non-christians don't believe in your religion,and you still stick your
head in the sand. MY SOURCES ARE VERY RELIABLE!!!
YOU HATE TRUTH!!!!

 

[keebs]

If you think your resources are reliable, provide case studies and the science to prove it. And just because Darwin was a sexist does not mean his theory is sexist. Example: If you can prove 1+1=2, you are right, whether you're a sexist, murderer, rapist, or anything else.

 

[Guest]

If you think your resources are reliable, provide case studies and the science to prove it. And just because Darwin was a sexist does not mean his theory is sexist. Example: If you can prove 1+1=2, you are right, whether you're a sexist, murderer, rapist, or anything else.

:smt035 They have,and they are easy to locate on the sites.
You are not into science,and neither is evolution. Your religion is
pagan and it's based on vain philosophies of man and magic.
Yes,Darwins ideas were sexist. None of the TOE has ever been
proven right,not once,though there have been several hoax's
they tried to claim. Life resulting from non-life has not ever been
seen anywhere by mankind.
A true atheist would not believe in Darwin. Darwin just took old age
and repackaged it into new age. He wasn't even the first person who
ever tried to do that.
http://www.creationists.org/evolutionisreligion.html

 

[keebs]

Life resulting from non-life has not ever been
seen anywhere by mankind.

This isn't part of the theory of evolution. What you are talking about is abiogenesis...they are two different things. Learn the facts.

A true atheist would not believe in Darwin.

Why not?

 

[goliwog man]

proof? Evolution as no emphirical evidence, im yet to see anything enlightning from evolution.

We have proof yet you constantly ignore it.
1) the church. Have you been to church if you have youll find a host of eye witnessess that have felt christ. And God hath set some in the church first apostals secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers after that miracles, then gifts of healing, helps, government, diversities of tounges. 1 cor 12v28

All these are forms of witnesses To try the proff of all of these you must Go to a church and try each and everyone. Listen to what God has to say to you via prophets

e.g http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... &start=120

Try the teachers see if what they say doesnt make sense and so on down the list.
2)In the Bible there are four testimonies The gospel of matthew mark luke and john and then after that theres Lukes account of the acts of the apostal. Read at least some of this material there are 5 testimonies

3) then theres web sites such as http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/Mansproof.html
Make sure you no what you are rejecting or approving

 

[Asimov]

proof? Evolution as no emphirical evidence, im yet to see anything enlightning from evolution.

Fossils are empirical evidence. Genetics are empirical evidence.

We have proof yet you constantly ignore it.
1) the church. Have you been to church if you have youll find a host of eye witnessess that have felt christ. And God hath set some in the church first apostals secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers after that miracles, then gifts of healing, helps, government, diversities of tounges.

Nope, feelings of christ isn't proof. Miracles...never seen any, gifts of healing? they frequently kill and harm rather than heal, tongues? have never seen anyone speak in tongues, nor is it reputable.

2)In the Bible there are four testimonies The gospel of matthew mark luke and john and then after that theres Lukes account of the acts of the apostal. Read at least some of this material there are 5 testimonies

These accounts frequently contradict one another and are not harmonious.

[quote:e6fcf]3) then theres web sites such as http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/Mansproof.html
Make sure you no what you are rejecting or approving

[/quote:e6fcf]

oh, I've seen these arguments, they are nothing more than fallacies, and misapplied information.

 

[Guest]

Life resulting from non-life has not ever been
seen anywhere by mankind.

This isn't part of the theory of evolution. What you are talking about is abiogenesis...they are two different things. Learn the facts.

A true atheist would not believe in Darwin.

Why not?

8-) Because thats following the words and advise from a man,
and it's no different than religion. Evolution claims many things,and
yes it does say you can get life from non-life materials.
Call it what you wish,you claim it. Darwin was religious and he was
educated in theology,so what makes you believe that he didn't know
that evolution was founded in ancient pagan religions?

 

[Guest]

Fossils are empirical evidence. Genetics are empirical evidence.

[oh, I've seen these arguments, they are nothing more than fallacies, and misapplied information.

:smt018 Fossils do not support TOE,and every species that a fossil
ever showed we still have today. All the fossils you believe in as evidence
can be placed in one box. You have no proof of any animals in the change
from animal to human. You have not seen an animal in a transitional state
of becoming a human,and that should be happening if it were true,but it's
not true. DNA supports God and thats all,amen.
The double helix design is amazing. It has a design because it has a
designer! DNA evidence helps people who are innocent get out of
prison,and it helps to put the guilty behind bars. That cannot be random!

 

[Guest]

2)In the Bible there are four testimonies The gospel of matthew mark luke and john and then after that theres Lukes account of the acts of the apostal. Read at least some of this material there are 5 testimonies

These accounts frequently contradict one another and are not harmonious.

:smt024 You are wrong again! Those Gospels do support each
other and very strongly,amen. If you had even taken the time to study
them very well,you'd know that.
Different writer's yet all telling the same story from their own view point.
The story's match.

 

[goliwog man]

These accounts frequently contradict one another and are not harmonious.

Have you read them? Prove that there not harmonious

Nope, feelings of christ isn't proof. Miracles...never seen any, gifts of healing? they frequently kill and harm rather than heal, tongues? have never seen anyone speak in tongues, nor is it reputable.

Your scared arent you. Your afraid that God could be real, youll never admit it though. Its time you dropped the pride And tried Gods proof for your self

Fossils are empirical evidence. Genetics are empirical evidence.

It depends on how you interpret them we no very little aboout fossil except that there dead. Its not like they have a tag on them saying i died 477 years ago.

 

[Asimov]

Have you read them? Prove that there not harmonious

That's not for this thread, or this part of the forum. I can do it in a different forum if you like. I don't think I could prove that to you, as you already a priori think the bible is 100% true and not up to being fallible.

Your scared arent you. Your afraid that God could be real, youll never admit it though. Its time you dropped the pride And tried Gods proof for your self

Like I said, only God can know what'll convince me, so far he hasn't done a crack job of it. So no, it has nothing to do with fear, I don't care if God exists or not. And no, it has nothing to do with pride, if I was shown to be wrong, I would admit that I am wrong.

This has not happened yet.

It depends on how you interpret them we no very little aboout fossil except that there dead. Its not like they have a tag on them saying i died 477 years ago.

Well, I guess forensics is out the window, because all we can tell about a skeleton is that it died....darn, I guess all those murderers will get away now.

 

[goliwog man]

Just something I'll let you in on about God and christians.
God gives christians the email. Its the christians that cant read. :D If your think God should lift his act your wrong Its Gods children that are slack. And Its because we are human and never stop learning. You have to stop learning through others. Get your own fire started. Dont be afraid to call upon the name of the lord.

And the lord would say unto this day fear not when my children wrong you, be not as the hyporcyts that say they know all. For I am God the creator of the universe I made the great oceans and fishes of the see, I have created man In mine image unlike any other creature on earth, yet they turn there back they sink in there own way.

Be not as those who yell at bricks be not as those who love vainitnes. seek and ye shall find for I have supplied your every need I will never leave you nor forskae you For I am the lord your God. Thus saith the Lord

 

[keebs]

Blah, my imaginary elephant sends me emails too...the elephant has saith.

 

[goliwog man]

Blah, my imaginary elephant sends me emails too...the elephant has saith.

*gasps* Jokeingly: Is your elephant babar?

 

[Asimov]

Blah, my imaginary elephant sends me emails too...the elephant has saith.

*gasps* Jokeingly: Is your elephant babar?

Didn't you know goliwog, watching cartoons is immature.

 

[Vic C.]

Didn't you know goliwog, watching cartoons is immature.

Excuse me?

 

[Asimov]

Didn't you know goliwog, watching cartoons is immature.

Excuse me?

Oh, I guess you haven't been up to date on the forums. Read some of blueeyeliner's posts regarding cartoons....clearly they are only for immature adults who have no interest in God.... :roll:

 

[Vic C.]

Oh, I guess you haven't been up to date on the forums. Read some of blueeyeliner's posts regarding cartoons....clearly they are only for immature adults who have no interest in God.... :roll:

Hmm, guess I missed that. 8-)

.........................Blue ^......................Me ^............ :-D

JK, :wink:

 

[goliwog man]

Oh, I guess you haven't been up to date on the forums. Read some of blueeyeliner's posts regarding cartoons....clearly they are only for immature adults who have no interest in God....

WAT,
MY mums a cartoonist and therefore i take a fence. (* steels the front gate*)

There is nothing better for a man, then that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. ecc2v24 Therefore cartoons comes under and he should make his soul enjoy good

 

[Guest]

This is what I said about the cartoons. Those who watch
cartoons usually are not the ones up bragging that they are
superior in intelligence than others,and those who call themselves
intellectuals yet they watch movies like "Dumb and Dumbmer" cannot
expect to be taken seriously as intellectuals.
I did not say that all people who watch cartoons are ignorant,only those
who boast and claim to be intellects or superior to others.
Also,check out the role models these individuals have.