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How do you know if you have commited the unforgivable sin?

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I heard about the unforgivable sin in Matthew 12 and Mark 3, ever since I heard about it I have been thinking bad things about the Holy Spirit. I really want to get rid of the thoughts but its very difficult. Anyway, my question was have I committed the unforgivable sin? Am I condemned? Or is commiting the unforgivable sin something else. If it is, please explain. Thank you.
 
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giftofGod said:
I heard about the unforgivable sin in Matthew 12 and Mark 3, ever since I heard about it I have been thinking bad things about the Holy Spirit. I really want to get rid of the thoughts but its very difficult. Anyway, my question was have I committed the unforgivable sin? Am I condemned? Or is commiting the unforgivable sin something else. If it is, please explain. Thank you.

Hi giftofGod,

The enemy has a number of arrows in his quiver (fiery darts of the evil one) one of which is the unforgivable sin.

While the scriptures do teach that there is an unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit - exactly what that is is not specified. The scriptures also tell us that our consciences can accuse us or excuse us - so they have to be rightly instructed. So in view of all this:

Where do you think the thought arises from? What do you think is the source?

In Christ: stranger
 
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giftofGod said:
I heard about the unforgivable sin in Matthew 12 and Mark 3, ever since I heard about it I have been thinking bad things about the Holy Spirit. I really want to get rid of the thoughts but its very difficult. Anyway, my question was have I committed the unforgivable sin? Am I condemned? Or is commiting the unforgivable sin something else. If it is, please explain. Thank you.

I don't see any motive. What I see is induced suggestion to the mind. It's motivation through pride that plants the seeds of sin. I see no motive for your thoughts nor do I see any rebellion toward God.
It's like someone saying, "Don't think about your left foot." and all day thereafter your can't get your mind off your left foot. :-?
 
Rest assured you have not committed the unforgiveable sin. It is something completely different to a (bad) word or thought regarding the Holy Spirit.

But how could anyone actually think 'bad things' about the Holy Spirit. Perhaps understanding the nature of the thought would enable one to deal with it.
 
All I can add is that if you don't know if you committed the unforgivable, chances are that you did not commit it. To my way of thinking, no one could commit the unforgivable without knowing good and well that they'd done it.
 
I always interpreted it as REALLY REALLY bad Blaspheme. I am often told that because I am an Atheist, I am a sinner, and I need to repent, be born again, and change my ways, and I can still be accepted into heaven to walk with God. So, I am pretty sure you have to go far out of your way to hit this one. If you deliberately state and deny the complete existence, then.. maybe?
 
It's odd to me though. Some take God's name in vain, Jesus's name in vain, say there is no God, that Christ didn't exist, that God is anything but who He is, same for Jesus.... But little is said against the Holy Spirit. It's almost like it's an instinctive tabboo or something. I don't know of or heard any cuss phrases or words belittling the Holy Spirit, taken in vain or in any way being discredited as the Holy Spirit.

Just an observation.
 
giftofGod said:
I heard about the unforgivable sin in Matthew 12 and Mark 3, ever since I heard about it I have been thinking bad things about the Holy Spirit. I really want to get rid of the thoughts but its very difficult. Anyway, my question was have I committed the unforgivable sin? Am I condemned? Or is commiting the unforgivable sin something else. If it is, please explain. Thank you.
Please note the following scripture:

2 Corinthians 4

13 It is written: "I believed; therefore I have spoken."With that same spirit of faith we also believe and therefore speak,
14 because we know that the one who raised the Lord Jesus from the dead will also raise us with Jesus and present us with you in his presence.


As indicated above, the Holy Spirit is required for someone to have the inclination to have faith, and to actually have faith. Therefore if you are doing the above (i.e. having the inclination to have faith and having faith), you have not blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, since it is the Holy Spirit driving you to do the same. Remember, a person’s sins are forgiven by the person having faith (Luke 5:20, Ephesians 2:8-9). Therefore if a person has faith via the Holy Spirit, all of that person’s sins must be forgiven – since it’s God’s law that this take place. A person has only truly blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, when the Holy Spirit refuses to drive that person to have faith, and that person is left with no chance of obtaining forgiveness, because he cannot possibly have faith.

To blaspheme against the Holy Spirit to the extent that you can no longer be forgiven of your sins is not easy to do. It is a highly deliberate set of actions that you have to do repeatedly until you breach a certain threshold, which leads to the Holy Spirit no longer moving you to have faith.

Another thing to note: every wicked thought and deed originates from the carnal self within you. Therefore if you do have faith, any blasphemous thought you may have is not yours (they are those of the carnal self) and you aren’t held responsible for them. If you do not have faith, even though the blasphemous thoughts originate from your carnal self, they are considered yours because by default a person is one with his carnal self, and is responsible for the wickedness that originates from his carnal self. Even under these circumstances, do not worry too much about the thoughts you are having – try to think about something else, and remember, blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is not an easy thing to do.
 
unforgivable sin

One of my NT profs said that we can't commit the sin about which Jesus was speaking then. In the context there were people attributing Christ's miricales to Beelzebub.
 
Is it that God wont forgive you if you have commited the unforgivable sin? or is it that you refuse to be forgiven?
 
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jculp123180 said:
One of my NT profs said that we can't commit the sin about which Jesus was speaking then. In the context there were people attributing Christ's miricales to Beelzebub.

Today's occult revival means many say that now - as in 2 Thessalonians 2 @ 'many antichrists' & 'the spirit of antichrist'

Just a few mins to say that the most common evangelical answer to the OP question points out that the Bible says there is only one Saviour & no escape for any who refuse 'the glorious gospel'

This Word 4 Today @ conscience may help some readers:-

• How's your Conscience?
• Through the Bible in a Year - Readings for January 4
• Meditation 12/31 - 1/06: Ps 103:11-16 MSG



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How's your Conscience?

He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

John 8:7,9 KJV

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Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Titus 1:15-16 KJV

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Be men worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain. They must keep hold of the deep truths of the faith with a clear conscience.

1 Timothy 3:8,9 NIV

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Thanks be unto God for His wonderful gift:
Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God
is the object of our faith; the only faith
that saves is faith in Him.



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Through the Bible in a Year - Readings for January 4

January 4: Luke 7:1-17, Genesis 8-10, Psalm 4

Click Here for the complete schedule

Or Copy and paste this link into your browser:
http://www.arcamax.com/ttb-yr.html



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Meditation 12/31 - 1/06: Ps 103:11-16 MSG
So great is His Mercy and Love

As high as heaven is over the earth,
so strong is his love to those who fear him.
And as far as sunrise is from sunset,
he has separated us from our sins.

As parents feel for their children,
God feels for those who fear him.
He knows us inside and out,
keeps in mind that we're made of mud.

Men and women don't live very long;
like wildflowers they spring up and blossom,
But a storm snuffs them out just as quickly,
leaving nothing to show they were here.

Psalm 103:11-16 The Message



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God bless!

Ian
 
giftofGod said:
Is it that God wont forgive you if you have commited the unforgivable sin? or is it that you refuse to be forgiven?

My understanding is that it's not that Jesus death cannot forgive this sin, he came and died for all sin. It's that by comitting this sin, you are denyin the very path that leads to forgiveness.

And as stated above, I have been told this by many different pastors. Any person who is fearful that they have comitted the sin against the Holy Spirit most certainly hasn't because someone who has, wouldn't be concerned about their position. Having this concern is a sure sign of spiritual life and that the Holy Spirit is at work in you. And faith saves - weark or strong, large or small - because it looks to Christ's death and resurrection.
 
The sin of the blasphemy of the holy spirit is really the sin of total unbelief and giving credit to the devil for the Work THAT JESUS DID.
Since Jesus is not with us in flesh, I do not believe it be possible to commit this sin. Oh people like Mutz and PDOUG have come close but no dice.
 
oscar3 said:
The sin of the blasphemy of the holy spirit is really the sin of total unbelief and giving credit to the devil for the Work THAT JESUS DID.
Since Jesus is not with us in flesh, I do not believe it be possible to commit this sin. Oh people like Mutz and PDOUG have come close but no dice.

MODS - Please put a stop to this nonsense!
 
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