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How come in the bible God talks to all the prophets and people, but now you never here god talking to any modern day prophets?

Some athiest said it on his site and of course I love god, but what he said makes sense.. How come you never hear God tearing up places for sinners such as amsterdam, it's the new sodom and gomora...
 
When God "tore up" Sodom and Gomorrah, it was before Jesus came and died for all our sins. That is the only explanation we truly need.

As for prophets, if there are prophets, then no one is listening to them, or maybe any new prophets are afraid of being called crazy and put in a mental hospital. Maybe no one is listening to them because this is a skeptical world we live in. :angel:
 
ChristineES said:
When God "tore up" Sodom and Gomorrah, it was before Jesus came and died for all our sins. That is the only explanation we truly need.

As for prophets, if there are prophets, then no one is listening to them, or maybe any new prophets are afraid of being called crazy and put in a mental hospital. Maybe no one is listening to them because this is a skeptical world we live in. :angel:

See thats why I love christians ^
 
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Maku said:
How come in the bible God talks to all the prophets and people, but now you never here god talking to any modern day prophets?

Some athiest said it on his site and of course I love god, but what he said makes sense.. How come you never hear God tearing up places for sinners such as amsterdam, it's the new sodom and gomora...

Hello, Maku -

There is a theory about this, first brought out in the 1970s*. The idea is that people were not conscious until very recently in human evolution. "Conscious", as the theory uses the word, does not mean awake, alert or aware, but it has a more specialized meaning. According to the theory, people up until the time of the earliest civilizations did not experience themselves as agents with volition who could make decisions. They could think, speak, calculate, and perform many ordinary cognitive functions, but they had no center from which to make their own choices. Instead, voices in their heads told them what to do.

You have probably heard that we each have two brains (we usually think of them as being two halves, or hemispheres, of one brain). Several thousand years ago (says the theory) these two separate sections operated much more independently of each other, and communication between the two sides was not as easy as it is for us today. Ancient man had a very "bicameral" mind - two distinct units in his head.

The way in which the brain-half responsible for making decisions communicated with the half responsible for action was by means of a audible voice. The ancients heard voices in their heads, which was really the two hemispheres communicating with each other, telling the person what to do. That is why, in literature and stories dating back to about the time of Homer's Odyssey, the gods are very active - always meddling in human affairs and telling them how to behave.

Later, these two parts of the brain established better connections and began to function more as a single unit than as two distinct brains. Today (says this theory) when one half of the brain tells the other half what to do, you experience it as you yourself making a decision, not as a divine voice giving orders. The old bicameral mind has broken down, and we moderns do not hear voices in our heads so much as our ancestors.

There is a lot of historical and neurological evidence that makes this a fascinating theory. If you are interested, see below for a very readable book about it.

I would not discuss it with weak or immature Christians, lest it cause them to stumble. It calls into question the doctrine of scriptural innerency, and it causes one to entertain a natural explanation of some of the more "ungodly" utterances of old Yahweh.



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* Jaynes, Julian. The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1976.

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Heb 1:1 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
 
PotLuck said:
Heb 1:1 God who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;


whats that mean
 
That means that the Holy Spirit speaks to those that allow Christ to live within them. There is NO longer any need for individual prophets to communicate the will of God to people. They now have the intermediary Jesus Christ who has left His words and the Holy Spirit to EACH and EVERY ONE of us that chooses to listen.

And, if you will note. the prophets of the OT 'almost' exclusively spoke to a particular 'group' of people. Whether their own or those who enslaved them. Upon the birth of Christ, God's Son lived and dwelt among these people. Upon His death His words and teachings were left to EVERYONE that hears them, (hence, the reason that the Gospel will be published throughout the ENTIRE world before His return).

And if you 'need' a prophet, they are certainly easy enough to find. The James Jones' and David Koreshs' are prevalent among us.
 
Actually Maku, there are modern day prophets to whom God speaks to the same as he always has.
 
How come in the bible God talks to all the prophets and people, but now you never here god talking to any modern day prophets?

Ive talked to God.
 
God told me something once. (yes, i actually heard the words in an empty house with nothing on and nobody home... i checked)

He said "Faith and Prayer."

And I tell people... but you just wont find it on the news.
 
Maku said:
How come in the bible God talks to all the prophets and people, but now you never here god talking to any modern day prophets?

Some athiest said it on his site and of course I love god, but what he said makes sense.. How come you never hear God tearing up places for sinners such as amsterdam, it's the new sodom and gomora...

"Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.

-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787"
 
I agree with the post above. God still does talk to people. You just have to be still and listen.


Misty
 
I agree with the post above. God still does talk to people. You just have to be still and listen.


Misty
 
Maku said:
ChristineES said:
When God "tore up" Sodom and Gomorrah, it was before Jesus came and died for all our sins. That is the only explanation we truly need.

As for prophets, if there are prophets, then no one is listening to them, or maybe any new prophets are afraid of being called crazy and put in a mental hospital. Maybe no one is listening to them because this is a skeptical world we live in. :angel:

See thats why I love christians ^

I realized my answer was inadequate while I was writing it. I kept hoping that someone would come with a better one. :wink: :-D
 
See centenary celebrations of http://www.azusastreet100.net

Did anyone see Selwyn Hughes @ the centenary celebrations of the Welsh Revival this week?

Both were fulfilments of the Joel 2 promise of Latter Rain outpouring of the Holy Spirit, to empower this climax generation of all history to gather in the Final Harvest of souls before Jesus fulfils His promise to cut short this generation by the instant airlift Rapture rescue of all who love Him, before the worst time ever comes

Pentecost corresponds to the spring rains in Israel

The autumn/latter rain is a greater rain, to ripen the harvest

Acts never saw little kids being used to heal the sick & raise the dead in Jesus' mighty name

But recent years in Asia, Africa & Latin America have seen little kids being used by God as channels of His miracle power for all those things, inc raising the dead

The gifts of the Spirit were given to empower God's people to complete the Great Commission

& it ain't over yet!

The gifts were specifically to operate until the perfect comes & Jesus hasn't returned to wrap up this polluted planet & make the perfect, permanent new Heavens & New Earth of Revelation 21-22

Paul not only wished that all would speak in tongues, but said he would rather that all would prophesy

Prophesy simply means passing on God's messages to mankind

It is not exclusively predicting the future

It is often instructions for immediate use

Back to link useful thread...

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopi ... highlight=

God bless!

Ian
 
And what if God, being rich in mercy and grace, held back his wrath for the sake of ten or so righteous men in a place that many deem to be full of sinners.

And there are the righteous scattered throughout the earth. There are prophets - but not the ones who proclaim it themselves. There are pastors, evangelists, teachers and so on. Men of God - doing the work of God, sent not to the world but to those whom God has called to be His own. These are the ones about whom it is said, "how beautiful are the feet of him who brings good news"

And why would those who consider themselves to be doing the work of the Father want to start pulling up the tares? Remember the wheat that is growing alongside.
 
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