[_ Old Earth _] How scientists dupe the public

[Heidi]

The following is a newspaper article from 1937 describing the "missing link":

"Dec. 10. Humankind is about one million years old, judging from the age of a skull recently discovered on the Island of Java. The Carnegie Institution of Washington released its findings this morning on "Java Man", the oldest link between homo Sapiens and the apes...The skull cap had been badly cracked, and it was difficult to reassemble. Scientists surmised that a head-hunting enemy of this particular Java man may have chosen to feast on the brain, a head-hunting delicacy." : :

First of all, Java man has later been declared a hoax. Secondly, scientists admit that they find skulls and bones in pieces and reassemble them the way they want to. In fact, there's no way to prove that those pieces all came from the same skull. Nevertheless, they simply piece together anything they want to make a beast of their imaginations.

And thirdly, there's no way to prove how the skull became cracked. It could have been cracked by a blunt instrument, the person could have fallen or it could have been the result of predators. Yet in their eagerness to brainwash the public into believing their theory, the onlystory that scientists propose is that a head-hunting tribe ate the brains of Java man when that's the least plausible scenario. that's a biased comment because they're interested in showing that humans were once primitive animals who feast on other people's brains.

The above is what they call "science". All it is is conjecture, presuppositions, bias,and fantasy. And that is what they use to dupe the public because it works! ;-)

 

[Dunzo]

The following is a newspaper article from 1937 describing the "missing link":

"Dec. 10. Humankind is about one million years old, judging from the age of a skull recently discovered on the Island of Java. The Carnegie Institution of Washington released its findings this morning on "Java Man", the oldest link between homo Sapiens and the apes...The skull cap had been badly cracked, and it was difficult to reassemble. Scientists surmised that a head-hunting enemy of this particular Java man may have chosen to feast on the brain, a head-hunting delicacy." : :

I can't find a source for this. Source?

First of all, Java man has later been declared a hoax.

This is the first I'm hearing of it! Citation?

Secondly, scientists admit that they find skulls and bones in pieces and reassemble them the way they want to. In fact, there's no way to prove that those pieces all came from the same skull. Nevertheless, they simply piece together anything they want to make a beast of their imaginations.

Or maybe they were trying to figure out how it fit together best in the interests of scientific integrity. You must remember that any scientist who manages to disprove evolution would likely become world-famous.

And thirdly, there's no way to prove how the skull became cracked. It could have been cracked by a blunt instrument, the person could have fallen or it could have been the result of predators. Yet in their eagerness to brainwash the public into believing their theory, the onlystory that scientists propose is that a head-hunting tribe ate the brains of Java man when that's the least plausible scenario. that's a biased comment because they're interested in showing that humans were once primitive animals who feast on other people's brains.

I've never seen anything else claiming that savages ate his brain. Can you cite another source?

 

[John]

I will take care of the "java man" heidi.

 

[jwu]

First of all, Java man has later been declared a hoax.

That's news to me...reference please.

Secondly, scientists admit that they find skulls and bones in pieces and reassemble them the way they want to.

They fit them together in the way they fit, just like a jigsaw puzzle.

is there anything on this picture which you would have assembled differently?

In fact, there's no way to prove that those pieces all came from the same skull. Nevertheless, they simply piece together anything they want to make a beast of their imaginations.

Well, if they are found together and the fractures fit together like a jigsaw puzzle, then it is reasonable to say that they are part of the same skull, isn't it?

 

[John]

What about Nebraska man ? they made him from 1 tooth, and the tooth was not even human :crazyeyes:

 

[jwu]

What about Nebraska man ? they made him from 1 tooth, and the tooth was not even human :crazyeyes:

It was never accepted in the scientific community - and it were scientists who exposed it.

The fuss about it happened because of overly eager journalists, not scientists.

First scientist to examine the tooth:
"Until we secure more of the dentition, or parts of the skull or of the skeleton, we cannot be certain whether Hesperopithecus is a member of the Simiidae or of the Hominidae."
-Osborn, 1922

 

[John]

Good so i don't have to write about it then, lol

 

[Heidi]

First of all, Java man has later been declared a hoax.

That's news to me...reference please.


[quote:c2a4b] Secondly, scientists admit that they find skulls and bones in pieces and reassemble them the way they want to.

They fit them together in the way they fit, just like a jigsaw puzzle.

is there anything on this picture which you would have assembled differently?

In fact, there's no way to prove that those pieces all came from the same skull. Nevertheless, they simply piece together anything they want to make a beast of their imaginations.

Well, if they are found together and the fractures fit together like a jigsaw puzzle, then it is reasonable to say that they are part of the same skull, isn't it?[/quote:c2a4b]

No it's not because those skulls and bones could easily have been washed up together into the same basin by a flood. But since scientists don't look at all the evidence and only pass along what they want to pass along, then their processes are hardly, scientific. :roll:

 

[Jayls5]

The utter hypocrisy of talking about scientists duping the public over a COMPUTER, while enjoying MODERN MEDICINE, MODERN AUTOMOBILES, and much of the FOOD we eat is simply staggering.

It's even more ridiculous that examples used in this thread are misrepresented to be a scientific conspiracy even when facts show it is obviously a case where scientific skepticism existed from the start.

 

[John]

The utter hypocrisy of talking about scientists duping the public over a COMPUTER, while enjoying MODERN MEDICINE, MODERN AUTOMOBILES, and much of the FOOD we eat is simply staggering.

It's even more ridiculous that examples used in this thread are misrepresented to be a scientific conspiracy even when facts show it is obviously a case where scientific skepticism existed from the start.

We only dispute the science of evolution, not all science is wrong

 

[Jayls5]

We only dispute the science of evolution, not all science is wrong

Oh I see. You disagree with something ideologically, and that's why it's objectively wrong. Fun.

Do I get to play that game with Christianity? Or am I not allowed?

 

[freeway]

you think science does not hold back finding when they don't support their theory, come on look at school science or biology books man those books have more blind theory and assumptions. Whats even worst they feed it to children and adults. Most adults should be able to check into theory but for some reason choose not to, as for children, well?

 

[Heidi]

you think science does not hold back finding when they don't support their theory, come on look at school science or biology books man those books have more blind theory and assumptions. Whats even worst they feed it to children and adults. Most adults should be able to check into theory but for some reason choose not to, as for children, well?

And that's why they "update' their science books every year. ;-) Scientists are responsible for most of the myths of the 20th century. And that's how the term "mad scientist" was coined. :

 

[jwu]

No it's not because those skulls and bones could easily have been washed up together into the same basin by a flood. But since scientists don't look at all the evidence and only pass along what they want to pass along, then their processes are hardly, scientific. :roll:

LOL! Then why do they fit together like a jigsaw puzzle? Why aren't there duplicates or excess parts?

By the way, have you found out what makes the planet mars give off light yet?

 

[Heidi]

No it's not because those skulls and bones could easily have been washed up together into the same basin by a flood. But since scientists don't look at all the evidence and only pass along what they want to pass along, then their processes are hardly, scientific. :roll:

Then why do they fit together like a jigsaw puzzle? Why aren't there duplicates or excess parts?

By the way, have you found out what makes the planet mars give off light yet?

They don't fit together like a jigsaw puzzle which is precisely why scientists have made up new creatures! it's not hard to piece a skull together to make it look like no creature on earth. All one has to do is put pieces together that don't belong together which is exactly what scientists have done. Sorry. ;-)

 

[jwu]

They don't fit together like a jigsaw puzzle which is precisely why scientists have made up new creatures! it's not hard to piece a skull together to make it look like no creature on earth. All one has to do is put pieces together that don't belong together which is exactly what scientists have done. Sorry. ;-)

So i ask you again: Which part of the skull in this picture is out of place? Don't the parts fit together nicely? Do you seriously assert that the parts of this skull come from several skulls and were washed together by pure chance?

 

[Heidi]

They don't fit together like a jigsaw puzzle which is precisely why scientists have made up new creatures! it's not hard to piece a skull together to make it look like no creature on earth. All one has to do is put pieces together that don't belong together which is exactly what scientists have done. Sorry. ;-)

So i ask you again: Which part of the skull in this picture is out of place? Don't the parts fit together nicely? Do you seriously assert that the parts of this skull come from several skulls and were washed together by pure chance?

:o There are so many holes in that skull it looks like a sieve! :o In fact, rarely have I seen a skull that is pieced together in such an inexact fashion! : If that's what you call science then your theory doesn't hold water any more than that skull does! :

 

[John]

even if its pieced together 100%, the result would be either an ape creature or human.

 

[Heidi]

even if its pieced together 100%, the result would be either an ape creature or human.

That's right. And because most people see scientists as gods, they'll abandon their common sense and believe anything scientists say. : And that's the only reason this ridiculous theory has lasted this long. ;-)

 

[freeway]

No it's not because those skulls and bones could easily have been washed up together into the same basin by a flood. But since scientists don't look at all the evidence and only pass along what they want to pass along, then their processes are hardly, scientific. :roll:

LOL! Then why do they fit together like a jigsaw puzzle? Why aren't there duplicates or excess parts?

By the way, have you found out what makes the planet mars give off light yet?[/quote

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Now I'm not saying that every scientist is out to dope us over, or that every scientist is off his or her rocker, but some have been known to go the extra mile and arrange the so called evidence in order to boaster there finding. science and some scientist border on the edge of science fiction, and yes they have glued different parts of bones together to fit there ego... and if not for Christians or other scientist that really care about science nothing would ever be said.. not form them.