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How do we know the Bible is God's unique Word?

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MrVersatile48

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1 - Its amazing unity

Despite being penned by more than 40 authors, from over 19 different walks of life, over some 1,600 years, the Bibe is a consistent revelation from the beginning to the end, so that the 1st & last books of the Bible - Genesis & Revelation - dovetail perfectly, telling of what Milton called, 'Paradise Lost' & 'Paradise Regained' respectively

2 - Its amazing preservation

In spite of political & religious persecution, the Bible remains.

The Roman Emperor Diocletian, following an edict in AD 303, thought he had destroyed every hated Bible. He erected a column over the ashes of a burned Bible to celebrate his victory

25 years later, the new Emperor Constantine commissioned the production of 50 Bibles at the expense of the Government!

In the 18th century, noted French philosopher, Voltaire, forecast that, within a century, there would be no Bibles left on Earth

Ironically, 50 years after his death, the Geneva Bible Society used his old printing press, & his house - the Bible today is available in far more languages than any other book!

3 - its historical accuracy

Nelson Glueck, famous Jewish archaeologist, spoke of, "the almost incredibly accurate historical memory of the Bible, & particularly so when fortified by archaeological fact"

William F Albright, widely recognised as one of the great archaeologists, stated:-

"The extensive skepticism shown toward the Bible by important historical schools of the 18th & 19th centuries, certain phases of which still appear periodically, has been progressively discredited

"Discovery after discovery has established the accuracy of innumerable details, & has brought increased recognition to the value of the Bible as a source of history"

Sir William Ramsay, regarded as one of the greatest archaeologists ever, trained in mid-19th century historical skepticism, & so did not believe that the New Testament documents were historically reliable

However, his archaeological investigations drove him to see that his skepticism was unwarranted

More later

Must go!
 
SCIENTIFIC/PROPHETIC ACCURACY..

MrVersatile48 said:
1ST, TO COMPLETE SIR WILLIAM RAMSAY'S EXPERIENCE...

Sir William Ramsay, regarded as one of the greatest archaeologists ever, trained in mid-19th century historical skepticism, & so did not believe that the New Testament documents were historically reliable

However, his archaeological investigations drove him to see that his skepticism was unwarranted quote]

He had a profound change in attitude. Speaking of Luke, (who also wrote Acts), he said, he said, "Luke is a historian of the 1st rank..he should be placed along with the greatest of historians"

At many specific points, archaeology confirms the Bible's accuracy

There are many particulars where skeptics have questioned the Bible's accuracy - usually on the basis of there being no independent evidence - (the fallacy of arguing from silence) - only to find that further archaeological discoveries have unearthed evidence for the Bible account

The writers of classics, "Who Moved The Stone?" & both set out to disprove the Bible, & instead found firm faith in Christ!

4 - Its scientific accuracy

Some examples: that the Earth is round (Isaiah 40:22); that Earth is suspended in space without support (Job 26:7); that the stars are countless (Genesis 15:5)

Also - (references edited in later) - the hydrological cycle; sea currents; living things reproducing after their kind; many insights into health..hygeine..diet..the importance of blood...the 1st & 2nd laws of thermodynamics..& many other things

See http://www.christianforums.net/viewforum.php?f=19

5 - Its prophetic accuracy

The Bible states that the accurate foretelling of events is the province of God. God said:-

"I have foretold the former things from the beginning & they went out of My mouth; & I made them hear; I acted suddenly; & they came about...I declared it to you from the beginning. Before it happened, I revealed it to you" - Isaiah 48:3-5

See many examples in the End Times/Bible Prophecy Forum here

http://www.christianforums.net/viewforum.php?f=17

One searches in vain for one line of accurate prophecy in other religious books, but the Bible contains many specific prophecies

Campus Crusade For Christ's Josh McDowel, in his classics, "Evidence That Demands A Verdict" & "More Evidence That Demands A Verdict", documents 61 prophecies regarding Jesus alone - inc His place, time & manner of birth, His betrayal, manner of death & burial - all beyond human control

McDowell also thoroughly documents 12 detailed, specific prophecies regarding Tyre, Sidon, Samaria, Gaza & Ashkelon, Moab & Amnon, Ptera & Edom, Thebes & Memphis, Nineveh, Babylon, Chorazin-Bethsaida-Capernaum, Jerusalem & Israel

He shows how these prophecies were not 'post dictums' - (NOT written after the events)

I'm sure some of those will feature in the thread exposing the blinkered errors of Preterism (that foolishly denies Revelation has any prophecies about this climax generation of history that will see Christ return)

Back with link:-

http://www.christianforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=18203

The probability of all these things coming to pass by chance is effectively zero

Back in @ 2 hours, DV, @ the Bible's civilising influence, absolute honesty, & life-transforming message..
 
Please stop plagiarizing. Almost every post of yours is cut and past from another website, and the TOS of this site say that every time you do that, you need to link to the original source. Either use your own words and find your own thoughts, or link to the sites that your are spewing from.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/ar ... tence1.asp
 
"Infamy..they've all got it in 4 me!"

(Quick quote from UK comic actor Charles Hawtreyplaying Julius Caesar) :wink:

Anyone who clicks my name & then on 'find all posts by...' will know I use public PCs that are forever cutting me off B4 I can do final edit - inc links - & you'll see that no-one puts links in more regularly than I do 8-)

For proof of originality in much evidence too :roll:

Oh..

OK..
:oops:

I guess I'd best link to Poetry/Creative Writing Forum, where you'll see @ 4 of my highly acclaimed lyrics...

http://www.christianforums.net/viewforum.php?f=29 :multi:

I'd planned to add a kinda medley of Psalms 8, Psa 24 & Psa 29 today anyway... :D

Ian :fadein:
 
I would have to disagree.
1 - Its amazing unity

Despite being penned by more than 40 authors, from over 19 different walks of life, over some 1,600 years, the Bibe is a consistent revelation from the beginning to the end, so that the 1st & last books of the Bible - Genesis & Revelation - dovetail perfectly, telling of what Milton called, 'Paradise Lost' & 'Paradise Regained' respectively
A lot of the unity comes about because it was voted on to remove books that did not fit well. So get 200 books on a subject and reduce it down to a smaller number and you can get pretty good unity.

But the problem is that unity is not really agreed upon. For example, non-Christians typically see two different characters of God. In the OT, he is blood thristy tyrant that reigns anger and destruction everywhere. In the NT, He is forgiving and send Jesus to show peace. Also, many Jews find too many contradictions between the OT and NT to accept it. I could show a lot of these, but it would make this post too long.

2 - Its amazing preservation
It is very well preserved for a book, but not for a special book of God. I would expect that the book of Salvation from a being that cares and loves His creations to help preserve it better and maybe even translate it Himself to reduce confusion.

3 - its historical accuracy
There are several places where it is inaccurate. For example, it gets Nebuchadnezzar lineage wrong. Trying to reconcile the Exodus with known history results in inconsistent dating. The census of the New Testament did not appear to happen when or how it was described. No one outside the Bible documents Jesus that could have seen him. Those that documented other prophets never mention him.

4 - Its scientific accuracy

Some examples: that the Earth is round (Isaiah 40:22); that Earth is suspended in space without support (Job 26:7); that the stars are countless (Genesis 15:5)

Also - (references edited in later) - the hydrological cycle; sea currents; living things reproducing after their kind; many insights into health..hygeine..diet..the importance of blood...the 1st & 2nd laws of thermodynamics..& many other things
This is so shameful, that it whould make people wonder at the deception needed to promote these ideas. The Bible supports the idea that the Earth is flat and fixed. Isaiah 40:22 promoted a flat disk shaped Earth (circular is not a spherical). As for the Job reference, the Earth does not hang or is suspended. Also, if you want to believe this one, you must also believe in Job 26:13, were fair skies are causes by God's breath. Or God puts water in the clouds (this is against the hydrological cycle mentioned later). The Genesis reference to the countless stars. This is an observation that it is hard to count the stars, not some kind of scientific statement.

The other "scientific" stuff I looked at is observational stuff that is dressed up as a scientific statement. You can tell there was no science because the Bible did not teach anyone anything scientific that was not known at tthe time it was written.

5 - Its prophetic accuracy
From Aish.com:

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? The Bible says that he will:

A. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).

B. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).

C. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)

D. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world -- on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

The historical fact is that Jesus fulfilled none of these messianic prophecies.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming, but Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright, and no concept of a second coming exists.


The fulfilled prophesies are either prophies that were reported fulfilled by authors making stuff up or by writing of the events after the fact. Secular scholars typically see most of the Bible as being written later than Chrsistians believed.

Quath
 
Re: "Infamy..they've all got it in 4 me!"

MrVersatile48 said:
(Quick quote from UK comic actor Charles Hawtreyplaying Julius Caesar) :wink:

Anyone who clicks my name & then on 'find all posts by...' will know I use public PCs that are forever cutting me off B4 I can do final edit - inc links - & you'll see that no-one puts links in more regularly than I do 8-)

For proof of originality in much evidence too :roll:

Oh..

OK..
:oops:

I guess I'd best link to Poetry/Creative Writing Forum, where you'll see @ 4 of my highly acclaimed lyrics...

http://www.christianforums.net/viewforum.php?f=29 :multi:

I'd planned to add a kinda medley of Psalms 8, Psa 24 & Psa 29 today anyway... :D

Ian :fadein:
You post a lot of links like that one to various places on this forum. That doesn't change the fact that you fail to post the links to the original works which you are stealing and passing of on your own. I'm asking and advising you to stop---if you continue the TOS violation a moderator will eventually say something to you.
 
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